FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Three are (I think):
Dean Paul
Mike Hallet
Jeff Filkovski

Although you would really classify at least two of them from the MTU tree, not the TMC tree...

Did they all work under Paul?

Hallet did.  Fikovski was a QB coach there for one year, but I don't know if it was under Paul or Hallett.

EDIT:
From the Heidleberg Football Website:
"Filkovski was the quarterbacks coach and the passing game coordinator for Hallett and Thomas More College in 2006."

He worked under Hallett at Thomas More. 

kirasdad,

I think this is more of a Thomas More tree because DP and MH both got their D3 starts at Thomas More.  But they are definitely in the MUC/Kehres coaching tree also.  I'm sure you still see "Roll Pass" that Ballard, Borchert, Smeck, et all ran..

I know, I edited my post above...

After looking at the bios for Hallet and Paul I was surprised to discover that neither of them had done any coaching at MTU so I guess that I will agree with you on the Thomas Moore Tree....

[seventiesraider]

The most exciting OAC football news in today's Akron Beacon Journal is a picture of former standout QB Dan Larlham in a charity tricycle race. Sadly, Dan who was last year's winner took a spill and finished last.

WHEN DOES SPRING BALL START?

[Small but Slow]

Is the news that Pryor committed to OSU as big a story in the Buckeye state as it seems to be to Ohioans now living out of state?  At least it's been big news for Ohio natives who live around here. 

[Spence]

Is the news that Pryor committed to OSU as big a story in the Buckeye state as it seems to be to Ohioans now living out of state?  At least it's been big news for Ohio natives who live around here. 

I know one thing, it's not on topic for this board.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Is the news that Pryor committed to OSU as big a story in the Buckeye state as it seems to be to Ohioans now living out of state?  At least it's been big news for Ohio natives who live around here. 

A guy I teach with (from the Cincinnati area) was pretty excited about it.

[HScoach]

Is the news that Pryor committed to OSU as big a story in the Buckeye state as it seems to be to Ohioans now living out of state?  At least it's been big news for Ohio natives who live around here. 

I was hoping the whole "I need more time" thing was so he could visit Mount.  Oh well.


Yes, the Pryor saga has been big news in Akron.  The changable billboard on I-77 north of town had the announcement within minutes of the press conference.  I know because I was driving back from meeting in Cleveland listening to ESPN Radio talk about him when I drove by and saw the billboard cycle thru the crappy Ohio weather forecast and "Pryor chooses Buckeyes".

[seventiesraider]

Sorry, I saw this kid's "Press Conference" and remembered why I'm on the D3 website.


For all the luck OSU has had with highly touted high school players, I'd think they would be gun shy of this kid. Just a "little" full of himself.

Probably another chapter in the saga of disciplinary problems under Jim Tressel

[JK]

Sorry, I saw this kid's "Press Conference" and remembered why I'm on the D3 website.


For all the luck OSU has had with highly touted high school players, I'd think they would be gun shy of this kid. Just a "little" full of himself.

Probably another chapter in the saga of disciplinary problems under Jim Tressel

Seventies,

That's not quite fair.  Jim Tressel runs as clean a program as anyone in D1.  Plus, he is an outstanding guy who is very true to his D3 roots.  Sure, he has had some kids get in trouble (some much more serious than others) but it way better than when Cooper was there, and it is because Coach tries to treat his kids "like men" (his words) and allows them to make mistakes.  If they make serious enough ones (Clarett, Iriazarry, etc) they are gone.  Otherwise they are disciplined.  The difference between OSU and MUC is the size of the microscope (and 5 national titles) 


As for the Pryor kid, let's not jump to conclusions.  Everything I have heard is that he is a good kid with good grades from a good family.  He is a D1 talent in hoops too and he wanted to concentrate on that instead of get rolled up into National signing day a month ago.  Now that basketball is over (he won a PA state title in that too), he felt he had time to make a decision and he did.

Now back to your regularly scheduled D3 programming (although, being the offseason, there isn't a lot of it to go around)...

[reality check]

Pryor seems like a good kid to me as well all things considered.  He handled himself well during the Army All-Star game and even impressed me to some degree with his answers and so forth.  As I recall, seventies, you don't seem to care too much for Tressel.  I guess I will have to disagree with you there and with your feelings about D-I athletes/programs.  I think you can be a fan of both D-I and D-III and you can like them for different reasons.  I will always be a Buckeye fan just as I will always be a Polar Bear fan and I won't feel bad for liking both programs and levels respectively.

For someone who loves Pierre Garcon, I find your last post a bit hypocritical.  You're absolutely entitled to your opinions here but you're already painting the kid as egomaniacal and a disciplinary problem.  That's just not fair.

