FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[reality check]

SJF Strategy:

Pray for rain.  Lots of rain.  And hope that MUC re-sodded their field.  Ignore fact that field is turf.  Lots of rain.  Lots of re-sodding.  Talk Joey Porter and Will Allen into dressing for the Cardinals Saturday.  Have a flex-off between Porter and DeRiggi.  More rain.  Allow Kornheiser into the booth for the NCAASports.com broadcast to answer ridiculous email questions.  More rain. Kick late field goal to win 3-0. 

[Toph]

SJF Strategy:

Pray for rain.  Lots of rain.  And hope that MUC re-sodded their field.  Ignore fact that field is turf.  Lots of rain.  Lots of re-sodding.  Talk Joey Porter and Will Allen into dressing for the Cardinals Saturday.  Have a flex-off between Porter and DeRiggi.  More rain.  Allow Kornheiser into the booth for the NCAASports.com broadcast to answer ridiculous email questions.  More rain. Kick late field goal to win 3-0. 

Only Pittsburghers would think it's a good idea to play four high school games on Friday, a college football game on Saturday, re-sod the field without taking out the old sod first due to time constraints, and play an NFL game on Monday night.  Even if there wasn't a torrential downpour, that field is still going to play like crap.  Who schedules 6 games on a grass field in 96 hours?  How very Pittsburgh of them.

[Pat Coleman]

Mmmm.... burghers....

[The_end_of_overlook]

Frank Rossi,
It is sad that anyone would come into a college to broadcast a game with a pre-determined attitude to magnify what could be negatives for a program. And I hope you notice I used the phrase: "what could be negatives ". Because one of them, which I will call the Garcon Theory, is all hearsay. Like I had mentioned a week or two ago, NO ONE OTHER THAN MR. GARCON knows why he is at Mount and how he made the decision to attend MUC. The other issue you mention is the possibility of a couple negative fans from Mount. With this issue I hope you go to every game you broadcast with a pair of binoculars, not to watch the game, but to view all sections of seating in every stadium. That way if any fan gets a little rowdy or upset you can point them out over the air so the entire group of listeners know that Mount Union does have a couple of negatives about it. Do not concern yourself with the class of the coaches, players, and 98% of the fans (Forgive me with my percentage; it may be off by percent or two).

I don not wish harm upon anyone, but i hope because of your ignorance know one neither watches nor listens to your broadcast. And with my ignorance I will admit I don't even know what it is, TV or radio. But here is the big part; I will probably not even attempt to find out, due solely to your attitude.

[Pat Coleman]

Frank Rossi,
It is sad that anyone would come into a college to broadcast a game with a pre-determined attitude to magnify what could be negatives for a program. And I hope you notice I used the phrase: "what could be negatives ". Because one of them, which I will call the Garcon Theory, is all hearsay. Like I had mentioned a week or two ago, NO ONE OTHER THAN MR. GARCON knows why he is at Mount and how he made the decision to attend MUC. The other issue you mention is the possibility of a couple negative fans from Mount. With this issue I hope you go to every game you broadcast with a pair of binoculars, not to watch the game, but to view all sections of seating in every stadium. That way if any fan gets a little rowdy or upset you can point them out over the air so the entire group of listeners know that Mount Union does have a couple of negatives about it. Do not concern yourself with the class of the coaches, players, and 98% of the fans (Forgive me with my percentage; it may be off by percent or two).

I don not wish harm upon anyone, but i hope because of your ignorance know one neither watches nor listens to your broadcast. And with my ignorance I will admit I don't even know what it is, TV or radio. But here is the big part; I will probably not even attempt to find out, due solely to your attitude.

Let's relax and not jump off the deep end here. Talk about overreacting.

[Frank Rossi]

Frank Rossi,
It is sad that anyone would come into a college to broadcast a game with a pre-determined attitude to magnify what could be negatives for a program. And I hope you notice I used the phrase: "what could be negatives ". Because one of them, which I will call the Garcon Theory, is all hearsay. Like I had mentioned a week or two ago, NO ONE OTHER THAN MR. GARCON knows why he is at Mount and how he made the decision to attend MUC. The other issue you mention is the possibility of a couple negative fans from Mount. With this issue I hope you go to every game you broadcast with a pair of binoculars, not to watch the game, but to view all sections of seating in every stadium. That way if any fan gets a little rowdy or upset you can point them out over the air so the entire group of listeners know that Mount Union does have a couple of negatives about it. Do not concern yourself with the class of the coaches, players, and 98% of the fans (Forgive me with my percentage; it may be off by percent or two).

