FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[TooForRaider]

CS-I just wanted to respond to the whole "bending over for MUC comments" regarding RC. And I know RC is a big boy, but when someone is wrong, it needs to be pointed out. (And before you get on your high horse about grammar, please note it is gramattically correct and accepted to end a sentence in a preposition).

While I am an MUC fan and former player, I do not consider myself one of the members of the MUC posters in here that are friends or acquaintances beyond these boards. And I say that only because I've never met them- they've always welcomed my opinions (to an extent).  

It is true that we tend to gang up on outsiders or fans of other teams. Why else would we be on here? That is going to happen when we outnumber them.  However, RC (unlike you) seems to think logically and understand arguments that have or lack merit.  Admitting that someone else's opinions or assertions are correct in no way means that he is bending over for MUC. He has the balls to admit when he is wrong and more importantly, the balls to stick to his guns when he is right.  

No matter your opinion about MUC bringing down the OAC, the fact remains that the other teams control their destiny in the other 9 games.  You'd be hardpressed to find a group of people who actually think of the OAC as MUC and the little 9.  Keep in mind I am talking about people with common sense, not just someone who rants on and on for no reason.  

Jeff-Apparently MUC should leave the OAC so the other teams can feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  He does not have a point at all, unless you are all for giving out rewards for free. Which is no reward at all.

Example-Every OAC team's goal should be to win the league and knock of MUC.  MUC is out=Don't worry guys, if we are unable to obtain our goals for long enough, it will be handed to us in good time! Great point!

[Raider 68]

This board is so busy this morning, how about another topic for discussion to:

What are everyone's thoughts on the Mount/W & J game?

Is there another team in the East that shows the potential to get into the region finals?

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

This board is so busy this morning, how about another topic for discussion to:

What are everyone's thoughts on the Mount/W & J game?

Is there another team in the East that shows the potential to get into the region finals?

Don't know much.  Didn't see the scrimmage and seeing as the Presidents appear to have been the last team to make it to the playoffs, it doesn't look good for them.  It will be interesting to see the Siriani vs. LK matchup, with Matt Caponi also playing a role as the DC for the Presidents.

[Knightstalker]

I appreciate everyone coming to my defense but I'm over the whole thing. 

Believe me, it was hard to do. 


kirasdad,

where did you find that picture of KC Keeler??   Nice..

Is KC wheeler still at Delaware St? Have not followed them or him, but maybe they will be in the D2 playoffs!

I believe they are I-AA, sir.

It is Delaware not Delaware St.

[theaprof]

If I offend some, so be it.

But will you be offended by someone who's easily offended?   

Hey!  I'm the one easily offended and even I was not offended--is that offensive?

[Blutarsky]

RC vs. CarrollStreaks........

I smell "cage match"

[jaypeter]

If I offend some, so be it.

But will you be offended by someone who's easily offended?   

Hey!  I'm the one easily offended and even I was not offended--is that offensive?

Easy, there...no need to get defensive!

[Dr. Acula]

Sounds good, 68.  I'll throw out a couple observations.  These are just from glancing at the stats so I would love to hear thoughts from someone who saw W&J play this year.

--As mentioned earlier, it looks like W&J has some talented guys in the front 7 (or 6 I suppose if they're running MUC's D).  They have 35 sacks this year.  For the sake of comparison MUC has 29.  There's no question Sr. DL Jacob Bloomhuff (6'3", 245) looks like the guy to key on (14.5 sacks and 14.5 TFL).

--One of the first things I looked at was what their D has done the last couple weeks of the season.  Basically I wanted to see how they did defending the run/pass against, less face it, inferior teams.  They allowed 237 and 241 yards passing to Waynesburg and Bethany.  Specifically I looked closely at Waynesburg because it was a 14-9 game at half.  W&J made it 28-9 after 3, but what I looked for was whether Waynesburg piled on a bunch of passing yds. in the 4th qtr after they were down multiple scores.  They had 34 yds. passing in the 4th, so it was not the case.

--Offensively W&J has some similarities to MUC.  Kind of.  They don't appear to have a featured RB.  Like MUC they have a couple guys splitting carries.  McAllister is their leading rusher with 556 yds. on 104 carries.

--W&J also has a clear #1 WR.  Besong has 83 grabs for 1006 yds.  His 9 rec. TD's also make him their leading scorer.  Considering their next receiving option has 25 catches for 278 yds. I think it's fairly obvious that shutting down Besong is a huge deal.  TM managed to hold him to 7 catches for 48 yds. so it can be done.

--Rometo appears to be a capable QB, but after Swallow there's a clear drop off statistically.  Rometo's 141/216 (65.3%), 1617 yds, 17 TD, 6 INT for a 148.6 efficiency rating is solid.  But after Swallow threw for nearly 7,000 yds. and over 80 TD's the last 2 seasons this year has been a slide back to reality a little bit.  

--I also noted that Rometo has only 28 carries for 18 yds.  I believe a sack counts as a rushing attempt (I know the sack yardage comes off the rushing yards).  This tells me that Rometo doesn't look like much of a threat to run unless he's running for his life.  

--Looks like W&J only attempted 3 FG's this season going 1 for 3.

--TM held W&J to 7 points on 155 total yds. (41 rush/114 pass) so the Presidents can be stymied.  Based on what SaintsFan has posted it sounds like his alma mater has some speed and athleticism on D.  This clearly bodes well for the Raiders' D as I think most would call them fast and athletic as well.

--Couldn't help but notice in their only big game of the year W&J threw 3 picks and put the ball on the turf 3 more times (luckily recovering all of their own fumbles).  Mistakes like that will let this one get out of hand earlier than it otherwise could.

