FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Actually, 100% of the champions since 2003 wore purple. Desertraider is throwing in teams who won in 2003 and prior, not sure why.

[wally_wabash]

It's a time warp.  I'm guessing we're looking back to 1993 on the purple thing?  The data are pretty irrefutable. 

Wabash was almost purple waaaay back in the day.  That should count. 

[USee]

Actually, 100% of the champions since 2003 wore purple. Desertraider is throwing in teams who won in 2003 and prior, not sure why.

amended. +K

[emma17]

Too many of you choose to ignore the actual statements made, or give a pass to the arrogance of some on these boards. 
I, Emma 17, said Mt isn't as well prepared to play against the best teams because of the horrific competition in the OAC.  I stand by that 100%.   

Un-measurable. I call BS. Stand by it 50, 100 or 150%. It's not provable either way. This is a subjective statement that simply cannot be measured. Be accountable and BE SPECIFIC. The OAC doesn't play anyone else but themselves so we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or Wilma crushes St Johns. It's all speculation. Not to mention the possibilty of other reasons that has already been entered but subjectively disregarded (That Mt Union plays UWW every year for 10 years so should be fully prepared or that they have a new coach with different experience than the predecessor)

Oh this is good.
Let's play then.  Prove that UWW's O line was better than Mt's O Line. 
Please prove your statement of "You don't win titles without controlling the line of scrimmage".

[Desertraider]

Actually, 100% of the champions since 2003 wore purple. Desertraider is throwing in teams who won in 2003 and prior, not sure why.

I know why!! Because I was not paying attention to what I was doing. I actually typed in 1993 (the year I meant to type here) into the piece I was actually working on. Caught that one though.

[USee]

Too many of you choose to ignore the actual statements made, or give a pass to the arrogance of some on these boards. 
I, Emma 17, said Mt isn't as well prepared to play against the best teams because of the horrific competition in the OAC.  I stand by that 100%.   

Un-measurable. I call BS. Stand by it 50, 100 or 150%. It's not provable either way. This is a subjective statement that simply cannot be measured. Be accountable and BE SPECIFIC. The OAC doesn't play anyone else but themselves so we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or Wilma crushes St Johns. It's all speculation. Not to mention the possibilty of other reasons that has already been entered but subjectively disregarded (That Mt Union plays UWW every year for 10 years so should be fully prepared or that they have a new coach with different experience than the predecessor)

Oh this is good.
Let's play then.  Prove that UWW's O line was better than Mt's O Line. 
Please prove your statement of "You don't win titles without controlling the line of scrimmage".

First, I don't need to prove it because it's my opinion.  The difference Is you said everyone else with that opinion is wrong.  You can't prove we are wrong and you declaring it doesn't make it so.  I made no such declaration.  Second, we do have data on my opinion.  We can watch the tape together, which I would be happy to do, and see it because it happened.  But these " tougher games" are much more subjective because the OAC doesn't play anyone else so that declaration is un-measurable.  So You and I can sit in a room and watch the tape of Stagg Bowls to see the performance in the trenches.  I'll bring the videos and the popcorn.  What will you bring?

[badgerwarhawk]

Too many of you choose to ignore the actual statements made, or give a pass to the arrogance of some on these boards. 
I, Emma 17, said Mt isn't as well prepared to play against the best teams because of the horrific competition in the OAC.  I stand by that 100%.   

Un-measurable. I call BS. Stand by it 50, 100 or 150%. It's not provable either way. This is a subjective statement that simply cannot be measured. Be accountable and BE SPECIFIC. The OAC doesn't play anyone else but themselves so we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or Wilma crushes St Johns. It's all speculation. Not to mention the possibilty of other reasons that has already been entered but subjectively disregarded (That Mt Union plays UWW every year for 10 years so should be fully prepared or that they have a new coach with different experience than the predecessor)

Oh this is good.
Let's play then.  Prove that UWW's O line was better than Mt's O Line. 
Please prove your statement of "You don't win titles without controlling the line of scrimmage".

First, I don't need to prove it because it's my opinion.  The difference Is you said everyone else with that opinion is wrong.  You can't prove we are wrong and you declaring it doesn't make it so.  I made no such declaration.  Second, we do have data on my opinion.  We can watch the tape together, which I would be happy to do, and see it because it happened.  But these " tougher games" are much more subjective because the OAC doesn't play anyone else so that declaration is un-measurable.  So You and I can sit in a room and watch the tape of Stagg Bowls to see the performance in the trenches.  I'll bring the videos and the popcorn.  What will you bring?

The objectivity. 

Sometimes I just can't help myself.

[mr_mom]

Traditional Friday reminder to get yer picks in.

[emma17]

Too many of you choose to ignore the actual statements made, or give a pass to the arrogance of some on these boards. 
I, Emma 17, said Mt isn't as well prepared to play against the best teams because of the horrific competition in the OAC.  I stand by that 100%.   

