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purpled

As I read Alliance's local paper this past week of Mount's first game a quote by LK reminded me of two years ago. He basically said that both qb's would be playing. That means we're back to the shuttle system. I have never been a proponent of using two qb's because it hinders the growth of each and neither can get into the flow during a game.

Are these 2 qb's that close that LK can't make a decision?
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scotty

purpled, not to get attacked by "reality check", but is this a byproduct of such a massive football program or just an isolated case...again, no negative here just curious...
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seventiesraider

If you have two really great QB's (or more) why not make sure they both have game experience??? Why not give hope to the 6 or more other QB's on the roster??? I really think that it is genius to go with two different QB's at this level.  God knows it's alot more work. But think about it. Who do you prepare for??? Mount could use 8 or 9 running backs in a game and nobody would say a word. Say your going to use two QB's and everybody thinks your wierd. Heck for most of the past 15 years we always used two QB's. One in the first half and one to mop up later.
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reality check

Is having two good qb's the byproduct of a massive program?  You can have two good qb's if you have two qb's on your roster (be it 180 or 11 deep).  Give it a rest Scotty.  

I bet the Buckeyes only have a qb controversy because of the size of their program.  It has nothing to do with the two qb's themselves.

I bet last year that the Giants had a battle between Eli and Kurt because of the size of their team and not because of the personnel.
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

scotty

RealityCheck, cant you lighten up...i clarified my question...usually its between a sr and soph lets say...why so sensitive...is it that recruiting figure?...
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4u

Your boy McDaniels is getting a lot of air time tonight.  Madden sure likes talking about him.  
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

reality check

I'm sorry Scotty.  I guess I just don't like you.   ;)
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

raiderguy

Chill Reality!

I think a one QB system is good too but if you have two regular guys as opposed to a clear choice of one why not use both for all the experience it offers. Mount  used that system in 2003 and when Burghart went down in the JC game, Bruney carried the team for a good portion of the regular season. Good thing we had him on the same level or it could have been a serious problem.

Mount doesn't have a Ballard/Smeck type guy so you use what works best for the team. I don't think is has anything to do with the number of players on the roster. I don't think LK is having any problem choosing a starter. He seems to know how to use talent pretty well.

The secret here is LK was in the exact same system when he played.  Bill Unger played one half and LK played the other. The score was not a factor as I recall.
LK was more of a pro set type and Unger was more of an option specialist. Each week the defenses had to prepare for both types of offense.  It is difficult enough to prepare for one type of offense but having to face two different types makes it even more challenging. Plus the O-line became proficient at all types of blocking schemes. That year was a 9-1 and the best season to date at Mount.

On another note last week Hardin-Simmons rotated two complete O-lines during the game. The second group consisted of four freshmen and a soph center. About every third series these guys came in. They use this to give experience in game situations and it gives the guys something to look forward to after a hard week of practice. It also gave the first team O a chance to get a break and come in rested in their next series. All the time wearing down the opponents first team D. The scary part was there was not much of a drop off in performance when this second squad was in!
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By the way, that actually is common practice at HSU. They've done that for as long as we've been covering D-III, I believe.
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HScoach

70's:  The problem with your arguement is the use of the word "great".  If either of these guys were great, that guy would have won the job.  They both appear to be better than average, both are decent athletes with similar skills.  The issue is that neither has stepped up enough to take the job.  So until that happens, you play both hoping the decision is made for you by the kids.  Burghardt and Bruney were the same thing.  Both good, both similar, but neither were great.

I find it hard to believe that there's an offensive coordinator in the country that prefers a 2 QB system when both QB's are similar.  They might use it, they might say they like it to boost the confidence in the kids, they might even force themselves to do it in order to gain experience for the younger guy (ala HSU and the O-line), but QB is a position that can't be easily rotated.  The spots that are dependent on physical play can be rotated easily.  But QB play is too dependent on the mental side to work well as a rotation. 

The only time playing 2 QB's makes sense is when you such drastic differences in styles and ability.  Then the goal is to make the defense prepare for 2 completely different offenses.




Pat:  When did a little sarcastic humor become a vicious attack?  So I guess the "panties in a wad" comment was too much????? ;D
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Still missing picks from the following:

B4UKNEWIT
CRUSADER26
ECW
JAYPETER
JK
MT FAN
PIMP IN THE CHAT
RIC
SKUNKS SIDEKICK
TIGER ALUM



I find easily offended people rather offensive!

Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

4u

Josh McDaniels called the plays for the Patriots last night (as anyone who watched the game would have noticed).  It was nice to see him get some recognition on national TV.  It will be interesting to watch the media frenzy when (if) they lose.  I'm sure there will be a lot of doubters,
4u
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skunks_sidekick

My picks are IN!   ;)

A note about the quarterbacks at Mount.  Trust me when I tell you this, this two quarterback thing is going to last this year only.  There is a quarterback on the way, and a source VERY close to the source says the powers that be (which is ONE  ;D) is extremely HIGH on the kid. 

I wonder if he gets playing time this year.

skunks_sidekick

 :o

WOW!  I should be a politician with strong statements like THAT!

Toph

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on September 09, 2005, 03:03:43 PM
 There is a quarterback on the way, and a source VERY close to the source says the powers that be (which is ONE  ;D) is extremely HIGH on the kid. 

I wonder if he gets playing time this year.

Ah yes, the old source very close to the source.  I know him well.