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[Raider 68]

Warhawk, Tailgate, bleedpurple and all:

Interesting discussion regarding the roster limits.  Some of this has been discussed on the boards in the past in addition to the current discussion.  As you have mentioned, some DIII conferences have a roster limit of 100; we also know that the NCAA has a limit for playoff rosters.  However, do you know if some conferences that allow more than the 100 player roster have a limit on the number of players who can dress for home games and/or the travel squad for away games?  Most schools that I know usually limit travel rosters to anywhere from 53 to perhaps maybe (maybe) 60 at the most, in part, due to obvious costs, and again, if there is no conference limit.  It is also my understanding that, in some conferences, schools can dress as many players as they want to for home games, including over 100+ if desired (I know Hope does), again, if there are no conference mandates limiting that situation also.  What is your understanding regarding all these scenarios? 

   

formerd3db,

Great to see you on the boards! IHMO, there are many teams that carry over 100 on the rosters and the top programs that
are permitted to have that number of players do. However, making the two deep roster is another story, but with a lot of talent
the coaches really have large pool to select from.

[formerd3db]

Warhawk, Tailgate, bleedpurple and all:

Interesting discussion regarding the roster limits.  Some of this has been discussed on the boards in the past in addition to the current discussion.  As you have mentioned, some DIII conferences have a roster limit of 100; we also know that the NCAA has a limit for playoff rosters.  However, do you know if some conferences that allow more than the 100 player roster have a limit on the number of players who can dress for home games and/or the travel squad for away games?  Most schools that I know usually limit travel rosters to anywhere from 53 to perhaps maybe (maybe) 60 at the most, in part, due to obvious costs, and again, if there is no conference limit.  It is also my understanding that, in some conferences, schools can dress as many players as they want to for home games, including over 100+ if desired (I know Hope does), again, if there are no conference mandates limiting that situation also.  What is your understanding regarding all these scenarios? 

   

formerd3db,

Great to see you on the boards! IHMO, there are many teams that carry over 100 on the rosters and the top programs that
are permitted to have that number of players do. However, making the two deep roster is another story, but with a lot of talent
the coaches really have large pool to select from.

Thanks Raide68:

Much going on personally for me, so I've been slightly AWOL here on the boards, although many others have had to be so as well for many reasons-obviously the "off-season" being among those (and perhaps a slightly lesser important one).

Anyway, I agree with you entirely on those aspects you mention.  I do know that at Hope, we have dressed upwards of over 120+ for home games.

BTW, congratulations on your new job position.  I saw it on LinkedIn and forgot to send you a congrats there!  Hope you are doing well.

[reality check]

Just logged in for the first time in months to see how sad the discussion has been for the last three or four months.  Thank goodness coaching kept me busy and away from this circular argument. 

PS- Missed you guys!

[bleedpurple]

Warhawk, Tailgate, bleedpurple and all:

Interesting discussion regarding the roster limits.  Some of this has been discussed on the boards in the past in addition to the current discussion.  As you have mentioned, some DIII conferences have a roster limit of 100; we also know that the NCAA has a limit for playoff rosters.  However, do you know if some conferences that allow more than the 100 player roster have a limit on the number of players who can dress for home games and/or the travel squad for away games?  Most schools that I know usually limit travel rosters to anywhere from 53 to perhaps maybe (maybe) 60 at the most, in part, due to obvious costs, and again, if there is no conference limit.  It is also my understanding that, in some conferences, schools can dress as many players as they want to for home games, including over 100+ if desired (I know Hope does), again, if there are no conference mandates limiting that situation also.  What is your understanding regarding all these scenarios? 

WIAC has a roster limit of 100, all of whom can dress for home games.  The WIAC travel roster limit is 60.

[TailGate]

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[ExTartanPlayer]

Warhawk, Tailgate, bleedpurple and all:

Interesting discussion regarding the roster limits.  Some of this has been discussed on the boards in the past in addition to the current discussion.  As you have mentioned, some DIII conferences have a roster limit of 100; we also know that the NCAA has a limit for playoff rosters.  However, do you know if some conferences that allow more than the 100 player roster have a limit on the number of players who can dress for home games and/or the travel squad for away games?  Most schools that I know usually limit travel rosters to anywhere from 53 to perhaps maybe (maybe) 60 at the most, in part, due to obvious costs, and again, if there is no conference limit.  It is also my understanding that, in some conferences, schools can dress as many players as they want to for home games, including over 100+ if desired (I know Hope does), again, if there are no conference mandates limiting that situation also.  What is your understanding regarding all these scenarios? 

The UAA was one such conference with travel squad limited to 60-ish for away games but everyone allowed to dress for home games; for awhile I thought it was odd because it seemed to give the home team an advantage of a larger roster on top of already playing at home (sure, we're all on the equal playing field over the course of a season in a balanced home/away schedule, but on the individual-game level the home team would have an advantage).  Ultimately, I decided that I was fine with it because in any individual game, the likelihood of more than 60 players being required for a game (or, perhaps more importantly, the likelihood of players #61, 62, and 63 being the difference between winning and losing; in blowout wins, a team could go well beyond the 60 players as they empty the bench, so I'm really just speaking of "close" games here) is quite small.  Realistically, in competitive games, the home team isn't likely to play more than those first 60 or so anyway, right?  I also think dressing the full squad for home games is important because it just seems like kids might not even feel part of the team if they don't get to dress for home games (imagine sitting in the stands, trying to convince your other friends that you actually are on the team).

