FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[reality check]

Surprised that SJF only has four players from outside of the state of NY.  (One is a freshman from Westlake, OH.)

Seems unusual for a Catholic university to have so few out-of-staters.  JCU has 30+ out-of-state kids.  Catholic has even more than JCU.  Even MSJ has 20+.  SJU has about 25 as well.

Does anyone from SJF want to share their thoughts on this matter?

[reality check]

It's not just the OAC board, but all the boards seem to be slow this week...even those boards with teams still in the hunt.  It's pretty sad when I'm starting to become one of the more regular posters!

Well, reality check threatened a beatdown to any broadcaster that dared to breathe inside the PPs this week...so there went half the usual suspects...Uh oh, he saw me breathing in here...GOTTA GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You continue to disappoint me Frank.  I really can't believe the way you've handled yourself this week given your role on Saturday.

[fredsdriveinn]

Didn't Micheli have a massive game in the Stagg the very next week? Must be he was on double secret probation and wasn't allowed to come in & throw that day vs. Fisher.

Well, if I could win without it and spring it on UW-Whitewater the next week, that's what I would've done as a coach.

So the gameplan was not to pass during the Fisher game, so in the Stagg Whitewater would never see it coming.

UW-W Defensive Coordinator after watching game film:
"Man, MUC ran almost every play in the Fisher game - no way they'll throw it against us"

Exactly.  Go back and watch the Stagg Bowl again.  The announcers constantly referred to Jorris as the passing QB and Micheli as the running QB. EVERYONE thought that.  The announcers were shocked with Micheli's passing ability and he eventually went on to set the Stagg Bowl accuracy record.  WWW was obviously suprised.

[SJFF82]

Surprised that SJF only has four players from outside of the state of NY.  (One is a freshman from Westlake, OH.)

Seems unusual for a Catholic university to have so few out-of-staters.  JCU has 30+ out-of-state kids.  Catholic has even more than JCU.  Even MSJ has 20+.  SJU has about 25 as well.

Does anyone from SJF want to share their thoughts on this matter?

I think its just a recruiting thing so to speak, meaning that the school or coaching staff just doesnt recruit out of state.  It seems that most 'local' kids (meaning those from the Rochester-Buffalo-Syracuse triangle) stay local and spread out between the Fishers, Ithacas etc...of the New York d3 schools.

[Frank Rossi]

RC, dude, relax.  It was a joke -- and under the circumstances, a little levity never hurt anyone.

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To answer your question, regarding SJF's out-of-state population, I think we can look at a couple things off the bat.  First, here's their W/L records from the past nine seasons:

1999 (1-8 IND)
2000 (1-9 IND)
2001 (3-7 IND)
2002 (6-4, 2-2 E8)
2003 (8-3, 3-1 E8)
2004 (10-2, 5-1 E8)
2005 (8-3, 4-2 E8)
2006 (12-2, 5-1 E8)
2007 (11-1, 5-1 E8)

From this, you can see that their football program didn't start catching real national attention until about 2004.  I've seen a real lag time over the last decade of watching these sorts of things play out between national exposure and diversity in geographic player base.  My guess is that it will change as the SJF program continues to move forward.

Second, location seems to matter a bit.  Rochester's airport has only recently become really more accessible through the inclusion of it in the JetBlue routes.  Syracuse and Buffalo weren't as close, and probably this turned a lot of prospective out-of-staters off.  

Third, the school's tradition to fund its athletics programs is still a work in progress from what I've seen and heard.  The facilities are nice, don't get me wrong.  However, I've gotten the feeling over the last couple years that the recruiting budget is lagging a little.  So, credit Vosburgh for doing a great job of pulling together a mostly NY cast to win a lion's share of SJF's games over the last few years.  The school seems to be even struggling to get a fan bus together -- something that appears to have been an afterthought as their Thanksgiving break concluded -- and their on-campus TV guys were unsure if they'd have the funding to get to Alliance this weekend to tape the game.  That might show that budgeting has not embraced the football team quite yet.