I don not wish harm upon anyone, but i hope because of your ignorance know one neither watches nor listens to your broadcast. And with my ignorance I will admit I don't even know what it is, TV or radio. But here is the big part; I will probably not even attempt to find out, due solely to your attitude.

Let's relax and not jump off the deep end here. Talk about overreacting.

More like, talk about not reading the entire conversation that transpired in the first place. 

And all I can say to everyone here is to take a peak at the NJAC board to see some of the reactions from Saturday.  There appears to be a big difference of opinion about just how bad the issue of the fan reactions was. 

[joelmama]

If a player from TCNJ flipped off the fans (I was sitting on that side of the stadium but didn't see any flipping off),  Then the fans at that point in my opinion have the right to give him back a little bit.  I too saw a couple of TCNJ players go towards the stands (and actually close to the fence) shouting at the fans.  I didn't hear what either side said but players need to play and not worry about what is going on behind them.  The coaches should be aware enough to stop this from happening too.  I am not dcondoning what any fans may have said (how could I sionce I didn't hear it) but TCNJ players should have been worried about what was going on between the lines , refraining from the late hits out of bounds rather than worry about the fans.

[Frank Rossi]

If a player from TCNJ flipped off the fans (I was sitting on that side of the stadium but didn't see any flipping off),  Then the fans at that point in my opinion have the right to give him back a little bit.  I too saw a couple of TCNJ players go towards the stands (and actually close to the fence) shouting at the fans.  I didn't hear what either side said but players need to play and not worry about what is going on behind them.  The coaches should be aware enough to stop this from happening too.  I am not dcondoning what any fans may have said (how could I sionce I didn't hear it) but TCNJ players should have been worried about what was going on between the lines , refraining from the late hits out of bounds rather than worry about the fans.

Agreed 100%.

[lewdogg11]

If a player from TCNJ flipped off the fans (I was sitting on that side of the stadium but didn't see any flipping off),  Then the fans at that point in my opinion have the right to give him back a little bit.  I too saw a couple of TCNJ players go towards the stands (and actually close to the fence) shouting at the fans.  I didn't hear what either side said but players need to play and not worry about what is going on behind them.  The coaches should be aware enough to stop this from happening too.  I am not dcondoning what any fans may have said (how could I sionce I didn't hear it) but TCNJ players should have been worried about what was going on between the lines , refraining from the late hits out of bounds rather than worry about the fans.

Agreed 100%.

I think, to solve this problem, players should be allowed to fight the fans after the games, on certain occasions, as long as the numbers are even on both sides.  Most of these drunken, obnoxious fans, especially when sitting behind the bench of the opposing team, are looking for a reaction.  After the game, they should wheel in the steel cage, and let players have at it...however, most of the tough guy fans would dissapear by then.  It sounds like this crowd at MUC in the opposing stands need a Miami Hurricane-esque brawl to break out and catch a few slinging helmets in the mouth...maybe that'll work?

While not very impressive on the field, i'll take the NJ guys off the field any day...especially with what they have stacked up in the trunk of their IROC-Z...

[joelmama]

"There's no doubt that an agent-type helped him choreograph his moves in a way to give him an honest chance at the draft"

Frank - that was your exact quote.  I don't know how anyone would assume you meant "advisor" when using those words.  As Pat posted on the E8 board, I think the way Garcon ended up at Mount doesn't show any agent direction at all. 

All that being said, I think Garcon will have some questions attached to him (other than the usual D-III issues) regarding his health.  I would wonder if the poking and prodding by the scouts/teams/etc...will end up hurting him in any way.

Ric - can you put together a play-off only "tale of the tape"?  It would be interesting to see how Mount and SJF compare in their two playoff games.  I think that can be a better indication of how teams are playing, and how they match up.  I know....I know.....you are BUSY!   

But remember.......if not you.....who?   

And as the story Pat posted goes on to say, Pierre doesn't reveal exactly how he ended up at Mount Union, except to say he saw them play on TV.  Your selective quoting is getting interesting, but go ahead and keep soundbyting.

There's a difference between saying "agent" and "agent-type" -- it's a much broader category.  And as I said, I have no problem with him seeking experienced counsel on an issue like that if he was hoping to take his career to the next step; it's obvious he has the talent for it.

I think Frank knows that Garcon isnt breaking NCAA rules and hiring an agent.  I understood that the implication is that he had an advisor or friend that helped him get to MUC and not a paid agent.

