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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: HScoach on December 29, 2011, 08:14:26 PM
Neal's best attributes are his work ethic and his knowledge.   Lacks the arm to be a great QB, but coaches typically prefer steady, hard workers over inconsistent, nonchalant practice players.

Put Piloto's arm on Seaman and we'd be fine.

Only thing keeping Mount from titles the last two years has been QB play.

If one of Seaman's best attributes is his work ethic, then PurpleSuit's comment about his staying in Alliance for summer workouts puzzle's me.  Especially when Louisville is only a stones throw away from UMU.
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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

What about the Freshman from TX?

Roman Namdar:  6'0"  180
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What about getting Burke on the field in another spot?  ie..wr ala Shorts

PurpleSuit

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 29, 2011, 08:36:29 PM
What about the Freshman from TX?

Roman Namdar:  6'0"  180

Between Namdar and Burke, Mount has two of the most prominent HS programs in the country represented with Southlake Carroll and St. Ed's.  I'm pretty sure that Namdar spent more time at WR than QB in HS.  I would see Namdar moved to another position before Burke. 

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 29, 2011, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: Raider 68 on December 29, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
Good question, when was the last time Coach Kehres went with an underclassman vs. a senior as a starter?

Bill Borchert?

Micheli pretty much replaced Jorris after Jorris won a National Title in his Jr season, if I remember correctly

emma17

Quote from: HScoach on December 29, 2011, 08:14:26 PM
Neal's best attributes are his work ethic and his knowledge.   Lacks the arm to be a great QB, but coaches typically prefer steady, hard workers over inconsistent, nonchalant practice players.

Put Piloto's arm on Seaman and we'd be fine.

Only thing keeping Mount from titles the last two years has been QB play.

What about the lack of a running game?  Having seen some great Mt QB's I understand the concern at the position.  But that said, it seems Mt has become pretty one dimensional when it comes to offense in the Stagg.  I understand football at the NFL level, for the most part, has become a passing game, but it takes a whole lot of talent and scheme to be so reliant on it.   

HScoach

Emma:  Mount has never won the battle up front against the good WIAC teams, dating clear back to LAX in the early 90's, and UWW now is no different.  The best we can hope for is a stalemate at the line of scrimmage to allow our usual advantage at the skill positions to win it.  Was the same against the Rowan teams too.  Mount won in spite of their O-line and running game, not because of it. 

A stud RB would be nice, but facing a WIAC team with dominant line play I'd rather have a good QB to distribute the ball to the great corps of receivers that Mount has.  Put a Greg Micheli (or even Kurt Rocco) on the '11 Raiders and they win the Stagg.  Not sure the same could be said of Nate Kmic or Chuck Moore's influence on this offense. 
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Quote from: HScoach on December 29, 2011, 08:14:26 PM
Neal's best attributes are his work ethic and his knowledge.   Lacks the arm to be a great QB, but coaches typically prefer steady, hard workers over inconsistent, nonchalant practice players.

Put Piloto's arm on Seaman and we'd be fine.

Only thing keeping Mount from titles the last two years has been QB play.

HScoach,

Agree that Piloto was not consistant enough throughout the season, but Seaman did not show real improvement from his sophomore year, IMHO. He was somewhat inconsistant as well in a few games.
Regarding the Stagg, better QB play would have made the difference in addition to the turnovers. The Raider line played UWW more even in this Stagg, but agree they did not in past years.

Zac Bruney did not have a strong arm, but he was very quick and also shared the QB duties. like Seaman/Piloto. The question for 2012 will be, how can the Raiders improve the play at QB? :)
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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: HScoach on December 30, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Emma:  Mount has never won the battle up front against the good WIAC teams, dating clear back to LAX in the early 90's, and UWW now is no different.  The best we can hope for is a stalemate at the line of scrimmage to allow our usual advantage at the skill positions to win it.  Was the same against the Rowan teams too.  Mount won in spite of their O-line and running game, not because of it. 

A stud RB would be nice, but facing a WIAC team with dominant line play I'd rather have a good QB to distribute the ball to the great corps of receivers that Mount has.  Put a Greg Micheli (or even Kurt Rocco) on the '11 Raiders and they win the Stagg.  Not sure the same could be said of Nate Kmic or Chuck Moore's influence on this offense.

HSCoach,
You've seen many more games than I have over the years, but with a 13-10 loss in this year's Stagg, I believe a Kmic or Moore could have made the difference.  Having a back like that, makes the pass rush not so "pin your ears back" and also forces the Linebackers and Safeties to keep an eye on the play action, which would open up the passing lanes.

No argument here on how better QB play would have also made the difference, but I think a more dominant rushing attack could have also swung the tides in Mount Union's favor.

Heck, a healthy Seaman may have won this one for the Raiders with his ability to move in the pocket.
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Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 30, 2011, 09:44:02 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 30, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Emma:  Mount has never won the battle up front against the good WIAC teams, dating clear back to LAX in the early 90's, and UWW now is no different.  The best we can hope for is a stalemate at the line of scrimmage to allow our usual advantage at the skill positions to win it.  Was the same against the Rowan teams too.  Mount won in spite of their O-line and running game, not because of it. 

A stud RB would be nice, but facing a WIAC team with dominant line play I'd rather have a good QB to distribute the ball to the great corps of receivers that Mount has.  Put a Greg Micheli (or even Kurt Rocco) on the '11 Raiders and they win the Stagg.  Not sure the same could be said of Nate Kmic or Chuck Moore's influence on this offense.