[bleedpurple]

Warhawk, Tailgate, bleedpurple and all:

Interesting discussion regarding the roster limits.  Some of this has been discussed on the boards in the past in addition to the current discussion.  As you have mentioned, some DIII conferences have a roster limit of 100; we also know that the NCAA has a limit for playoff rosters.  However, do you know if some conferences that allow more than the 100 player roster have a limit on the number of players who can dress for home games and/or the travel squad for away games?  Most schools that I know usually limit travel rosters to anywhere from 53 to perhaps maybe (maybe) 60 at the most, in part, due to obvious costs, and again, if there is no conference limit.  It is also my understanding that, in some conferences, schools can dress as many players as they want to for home games, including over 100+ if desired (I know Hope does), again, if there are no conference mandates limiting that situation also.  What is your understanding regarding all these scenarios? 

The UAA was one such conference with travel squad limited to 60-ish for away games but everyone allowed to dress for home games; for awhile I thought it was odd because it seemed to give the home team an advantage of a larger roster on top of already playing at home (sure, we're all on the equal playing field over the course of a season in a balanced home/away schedule, but on the individual-game level the home team would have an advantage).  Ultimately, I decided that I was fine with it because in any individual game, the likelihood of more than 60 players being required for a game (or, perhaps more importantly, the likelihood of players #61, 62, and 63 being the difference between winning and losing; in blowout wins, a team could go well beyond the 60 players as they empty the bench, so I'm really just speaking of "close" games here) is quite small.  Realistically, in competitive games, the home team isn't likely to play more than those first 60 or so anyway, right?  I also think dressing the full squad for home games is important because it just seems like kids might not even feel part of the team if they don't get to dress for home games (imagine sitting in the stands, trying to convince your other friends that you actually are on the team).

I agree. I am guessing the percentage of game outcomes that would be different if there were no limits on the travel roster is EXTREMELY small. While a deeper team  may choose to play more than 60 players in a competitive game, it's unlikely that doing so increases their chance of winning that game. It is simply an exercise in building depth in the program and, as you say, reward more players who work hard in practice every day. 

I would also add that the road roster limit can actually work against an overmatched home team because the superior visiting team will play much of their two-deep roster for more of the game. 

[bleedpurple]

BW loses offensive coordinator and ONU shuffles coaching staff according to:

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

[HScoach]

BW loses offensive coordinator and ONU shuffles coaching staff according to:

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

BW had an offensive coordinator?    Really?   

[emma17]

BW loses offensive coordinator and ONU shuffles coaching staff according to:

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

BW had an offensive coordinator?    Really?

What- you weren't offended?

[bleedpurple]

BW loses offensive coordinator and ONU shuffles coaching staff according to:

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

BW had an offensive coordinator?    Really?

According to FS, he's starting a company called Coaches Edge Technologies. Are you saying the phrase, "Those who can, do; those who can't teach" applies here?

Thanks for the laugh! 

[raiderguy]

BW loses offensive coordinator and ONU shuffles coaching staff according to:

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

I noticed in that same listing of coaching changes, Ross Watson is returning to Ohio to be an assistant at Youngstown State.

[mr_mom]

BW loses offensive coordinator and ONU shuffles coaching staff according to:

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

BW had an offensive coordinator?    Really?

According to FS, he's starting a company called Coaches Edge Technologies. Are you saying the phrase, "Those who can, do; those who can't teach" applies here?

And those who can't teach, administrate!   

[02 Warhawk]

Out of curiosity, has the gravity of Mount's football program help catapult other athletic programs at Mount Union? I assume everyone knows who Mount Union is in the D3 world, so I was wondering if other athletic programs have experienced similar success on a national level? Or is Mount's football program head and shoulders above the rest of their athletic department.

[Raider 68]

Out of curiosity, has the gravity of Mount's football program help catapult other athletic programs at Mount Union? I assume everyone knows who Mount Union is in the D3 world, so I was wondering if other athletic programs have experienced similar success on a national level? Or is Mount's football program head and shoulders above the rest of their athletic department.

02 Warhawk,

Good question! Mount Union has had success other sports. Track & Field championships both indoor and outdoor have been
at the top both in conference and national placement for 40 + years. Baseball has always been consistently good.
More recently wrestling, basketball has seen success. The men basketball won the conference this past year and
the women have eitherwon the conference or finished strong (except this year) Many of the other sports are up
there in terms of the conference. So, is the football program head and shoulders above all other sports,
Yes on a conference and national level. Mount has won the conference all sports award more recently or finished
in the top 3 for 10 schools. The success of the the football program has elevated the other sports, but you know
who the athletic director is, so it is no surprise that the other sport programs are now winning championships  +k good question