Then he should have used advisor.  If that is what he truly meant to say.  It is very clear that a number of Eastern fans do not like Pierre and hold some form of resentment against his leaving Norwich to come to MUC.

[Ric]

Frank you said "if I even sense."

Those were your words and it is what upset me.  As a broadcaster, I hope you think of what you want to say before blurting it out better than you do on here.  Because on these boards it seems you don't do that.  You have spent the last day and a half explaining what you meant to say and what the words you typed actually meant.  I hope you understand what I am saying here.

Saying, "if I even sense" means you don't have to actually see it or have it be fact but you have to think it may be happening.  Sorry, that is bad journalism. Be careful what you say.

On another note, I agree I have seen you make comments on the East board to the fact you hope Fisher wins on Saturday.  That's fine, you're entitled to that.  But I wish, since you've made it perfectly clear all week you're doing the national broadcast, that you would refrain from saying that, or from letting everyone know you're doing the broadcast.

Because those listening see the game through your eyes.  And if you're slanted one way or the other, it's not your fault, but a person just doesn't see the game the same way.

I guess I just don't see why you have said some of the things you've said this week and I hope you see the mistake you've made because of how you've had to spend time defending yourself.

This is nothing personal.  But I don't get on here every chance I get and talk about how I'm broadcasting this or broadcasting that.  A lot of people here know me and know who I am, but, and Pat can attest to this I'm sure, I post a lot less frequently now than I did years ago. And part of the reason for that is I don't want to get mixed up in what is said on here.

[Frank Rossi]

"There's no doubt that an agent-type helped him choreograph his moves in a way to give him an honest chance at the draft"

Frank - that was your exact quote.  I don't know how anyone would assume you meant "advisor" when using those words.  As Pat posted on the E8 board, I think the way Garcon ended up at Mount doesn't show any agent direction at all. 

All that being said, I think Garcon will have some questions attached to him (other than the usual D-III issues) regarding his health.  I would wonder if the poking and prodding by the scouts/teams/etc...will end up hurting him in any way.

Ric - can you put together a play-off only "tale of the tape"?  It would be interesting to see how Mount and SJF compare in their two playoff games.  I think that can be a better indication of how teams are playing, and how they match up.  I know....I know.....you are BUSY!   

But remember.......if not you.....who?   

And as the story Pat posted goes on to say, Pierre doesn't reveal exactly how he ended up at Mount Union, except to say he saw them play on TV.  Your selective quoting is getting interesting, but go ahead and keep soundbyting.

There's a difference between saying "agent" and "agent-type" -- it's a much broader category.  And as I said, I have no problem with him seeking experienced counsel on an issue like that if he was hoping to take his career to the next step; it's obvious he has the talent for it.

I think Frank knows that Garcon isnt breaking NCAA rules and hiring an agent.  I understood that the implication is that he had an advisor or friend that helped him get to MUC and not a paid agent.

Then he should have used advisor.  If that is what he truly meant to say.  It is very clear that a number of Eastern fans do not like Pierre and hold some form of resentment against his leaving Norwich to come to MUC.

If I had posted the comments in here, maybe I would have used "advisor" since everybody seems a little more touchy in here about their territory than the folks in the E8.  I apologize for any mis-construction of that one word, although, I don't apologize for the intent of the comments -- which was a balanced discussion about Garcon's track to the NFL in retrospect.  I think it's an interesting discussion for anyone trying to make a similar leap to understand, and JU was making some good points on the other side of the discussion.  I encourage you all to read that discussion to understand it better.

Union College and Norwich have no relationship whatsoever.  Thus, I have no preconceived resentment or current resentment toward Garcon -- why would I?  I simply pointed out that he showboated a little much toward the end of the Stagg Bowl, but, hey, he did the job he needed to to for his team to win last year.  I was actually happy to see him listed as the 37th top WR last night on the website I found -- it's good for all of D3 football to have some level of exposure like that.  

[Ric]

Yes, I saw the flip-off from the pressbox.  It was after the first incident and after the kid came off the field he went right back to the fans again.  That's why I said earlier I was surprised by the lack of attention to it from the TCNJ coaching staff.

[Ric]

Oh, and Frank, I saw the flip-off and never mentioned it on the air.  Why? Because what purpose would it serve?

[Ric]

BTW, Tale of the Tape is up and audio highlights from Saturday's game will be up late tonight or tomorrow, for those that care.

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