FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Blutarsky]

Very interesting offense:

http://www.d3football.com/tow/09/preallamericans.htm

Is Shumpert (UWW) the corner that Cecil beat twice for long touchdowns in last year's Stagg??

[02 Warhawk]

Very interesting offense:

http://www.d3football.com/tow/09/preallamericans.htm

Is Shumpert (UWW) the corner that Cecil beat twice for long touchdowns in last year's Stagg??

that would be him (see kirasdad's pic)

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Very interesting offense:

http://www.d3football.com/tow/09/preallamericans.htm

Lots of experience returning on the MUC O-Line but no love.   Will have to prove themselves during the season.

This is not a knock on the D3FB crew, I know they have a hard job creating this list.  3X the amount of players that they have to consider vs. D1 FBS.

[SaintsFAN]

Skunk and I are planning on heading to Rochester.  We figure we will just buy tickets when we get there.  From what I gleaned from the Fisher and Empire 8 guys, the visitors side leaves a lot to be desired.  It could be one of those "standing in the end zone" games.  

Could it be any worse than Otterbein?

Don't get HSCoach started on the Otterbein "pressbox".

Its a non-story, 70s... kinda like the 2009 season for the Otters...

Otterbein - Rafferty = no fight during the game, definitely no fight/screaming match prior to the game (unless they have the same "mascot" who started things last year) and no big crowd for MUC --- it will be business as usual.

[HScoach]

HSC.....please elaborate?

Good?  Bad?  Ugly? 

3 guys from Monmouth?  Really? 

By school name-recognition only, that's a pretty weak list.  I know a pre-season list is pretty worthless, but it just struck me how little firepower there is based on the schools the kids are from.  Not many guys that can expect to be playing very deep into the '09 playoffs.


QB
Aaron Fanthorpe, Sr., North Central (Ill.) 
Alex Tanney, Jr., Monmouth  

RB
DeRon Brown, Sr., MIT
Adam Anderson, Sr., Whitworth

RB
Tunde Ogun, Sr., Christopher Newport 
Quincy Daniels, Sr., Mary Hardin-Baylor

WR
Michael Jennings, Sr., Illinois College
Pat O'Connor, Sr., Dickinson 

WR
Cecil Shorts, Sr., Mount Union 
Michael Zweifel, Jr., Dubuque

TE
Reed Eason, Jr., Rose-Hulman 
Jorge Laboy, Sr., Bethany 

T
Blaine Westemeyer, Sr., Augustana 
Dave Schwindenhammer, Sr., Monmouth 

G
Josh Kotecki, Sr., Monmouth 
Kyle Antos, Jr., North Central (Ill.) 

C
Josh Ostrue, Sr., St. Thomas
Chad Schenkel, Jr., Franklin

G
John Shivers, Sr., Millsaps 
Colin Berry, Sr., Union

T
Mike Stoffel, Sr., Johns Hopkins
Jon Milner, Jr., LaGrange

[HScoach]

For the record, the Otterbein pressbox was fine once the windows were "opened".  The problem was the 5 mile hike to get to the actual field for the pregame stuff.

[seventiesraider]

For the record, the Otterbein pressbox was fine once the windows were "opened".  The problem was the 5 mile hike to get to the actual field for the pregame stuff.

Sorry, I thought that was the game that the stadium announcer drowned you guys out all game.

[Pat Coleman]

Standout individual players don't only exist on standout teams. If their teams don't perform to HSCoach's standards it won't be because of these players, it will be because of the other 40-some regulars.

[seventiesraider]

Of course the flip side of that argument is that there are many kids at Mount or Whitewater who may get no recognition, yet who might have been judged as standouts at 230 other DIII schools.

[Blutarsky]

Pat, I think the question is how you can predict three offensive All-Americans coming from a team that went 7-4 last year, scoring a total of 288 points in 11 games.  One of the projected All-Americans, the QB, isn't even listed as a "returning starter" according to the Monmouth website.  As far as I'm concerned, there were several UWW linemen that should be included......(and, at the risk of sounding like a "homer", maybe just one MUC??)

[02 Warhawk]

Of course the flip side of that argument is that there are many kids at Mount or Whitewater who may get no recognition, yet who might have been judged as standouts at 230 other DIII schools.

+K. that topic seems to come up on the WIAC board every time the pre-season and end-of-the-year all americans come out. It's a great point, but tough to judge though. A couple years back (2007) Wabash had an all-american linebacker on its squad. However, when they came to UWW during the playoffs, he was man handled by our line, well undersized and got pushed around the field. I doubt he would of even started on UWW's team (same goes with Mary HB and Mount Union).

Nevertheless..they still put up large numbers, so recognition for their accomplishments are still deserved. no matter what conference they play in. Pat doesn't have an easy job at selecting these young kids..

[Pat Coleman]

Pat, I think the question is how you can predict three offensive All-Americans coming from a team that went 7-4 last year, scoring a total of 288 points in 11 games.  One of the projected All-Americans, the QB, isn't even listed as a "returning starter" according to the Monmouth website.  As far as I'm concerned, there were several UWW linemen that should be included......(and, at the risk of sounding like a "homer", maybe just one MUC??)

I suspect you haven't done your homework very well. Our Monmouth is a D-III school in Illinois, not a I-AA school in New Jersey.

[rscl70]

Pat, I think the question is how you can predict three offensive All-Americans coming from a team that went 7-4 last year, scoring a total of 288 points in 11 games.  One of the projected All-Americans, the QB, isn't even listed as a "returning starter" according to the Monmouth website.  As far as I'm concerned, there were several UWW linemen that should be included......(and, at the risk of sounding like a "homer", maybe just one MUC??)

I suspect you haven't done your homework very well. Our Monmouth is a D-III school in Illinois, not a I-AA school in New Jersey.

The Alma Mater of Mr. Joe Tait television voice of the Purple Raiders and the Radio Voice of the Cleveland Cavaliers, no less.

[Raiderfreak]

Very interesting offense:

http://www.d3football.com/tow/09/preallamericans.htm

Is Shumpert (UWW) the corner that Cecil beat twice for long touchdowns in last year's Stagg??

He actually burt each corner once

that would be him (see kirasdad's pic)

[reality check]

If your starting to think about Sept 5th, East Rochester NY is approx 300 miles and around a 5 hour drive. 4:00 PM kickoff makes getting home Saturday problematic for some of us, actually it makes tailgating problematic for others 8)

Ten year old 2,500 seat stadium. unlike Whitewater you may want to call ahead for this one.

A small point of contention, SJFC is in Pittsford, NY, not East Rochester. From Alliance, it is probably closer to 4 and a half hours. The field is really nice. The Buffalo Bills are there now for training camp. It is also sunk in so i know other post said how it may be a sit in the endzone type of game, but it is a pretty nice view from there. The visitors side is what you expect from a visitors side. Standard metal, movable bleachers like you would find at high school fields. They have gotten close to 6,000 people there in the past for a rivalry game and most people have an inflated sense about their cardinal football, so they probably feel that this is a big rivalry. Wouldnt be surprised to see close to 6,000 there again.

I guess we OAC folk expect more from visitor sides than they do in the east.  Portable metal bleachers do not constitute a visitor stands.  We do have portable metal stands used at games but it's overflow seating when the existing permanent stands are not enough to accommodate the total capacity of all spectators.  Even at the D-III level, portable stands should not be considered adequate seating.