I don't think it would make any sense to be gun-shy about the top QB prospect in the country if you coach the Ohio State Buckeyes.  Pryor hasn't been a thug or malcontent in his high school days and certainly has a cleaner and more polished resume than many of the lesser known kids that have made their way with the scarlet and gray.  If he's to be gun-shy about kids like Pryor, then the Buckeyes might as well come back to the OAC since they never officially left.

[Spence]

I don't think it would make any sense to be gun-shy about the top QB prospect in the country if you coach the Ohio State Buckeyes.  Pryor hasn't been a thug or malcontent in his high school days and certainly has a cleaner and more polished resume than many of the lesser known kids that have made their way with the scarlet and gray.  If he's to be gun-shy about kids like Pryor, then the Buckeyes might as well come back to the OAC since they never officially left.

I guess getting arrested at Kennywood for refusing to leave after getting into a fight, getting into a fight after a playoff basketball game and threatening to go into the stands after some hecklers is perfectly acceptable behavior.

[frank uible]

Every coach in DIA would (if he had the chance) hold his nose and take Pryor.

[reality check]

Spence

We all know you know everything about everything.  I really love how you most recently stated that discussion of Pryor was off-topic for the board but you still had to chime in with your own trivial negativity.  I'm sure you'll have something else to respond with since you know we wait with baited breath for you to post already. 

Could you tell us more about Marietta's 5 year plan or library blueprints or anatomy or something?  I can't wait.

(I smited you at first but I remembered your karmic desires.  Luckily I found out while you can't smite someone twice in 24 hours, you can reverse karma and applaud after smiting to get a two-point swing.  This might be the first thing you have ever directly or indirectly contributed to the board IMO.  Have a great holiday weekend.)

[HScoach]

Pryor seems like a good kid to me as well all things considered.  He handled himself well during the Army All-Star game and even impressed me to some degree with his answers and so forth.  As I recall, seventies, you don't seem to care too much for Tressel.  I guess I will have to disagree with you there and with your feelings about D-I athletes/programs.  I think you can be a fan of both D-I and D-III and you can like them for different reasons.  I will always be a Buckeye fan just as I will always be a Polar Bear fan and I won't feel bad for liking both programs and levels respectively.

For someone who loves Pierre Garcon, I find your last post a bit hypocritical.  You're absolutely entitled to your opinions here but you're already painting the kid as egomaniacal and a disciplinary problem.  That's just not fair.

I don't think it would make any sense to be gun-shy about the top QB prospect in the country if you coach the Ohio State Buckeyes.  Pryor hasn't been a thug or malcontent in his high school days and certainly has a cleaner and more polished resume than many of the lesser known kids that have made their way with the scarlet and gray.  If he's to be gun-shy about kids like Pryor, then the Buckeyes might as well come back to the OAC since they never officially left.

I agree with this post 100%.  Nothing in Pryor's past is a big enough red flag to avoid taking the #1 prospect in the nation.  He's not Mother Teresa, but very few kids with as much attention as him would be either.  If we're going to brand kids and exclude them from D1 consideration simply because they were in a fight at an amusement park and got pissy with hecklers at a basketball game, then it's a good thing I wasn't a D1 athlete or I'd never have gotten in.  Jamario O'Neal is the kid on the OSU roster that I thought would be trouble based on his history.

Every D3 school has kids that cause trouble or come from questionable backgrounds too.  The difference is the national (or even local) media doesn't mention it. 

[reality check]

hscoach

And OSU has had kids that were model citizens as prep athletes that turned into trouble once they got there.  I went to high school with an OSU recruit and he was squeaky clean in high school, made some questionable decisions at Ohio State and found himself on the outside looking in and was kicked off the team.  It was a kid making a dumb decision and costing himself big-time.  Some things can't be forecasted.

[runyr]

Surveying the draft mags, I found one that mentions Pierre Garcon.  Excerpt follows:

Lindy's Pro Football Draft – Wide Receivers (40 ranked)
39. Pierre Garcon, Mount Union
6-0, 205  40 time: 4.46  7th round
Positives: Better size than most small-school prospects.  Has long limbs.  Accelerates smoothly and is strong running after the catch. Blew by small-school defenders. Used on bubble screens and shallow crosses to get him more touches. Was a deep threat and returned kickoffs at Mount Union. Shows a burst to hit the hole on returns.

Negatives: Has to prove he's mentally and physically ready for the NFL. Separating from NFL defensive backs will be a challenge. Dances a bit too much on returns.

In Our View: A capable Division III star likely to be on the radar in the sixth or seventh round. He's a better all-around receiver than Rams' 2007 seventh-round pick Derek Stanley (Wisconsin-Whitewater), and has better size and more than adequate speed.