These things are always a work in progress, so I'd expect the national exposure to broaden the school's recruiting reach through more inquiries from HS students outside NY and from the coaches' ability to travel to other states and drum up interest.  It's a good question, though, and probably one that needs to be examined more closely by all involved.

[PghRaider]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.   Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise.  

[JQV]

You continue to disappoint me Frank.  I really can't believe the way you've handled yourself this week given your role on Saturday.

Yes Frank, I too am disappointed that you would take your historic role in recording this seminal event in American history so lightly.

For your reference, here is a picture of the MUC Broadcast team preparing for their broadcast.  



Such serious journalism cannot be taken so lightly.

[Frank Rossi]

You continue to disappoint me Frank.  I really can't believe the way you've handled yourself this week given your role on Saturday.

Yes Frank, I too am disappointed that you would take your historic role in recording this seminal event in American history so lightly.

For your reference, here is a picture of the MUC Broadcast team preparing for their broadcast.  



Such serious journalism cannot be taken so lightly.

That would explain the break-in at my apartment last night...I'VE BEEN BUGGED!  Where's Deepthroat when you need h...er...er?

[Toph]

Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise. 

Most ridiculous statement of the year?  Mount will continue to dominate until they decide they don't want to dominate anymore.

Ri-ight.

[Jonny Utah]

Surprised that SJF only has four players from outside of the state of NY.  (One is a freshman from Westlake, OH.)

Seems unusual for a Catholic university to have so few out-of-staters.  JCU has 30+ out-of-state kids.  Catholic has even more than JCU.  Even MSJ has 20+.  SJU has about 25 as well.

Does anyone from SJF want to share their thoughts on this matter?

I think JCU has always had more of a national (regionally anyway) name for Catholic High Schools.  And Catholic I know gets a lot of students from all over the country.  SJF is still very small and more local.

Plus JCU and MSJ are in cities that might attract more out of state students.

[Jonny Utah]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.   Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise.  

Good Post.

Final score of the Stagg Bowl:

Mt. Union 3
Mt. Union 0

What is the score of the preseason purple/white scrimmage?
Can Mt. Union lose to themselves?

[Frank Rossi]

Final score of the Stagg Bowl:

Mt. Union 3
Mt. Union 0

Pat and KMac might need Tony K in the booth for that one.

[PghRaider]

depends what side of the ball is does Ditka play?

if on O Mount-O 200
           Mount-D 0

if on D Mount-D 49
        2 qb sacks forced fumbles tds, 3 blocked punts returned for tds, and 2 ints for tds and they pulled Ditka after the first 10 plays.

           Mount-O-0   

[Knightstalker]

Well I always read this board espically around this time of year but I never post because I get a kick out of others outside the OAC thinking they are better and they will be the ones to knock Mount off.   Lets face it Mount is the only team that can knock Mount off.  They have the BEST team to possibally ever come out of that school.  As a former player thats hard to admit being I played on 5 great teams but this team is dominating everyone in all the stat sheets.  Mount can beat who ever, when ever, by as many as they wish week in and week out. (DIII)  If they wanted to beat every team by 50 LK would call the game that way.  Mount has been so great on the ground throughout the years that a 21pt lead is almost like being ahead 50-0.  Since their D has given up a grand total of 49pts all year a game within 21 (which I dont think is close some do) if Mount scores 4 times its over.  Since teams have had trouble from keeping Mount out of the endzone 7 times a game it looks like Mount wins the Stagg by 20 or more.  The talk about Fisher Rbs running for a 100 or more is almost comical.  The Mount D has developed a "swagger" like the U of old.  When a team scores they take it as an insult and I know allowing a TEAM to run for a 100 would cause them to lose sleep.  So to all you Fisher fans good job making it this far see you in the opener next year.  Mount is and will be the most  DOMINANT program that we ever see and will stay that way untill they decide otherwise.  

That is because Mount never played Ditka!   

[Jonny Utah]

Who would win?

  VS.