FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[SaintsFAN]

Put him on the bench, wrap him in cotton batten and save him for a rainy day.

exactly... its football, people!!  They play soccer in the Spring and late Summer.

As Herm Edwards says... you play to win the game.  I think some of you guys forget (not the guys I've met) that MUC CAN lose a game -- very easily.  LK's job is to get the best 11 on the field.  If thats CS at QB during the early part of the season, what does LK need to do, to earn your trust?  

I think I'd trust the guy.. he won the National Title, I think recently 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

What percentage of DIII FB players actually make it in the NFL?  VERY LOW I am sure.  Play Cecil where he best helps the team and let the chips fall where they may.

[beenhit2hard]

Put him on the bench, wrap him in cotton batten and save him for a rainy day.

exactly... its football, people!!  They play soccer in the Spring and late Summer.

As Herm Edwards says... you play to win the game.  I think some of you guys forget (not the guys I've met) that MUC CAN lose a game -- very easily.  LK's job is to get the best 11 on the field.  If thats CS at QB during the early part of the season, what does LK need to do, to earn your trust?  

I think I'd trust the guy.. he won the National Title, I think recently 

My comments about Cecil were made fom conversations with a certain Coach who has to make that decision as who to play at qb

[raiderguy]

Pat,
There were no quotes from LK in the article to confirm Cecil was in the mix for the QB position. So if that was in the rough draft it fell on the floor. If it falls into the category of the best 11 will play I would still think Cecil's best position is at WR unless they don't have anyone that can get him the ball. We won't really know that till some of these new QB prospects begin to practice. However I do not remember at any time where LK had a freshman QB starting or really in the early mix.

I believe Cecil is just coming into his JR year....Hurray! if that is the case.

[frank uible]

Lower than very low.  It is doubtful that since DIII was formed in 1973, there have been more than a dozen DIII players during any single football season, who have played in one or more NFL regular season games for that season.  My SWAG is that altogether fewer than 125  DIII players (players who played for a DIII team after DIII was formed in 1973) have ever played in an NFL regular season game.

[frank uible]

On the Mount Union website the 2008 football roster lists Shorts as a junior. As of yesterday that website showed no 2009 football roster.

[frank uible]

As a general matter NFL scouts feel very uneasy about projecting a player who primarily played one position in a D1A college to a relatively unfamiliar position in the NFL. They do it sometimes, but usually they mark the player down in the process because of the perceived increased risk that he will turn out to be a wash out. They feel much more uneasy about doing it for a DIII player - almost to the point of automatically disqualifying the DIII player, irrespective of his talents. Coming out of DIII football is a large negative factor in NFL scouts' evaluations of college players.

[beenhit2hard]

Pat,
There were no quotes from LK in the article to confirm Cecil was in the mix for the QB position. So if that was in the rough draft it fell on the floor. If it falls into the category of the best 11 will play I would still think Cecil's best position is at WR unless they don't have anyone that can get him the ball. We won't really know that till some of these new QB prospects begin to practice. However I do not remember at any time where LK had a freshman QB starting or really in the early mix.

I believe Cecil is just coming into his JR year....Hurray! if that is the case.

Bill Borchert started as a frosh,,was to be the # 2 till the starter withdrew the week of game 1,,,,also,,,does MUC win the title last year w/o Cecil as a wr  Lk always works to get the best 11 on the fileld,,and in the right spots !!

[beenhit2hard]

  Time to go mow the grass !!

[HScoach]

Ah, finally some football talk!


The only thing keeping Mount from a return date with Whitewater in Salem is the QB position.  The defense will be killer, the O-line very good and deep, the running backs will be fine.  The only question in my mind is who is taking the snaps.

I completely trust whatever decision is made by LK, especially when it comes to QB's!  Winning 10 titles with drastically different styles has more than earned that from me.

Since we're talking alot of "what if", here's how I'd evaluate it from what little I see. 

I'd love to see Cecil as our starting QB.  I know he's our best WR, but I have doubts whether Rocco can distribute the ball effectively enough to warrant wasting your best athlete at WR.  I don't question Rocco's arm, I question his decision making.  And with Shorts, Petruzeillo and Claycomb at WR this season, the QB's ability to read a defense and make the right decision will be extremely important.

The running game without Kmic will be decent, but a very athletic QB would replace some of the explosiveness lost with Kmic.

If a viable QB develops, then I'd prefer Shorts stay at WR.  But I replacing his spot at WR is going to be a lot easier than replacing Micheli's at QB.  Without a dominant RB and with great depth at reciever, the ability of the QB is critical to the overall success of the offense.   If Kmic had another year, then a QB with a live arm but questionable decision making would still work (ala Mike Jorris).

My biggest fear actually is that the OAC is down talent-wise so far that no team is going to push Mount hard enough to actually expose any weaknesses (especially QB) early enough to get it fixed before the playoffs.  My old, fat butt could play QB this season and Mount would still win the OAC with the defense and O-line they have coming back. 

In my always paranoid world, I could see an offensive season similar to 2004 happening again.  It isn't until the playoffs that we realize our QB is average and can't make the plays needed on 3rd and long to win a game.



And to the question about a freshman QB, Bill Borchert was the only freshman to start from day one.    I could see a scenario where a freshman QB gets playing time backing up Rocco as the season progresses like Micheli did behind Jorris, but I'd be shocked to see a freshman as the starter with Rocco on the bench and Shorts at WR.  I think the QB is either going to be Kurt Rocco or Cecil Shorts.  Or maybe both?

[HScoach]

  Time to go mow the grass !!

If you're bored, mine needs cut too.

[SJFF82]

What do you guys think of the possibility of Shorts at QB this season?

  notice the date above...
I am the only one with "inside" info fellas

[SaintsFAN]

Put him on the bench, wrap him in cotton batten and save him for a rainy day.

exactly... its football, people!!  They play soccer in the Spring and late Summer.

As Herm Edwards says... you play to win the game.  I think some of you guys forget (not the guys I've met) that MUC CAN lose a game -- very easily.  LK's job is to get the best 11 on the field.  If thats CS at QB during the early part of the season, what does LK need to do, to earn your trust?  

I think I'd trust the guy.. he won the National Title, I think recently 

My comments about Cecil were made fom conversations with a certain Coach who has to make that decision as who to play at qb

ric is QB coach now?? 

[SaintsFAN]

Ah, finally some football talk!


The only thing keeping Mount from a return date with Whitewater in Salem is the QB position.  The defense will be killer, the O-line very good and deep, the running backs will be fine.  The only question in my mind is who is taking the snaps.

Simple answer: 

Teach Micheli how to throw right-handed and give him Rocco's jersey.  Then put a dark visor on his helmet and hope for the best.

[beenhit2hard]

Saints fan,,I don't talk to Ric,, Not unless you spell Ric with an L and a K