HSCoach,
You've seen many more games than I have over the years, but with a 13-10 loss in this year's Stagg, I believe a Kmic or Moore could have made the difference.  Having a back like that, makes the pass rush not so "pin your ears back" and also forces the Linebackers and Safeties to keep an eye on the play action, which would open up the passing lanes.

No argument here on how better QB play would have also made the difference, but I think a more dominant rushing attack could have also swung the tides in Mount Union's favor.

Heck, a healthy Seaman may have won this one for the Raiders with his ability to move in the pocket.

K & J's Dad,

I hope the next Kmic or Moore is coming soon. Murray improved this year and Simon how appears to be that strong FB that also can run, but hopefully the Raiders have an eye on that top recruit who choses the Raiders over a D1 or D2 school. Maybe someone knows more about some of the many HS prospects that have been on campus! :)
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emma17

Quote from: HScoach on December 30, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Emma:  Mount has never won the battle up front against the good WIAC teams, dating clear back to LAX in the early 90's, and UWW now is no different.  The best we can hope for is a stalemate at the line of scrimmage to allow our usual advantage at the skill positions to win it.  Was the same against the Rowan teams too.  Mount won in spite of their O-line and running game, not because of it. 

A stud RB would be nice, but facing a WIAC team with dominant line play I'd rather have a good QB to distribute the ball to the great corps of receivers that Mount has.  Put a Greg Micheli (or even Kurt Rocco) on the '11 Raiders and they win the Stagg.  Not sure the same could be said of Nate Kmic or Chuck Moore's influence on this offense.

Interesting, I wasn't familiar with the style of ball pre UWW.  I won't tell that to D Blanchard  :)

I'm curious on your take (or anyone's take) on the deep threat Mt has with its talented group of receivers.  As I only saw Mt once this year, I don't want to jump to conclusions.  Shorts beat UWW on 3 bombs in two of the Stagg Bowls, and with so much talk about this being one of Mt's best groups of receivers I was anxious to see if it would happen this game.  I was figuring #1 or Collins might be the guy.  Although I know the pressure forced bad/quick throws, I don't remember seeing a Mt receiver getting open deep.   

That deep threat in the past also enabled the lethal crossing route as safeties were deep.  Just didn't see it this year. 

rscl70

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 30, 2011, 09:44:02 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 30, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Emma:  Mount has never won the battle up front against the good WIAC teams, dating clear back to LAX in the early 90's, and UWW now is no different.  The best we can hope for is a stalemate at the line of scrimmage to allow our usual advantage at the skill positions to win it.  Was the same against the Rowan teams too.  Mount won in spite of their O-line and running game, not because of it. 

A stud RB would be nice, but facing a WIAC team with dominant line play I'd rather have a good QB to distribute the ball to the great corps of receivers that Mount has.  Put a Greg Micheli (or even Kurt Rocco) on the '11 Raiders and they win the Stagg.  Not sure the same could be said of Nate Kmic or Chuck Moore's influence on this offense.

HSCoach,
You've seen many more games than I have over the years, but with a 13-10 loss in this year's Stagg, I believe a Kmic or Moore could have made the difference.  Having a back like that, makes the pass rush not so "pin your ears back" and also forces the Linebackers and Safeties to keep an eye on the play action, which would open up the passing lanes.

No argument here on how better QB play would have also made the difference, but I think a more dominant rushing attack could have also swung the tides in Mount Union's favor.

Heck, a healthy Seaman may have won this one for the Raiders with his ability to move in the pocket.

We have three good running backs in Murray, Skilliter (whom I'm surprised we did not see more of in the Stagg) and Simon.  An improved running attack depends on an improved O Line.  I think Seaman's running ability may have helped in the Stagg, but I have no confidence in his passing.  He tends to lob the ball when it should be hard and straight, and he often throws behind the receivers.  If he can improve the passing over the summer I'd be very happy to see him as the starter.  Otherwise, somebody else better step up.
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HScoach

They didn't have a Shorts or Garcon on this team, but what they did have was a deep group of guys that were all #2 receiver quality.  Which is why I'm lamenting the lack of QB play this season.  This WR corps would be perfect for a smart, accurate QB.  Doesn't need a cannon, just able to quickly read the defense and a quick release.  Mount's best offensive set is 4 wide, but the Piloto isn't able to read a defense.   
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Per rscl70,

"We have three good running backs in Murray, Skilliter (whom I'm surprised we did not see more of in the Stagg) and Simon.  An improved running attack depends on an improved O Line.  I think Seaman's running ability may have helped in the Stagg, but I have no confidence in his passing.  He tends to lob the ball when it should be hard and straight, and he often throws behind the receivers.  If he can improve the passing over the summer I'd be very happy to see him as the starter.  Otherwise, somebody else better step up."
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rscl70,

While Piloto was inconsistant at times, he was also right on target many times. The QB who has the best off-season and dedication will get the most reps! :)

                                    Gms  Compl                     Yds   P/gm        TDs  Int     long
13 Matt Piloto        Jr QB 15     180     281  64.1%  2245  149.7  8.0  21    9   6     50 
12 Neal Seaman    Jr QB 10      73      120  60.8%  825     82.5  6.9  8      2   9     58 
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TheeBuffaloSabres

Just from personal experience Zac Bruney DID have a strong arm.

and we all wanna be like tommy gavin

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To all the OAC posters, have a Happy and Healthy New Year, looking forward to 2012! :)
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