Un-measurable. I call BS. Stand by it 50, 100 or 150%. It's not provable either way. This is a subjective statement that simply cannot be measured. Be accountable and BE SPECIFIC. The OAC doesn't play anyone else but themselves so we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or Wilma crushes St Johns. It's all speculation. Not to mention the possibilty of other reasons that has already been entered but subjectively disregarded (That Mt Union plays UWW every year for 10 years so should be fully prepared or that they have a new coach with different experience than the predecessor)

Oh this is good.
Let's play then.  Prove that UWW's O line was better than Mt's O Line. 
Please prove your statement of "You don't win titles without controlling the line of scrimmage".

First, I don't need to prove it because it's my opinion.  The difference Is you said everyone else with that opinion is wrong.  You can't prove we are wrong and you declaring it doesn't make it so.  I made no such declaration.  Second, we do have data on my opinion.  We can watch the tape together, which I would be happy to do, and see it because it happened.  But these " tougher games" are much more subjective because the OAC doesn't play anyone else so that declaration is un-measurable.  So You and I can sit in a room and watch the tape of Stagg Bowls to see the performance in the trenches.  I'll bring the videos and the popcorn.  What will you bring?

I just realized I missed something you said- and had I read it closely I would have stopped discussing anything serious with you.  You actually said "we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or if Wilma crushes St. John's".  I'm sorry your years of following football leave you without an idea as to what the results would be of those games. This has gone to the level of quarantine.

[pg04]

The tone of condescension has seemingly raised to an unfriendly and dare I say disrespectful level.

[USee]

Too many of you choose to ignore the actual statements made, or give a pass to the arrogance of some on these boards. 
I, Emma 17, said Mt isn't as well prepared to play against the best teams because of the horrific competition in the OAC.  I stand by that 100%.   

Un-measurable. I call BS. Stand by it 50, 100 or 150%. It's not provable either way. This is a subjective statement that simply cannot be measured. Be accountable and BE SPECIFIC. The OAC doesn't play anyone else but themselves so we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or Wilma crushes St Johns. It's all speculation. Not to mention the possibilty of other reasons that has already been entered but subjectively disregarded (That Mt Union plays UWW every year for 10 years so should be fully prepared or that they have a new coach with different experience than the predecessor)

Oh this is good.
Let's play then.  Prove that UWW's O line was better than Mt's O Line. 
Please prove your statement of "You don't win titles without controlling the line of scrimmage".

First, I don't need to prove it because it's my opinion.  The difference Is you said everyone else with that opinion is wrong.  You can't prove we are wrong and you declaring it doesn't make it so.  I made no such declaration.  Second, we do have data on my opinion.  We can watch the tape together, which I would be happy to do, and see it because it happened.  But these " tougher games" are much more subjective because the OAC doesn't play anyone else so that declaration is un-measurable.  So You and I can sit in a room and watch the tape of Stagg Bowls to see the performance in the trenches.  I'll bring the videos and the popcorn.  What will you bring?

I just realized I missed something you said- and had I read it closely I would have stopped discussing anything serious with you.  You actually said "we don't have any idea if Otterbein beats UWO or if Wilma crushes St. John's".  I'm sorry your years of following football leave you without an idea as to what the results would be of those games. This has gone to the level of quarantine.

Aaahh yes, the easy way out.  Guerilla warfare at its best. 

[purple]

 Yes the competition is terrible in the OAC this year. However, this may be the best group of receivers Mount Union has ever had. Roman Namdar and that Kennedy kid are both first team All Americans. Mix in a very talented group of rookies and it's more than any D-3 team can handle. I don't think anyone expected Tauice Scott to bloom into an All-American either. These guys will obliterate everybody they play until the semi finals,where the big dogs come out. Except in the Wisconsin Cheese Eater Conference, where there are a couple + really good teams, Mount's offense would be doing the same thing in any other conference. Oh and I am so happy we end the year with BWC and JCU. There is still plenty of bad blood and hard feelings, and I hope VK lets the boys loose on them.

[Dr. Acula]

Namdar is definitely an AA level WR.  Kennedy is probably an AA punt returner, but not WR, IMO.  He can develop into one, but I just don't think he's there yet. What he is though is a guy you can put in the slot and throw a quick slant to that ends up being a long TD.  He can fly.  Hargrove has started emerging as the clear #3.

My biggest concern with Scott was turnovers and he just hasn't done it.  Zero fumbles and 16-1 TD to INT.  That's fantastic for a first year starter and a credit to his ability to be smart with the ball from day 1.  Listening to the Wilm game I was happy to hear Downing complimenting Scott's accuracy, putting the ball on the money in stride, etc.  I think that's what we're all looking for first and foremost.  He was 11-12 so I want to see how today goes.  If he can start stringing together a few accurate games it'll be good for his confidence (and ours). 

[D O.C.]

Otterbein beats UWO

Not if they're down to #1 0-50 in the 2nd quarter.

[raiderpa]

Namdar is an All American, Kennedy is an outstanding possession receiver.  What scares me about Mount QB is that he has not had to throw under any pressure.  Many QB's can make all the throws and be very accurate when they do not fear any pressure from the opponent d-line.  That is where the pretenders are separated, under intense heat.  He has scrambled and made some plays, however, he has not been forced to stay in the pocket and pass under duress.  Maybe he can avoid that, but that is what I fear most down the road when Mount plays somebody with the players to heat him up.