FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[joelmama]

If this whole discussion had been about doing good things for the players and the school then it would have never happened and the people that worship coach "I'll learn your name by your junior year" wouldn't have as much a reason to turn what was once a reasonable thread into a idiotic dick-measuring contest, mostly between themselves.

[/quote]I assume you are talking about LK here?  If so you haven't got a clue to what he is about.

[Small but Slow]

Of course, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.  That's the reason he's being abused so badly and unable to defend himself.

[reality check]

It appears for all the talk of Pierre's numbers at the combine, not much has been said about his receiving skills.  I found my way to a Vikings site and there's one Vikings poster with Purple Raider ties that has been touting Pierre's combine performance but many of the Vikings fans have been ripping Garcon both based on his small-school status to his (apparently) not so impressive receiving period at the combine.  One Viking fan, who supposedly played for Gags at SJU, has characterized DIII football as slow-motion and glorified flag football.  I don't know what bothers me more; the fact that this supposed DIII alum is painting such a negative picture or the fact that Vikings fans think their receivers corps is too good for a long-shot DIII kid like Pierre.  Has anyone watched a Vikings game?  You could argue that their current crop of receivers would make flag football playing DIII'ers look like all-pros.


All that said, while Pierre's workout numbers were quite respectable, if it is indeed true that he dropped a lot of balls he should have caught, that can't help his cause.

[frank uible]

If true, then on its face it is very damaging. The NFL assessors of talent are looking for merely one major flaw so that they can strike a DIIIer off their lists.

[Small but Slow]

I see the same ignorant opinions of DIII football from people around here.  A coach told me the other day that he believes any one who played high school football in FL can play DIII.  My response was that there were schools where these boys could be on the team and maybe even see the field, but they wouldn't be at the more competitive schools. 

If Pierre caught some eyes with his speed, agility, and strength, someone will give him a shot as a return man.  What's the possibility of him moving over to CB?  He's got a cocky and nasty attitude.  Can he cover?

[frank uible]

The NFL is not in business because it has been ignorant. There is logic to its approach - namely, DIIIers have not been tested by the relatively high level of competition which exists in DIA, and therefore as a matter of economy of decision making DIIIers should not get the same benefit of doubt that DIAers do.

[Knightstalker]

Realistically Garcon could possibly get drafted at the end of the draft.  He is more likely to get noticed if he gets into a camp as a free agent or plays Arena ball.  It sounds like he could possibly be a punt and kickoff coverage team gunner, especially if he can tackle.

[Ric]

Spence a lot of what you are saying is ignorant and inexcusable. You're now making crap up as you go and have become a fool. If you'd get your head out of your ass long enough to take notice, you'd realize all you're doing by taking immature, inaccurate and unintelligent pot shots at other posters and other schools is making them come back with shots at Marietta.

Marietta isn't the problem here, you are. Just shut the hell up and do as you promised and go away.

Is there anyone else on this planet that has watched just one game of any team sport and has the opinion that the team and/or one of its players would not at all benefit the following season by playing this year? Anyone? How ridiculous to even try to argue such a thing.

The only coach I can think of that doesn't think about tomorrow today is one that doesn't plan on being around tomorrow. Maybe you should think about the fact that the guy you are so faithfully defending may have done what he did because he didn't plan on being back the following year. Maybe he already knew he was getting out of dodge. Maybe he looked at Marietta as a stepping stone. Maybe something fell through and he had to wait another year? Maybe, maybe not.

But you're so wrapped up in your own ego and agenda that you don't have the wherewithal to step back for once and just shut up about something when you are so clearly wrong. My youngest son has more smarts than you. By keeping up with this silly argument you have created a prejudice against yourself and your school and you don't even see it.

Please, for everyone's sake, wake up! You've become the laughing stock of this board.

[HScoach]

Please, for everyone's sake, wake up! You've become the laughing stock of this board.

Ric,  I actually like having Spence around.  He makes me look smarter.

[Small but Slow]

Frank -
I 'm not accusing the NFL of ignorance, just the posters on the Vikings message board that were referred to yesterday.  Especially, the alleged comments of an alleged former SJU player that DIII is flag football.  Anyone who thinks any DIII team can compete athletically with a DI or I-AA team is fooling himself.  The point of my statement is that many people who know nothing about DIII athletics have misguided opinions of the quality of athletes.  They are not all DI caliber athletes, but most of them are very good athletes, most of whom, were either an inch or two too short, a tenth or two too slow, or too light to be considered for an athletic scholarship.  I just get frustrated with the lack of respect DIII receives from people who could not have competed at that level, but believe they are above it.  Sorry if I rambled.

[usee]

Please, for everyone's sake, wake up! You've become the laughing stock of this board.

Ric,  I actually like having Spence around.  He makes me look smarter.

Just catching up on the OAC board afte too long. I will make one observation based on what I have read the past 10 pages or so:

I wish I had someone in my life who loved me as much as Spence loves himself.

[Small but Slow]

What are the dates for spring practice?

[formerd3db]

Frank -
I 'm not accusing the NFL of ignorance, just the posters on the Vikings message board that were referred to yesterday.  Especially, the alleged comments of an alleged former SJU player that DIII is flag football.  Anyone who thinks any DIII team can compete athletically with a DI or I-AA team is fooling himself.  The point of my statement is that many people who know nothing about DIII athletics have misguided opinions of the quality of athletes.  They are not all DI caliber athletes, but most of them are very good athletes, most of whom, were either an inch or two too short, a tenth or two too slow, or too light to be considered for an athletic scholarship.  I just get frustrated with the lack of respect DIII receives from people who could not have competed at that level, but believe they are above it.  Sorry if I rambled.

small but slow:

Clarification please.  Are you saying that any DIII team is not able to compete with any DIAA team (ugh, I mean the now Football Championship Subdivision ), whether non-scholarship or scholarship DIAA) at any time?  I agree with you that the majority of the time, that is not possible.  However, to say that it would never happen that a very, very good DIII team couldn't ever pull an upset, I think is unrealistic.  It could happen (again, extremely rare) - look at Montana State and Appl State in similar situations (albeit they are upper levels, the scenario "theory" is the same ).  Just MO.

[purple]

 Actually Spence;D3 football is a great vehicle for increased male enrollment.Since we are talking very expensive private schools, a college President who has a guy like Coach Siriani attracting good kids to WJU has a valuable asset.Not to mention the fact these guys all turn pro,in something ,and pump money and students back into the school.Some because they are former football players,and like to brag,like me.I dont believe you were referring to LK, as anybody who knows him will tell you he plays the guy who earns the job in practice.Period.It's what makes the Raiders great.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Stop trying to post to Spence.  He has finally stayed away from this board as promised...