[HScoach]

With all due respect (because you are truly one of the few who commands it around here), you're wrong.  Reality Check embellished on a story a few weeks back and didn't have the guts to concede that he might be wrong when called on it.  And when I challenged him on his assertion, a few posters here had the audacity to say that he must be right because he's been here longer.  Talk about a load of garbage.

CS --

I know Reality Check personally from the years of posting and the weekend I spent with him back in October.  He's a quality guy (despite being a graduate of Chaminade-Julienne).  He has character and morals.  When he says something, I believe him.  Its not because I'm kissing his A$$, its because I know his background and saw a little bit of how he was raised because I've also spent time with his mother.  

I'm not saying you aren't a quality person, its just that I haven't had the chance to hang with you.  The time that I've spent with hscoach, hurfmuc, theaprof, skunks, skunkssidekick, mtfan and wesleydad have showed me they are also quality people.  If any of these guys said something on here --- I'd accept it as truth.  

Forgive the guys who have come to Reality Check's defense.. chances are they've also been able to hang with him and see the same things that I do in him.  

As far as the "defeatist attitude"--- I think you're right... to a certain extent.  Though I know Ohio Northern doesn't subscribe to this theory.  The reality is when a team plays MUC, not only are they facing a loss --- but they also get nicked up from the physicality of playing Mount Union.  This affects teams for the next week or two as substitutes are needed to step up.   This definitely affected ONU with their game against Otterbein in 2009.  

I also think it's kind of funny that you guys all jumped all over CS for his "starting off the season 0-1" comment.  I know that is a defeatist attitude, but when a team only has one loss in the conference in over 15 years, it is pretty much statistically true.  I don't know if in the long run it is beneficial for teams to get to play a team like MUC every year, but it surely does hurt the other 9 OAC teams' playoff chances.

I don't think moving MUC to independent is the best choice here --- MUC Athletics is more than just the football program and they have to consider whats best for all the sports.  But, if you were to look at --- I think you'd see that Mount Union would have trouble scheduling 10 opponents annually as an Independent.  Thats problem #1.   I played 4 years for an Independent and we weren't even close to being on the level of MUC, but we had some crazy scheduling because it was so tough to fill 10 games.  We ended up playing teams like Morehead State, who still had scholarship athletes (yeah that was fun--being their Homecoming victim in 1998) and the teams before me played AT Montana, which was an absolute bloodbath.  

Wow.  So you've hung with Momma RC?   Exactly how well did you .....get to "know" her?


And hopefully that DID offend some people not so easily offended.

[SaintsFAN]

--I also noted that Rometo has only 28 carries for 18 yds.  I believe a sack counts as a rushing attempt (I know the sack yardage comes off the rushing yards).  This tells me that Rometo doesn't look like much of a threat to run unless he's running for his life.  

--Looks like W&J only attempted 3 FG's this season going 1 for 3.

--TM held W&J to 7 points on 155 total yds. (41 rush/114 pass) so the Presidents can be stymied.  Based on what SaintsFan has posted it sounds like his alma mater has some speed and athleticism on D.  This clearly bodes well for the Raiders' D as I think most would call them fast and athletic as well.

--Couldn't help but notice in their only big game of the year W&J threw 3 picks and put the ball on the turf 3 more times (luckily recovering all of their own fumbles).  Mistakes like that will let this one get out of hand earlier than it otherwise could.

the key is to pressure Rometo... he absolutely cracked under pressure against TMC.  You would think that TMC sent a bunch of defenders at him, but that wasn't the case.  The Saints rushed 3-4-5 people... our 200 lb nosetackle was unblockable even when we only sent 3.  I think MUC's defense will have their way with the offensive line of W&J.   Millings and Hebert could have career days..

W&J needs a miracle offensively... Besong was open a couple times late in that game, but Rometo couldn't deliver.  

[SaintsFAN]

Wow.  So you've hung with Momma RC?   Exactly how well did you .....get to "know" her?


And hopefully that DID offend some people not so easily offended.

easy!  she and SF's girlfriend hung out most of the day when RC and I roamed the stadium.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Article on the Game:

For several W&J coaches, it's 'like any other game'

I forgot that Stickley was there also.

[reality check]

Developments in the desert (not dessert, sorry hscoach)...

It looks like I will be a varsity offensive coordinator next football season.  There are some changes in the staff and the HC (also D-Coord) says he has all the confidence he needs to give me the reigns on offense.  I'm a little skeptical since I just finished my first season as a freshman OC but if he believes in me it's a chance I can't really overlook.  I'm glad I had to step in for the final three games as a JV OC now too.  Should be interesting...

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Developments in the desert (not dessert, sorry hscoach)...

It looks like I will be a varsity offensive coordinator next football season.  There are some changes in the staff and the HC (also D-Coord) says he has all the confidence he needs to give me the reigns on offense.  I'm a little skeptical since I just finished my first season as a freshman OC but if he believes in me it's a chance I can't really overlook.  I'm glad I had to step in for the final three games as a JV OC now too.  Should be interesting...

Congratulations RC!  You'll do a great job!!

[TooForRaider]

Developments in the desert (not dessert, sorry hscoach)...

It looks like I will be a varsity offensive coordinator next football season.  There are some changes in the staff and the HC (also D-Coord) says he has all the confidence he needs to give me the reigns on offense.  I'm a little skeptical since I just finished my first season as a freshman OC but if he believes in me it's a chance I can't really overlook.  I'm glad I had to step in for the final three games as a JV OC now too.  Should be interesting...

GREAT news! Congrats.