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WRMUalum13

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Quote from: merlecanlas on February 26, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on February 23, 2018, 04:02:18 PM
I immediately regret breaking that post up and creating difficult formatting obstacles.  I'm really sorry for inviting that catastrophe. 

Quote from: merlecanlas on February 23, 2018, 02:49:45 PM
maybe those teams should try to schedule years in advance, or stop being lauded for their tough schedule

We don't know that they aren't trying to get out ahead of their schedule.  It comes off that way because they seem to be scrambling to find opponents every year, but I don't have hard evidence that they deliberately put this off.  They probably don't.  It's just THAT hard for Oshkosh to get people to say yes.  I know you refuse to believe that, but that's the deal. 

As for the second part, the WIACs could play exclusively their league schedule and nobody else at all and have played one of the most rugged schedules in D3.  Stop asserting that adding a game like Finlandia or VA-Lynchburg invalidates the rest of the schedule.  It doesn't.  The NCAA's SOS metric is wrong for not factoring that in somehow, but let's not pretend that Oshkosh or any of the WIACs don't go through difficult regular seasons.   

They absolutely play a tough conference schedule.  The WIAC is one hell of a conference.  You are also 100% right that the SOS metric is wrong for not including "schools" like VA-Lynchburg.  The bottom part of the OAC would smoke some of the non-D3 OOC teams that the top of D3 has been playing lately.

Mount gets punished (SOS) for playing their conference opponents that suck, but other D3 "powers" get a pass for playing basically a YMCA football team.  That's my gripe.

If Luke Poorman is leaving, I hope he goes to a D2 school like Dom.  Poorman can play, and I don't want Mount to have to face him in the playoffs

To be honest wouldn't Walsh be an ideal location? I mean he knows he consistently bested Dom on the depth chart... that just feels cruel to do to a former teammate though.

Also Merle... sos has rarely affected Mount in the playoffs, last year they had to play at UWO in the semis because UWO went farther in the 2016 playoffs. I honestly can't remember a time that SOS has actually negatively affected Mount.

pradierguy

Just woke up in a cold sweat after dreaming Caruso was recruiting Poorman. They might actually be able to win a meaningless game by 100 with him.

wally_wabash

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on February 27, 2018, 02:30:30 PM
Quote from: merlecanlas on February 26, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on February 23, 2018, 04:02:18 PM
I immediately regret breaking that post up and creating difficult formatting obstacles.  I'm really sorry for inviting that catastrophe. 

Quote from: merlecanlas on February 23, 2018, 02:49:45 PM
maybe those teams should try to schedule years in advance, or stop being lauded for their tough schedule

We don't know that they aren't trying to get out ahead of their schedule.  It comes off that way because they seem to be scrambling to find opponents every year, but I don't have hard evidence that they deliberately put this off.  They probably don't.  It's just THAT hard for Oshkosh to get people to say yes.  I know you refuse to believe that, but that's the deal. 

As for the second part, the WIACs could play exclusively their league schedule and nobody else at all and have played one of the most rugged schedules in D3.  Stop asserting that adding a game like Finlandia or VA-Lynchburg invalidates the rest of the schedule.  It doesn't.  The NCAA's SOS metric is wrong for not factoring that in somehow, but let's not pretend that Oshkosh or any of the WIACs don't go through difficult regular seasons.   

They absolutely play a tough conference schedule.  The WIAC is one hell of a conference.  You are also 100% right that the SOS metric is wrong for not including "schools" like VA-Lynchburg.  The bottom part of the OAC would smoke some of the non-D3 OOC teams that the top of D3 has been playing lately.

Mount gets punished (SOS) for playing their conference opponents that suck, but other D3 "powers" get a pass for playing basically a YMCA football team.  That's my gripe.

If Luke Poorman is leaving, I hope he goes to a D2 school like Dom.  Poorman can play, and I don't want Mount to have to face him in the playoffs

To be honest wouldn't Walsh be an ideal location? I mean he knows he consistently bested Dom on the depth chart... that just feels cruel to do to a former teammate though.

Also Merle... sos has rarely affected Mount in the playoffs, last year they had to play at UWO in the semis because UWO went farther in the 2016 playoffs. I honestly can't remember a time that SOS has actually negatively affected Mount.

It hasn't.  Ever.  But don't let facts get in the way of a good Mount-Union-gets-screwed rant. 
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buddy34

FWIW, poorman's father made this facebook post feb. 18

After much prayer and tons of discussion and meetings Luke has decided to leave Mount Union for numerous reasons.

This has been a really tough decision emotionally as he's invested 2.5 years in the team after leaving Orlando half way through his senior year of high school.

He's developed incredible friendships and earned the respect of his teammates, coaches and faculty. He's won a National Championship, thrown 6 TDS in a playoff game and as a Mount QB thrown 21 TDS with 1 INT while completing 73% of his passes. Not too shabby:-)...all while earning a 3.9 GPA in Finance and Economics.

Most of all he has been challenged to trust God, grow in character, and have a good attitude in the midst of some really difficult stuff.

SO proud of him for the class and dignity he has shown!

Whoever gets him will get a LEADER, a WINNER and a WARRIOR

WRMUalum13

Quote from: buddy34 on February 28, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
FWIW, poorman's father made this facebook post feb. 18

After much prayer and tons of discussion and meetings Luke has decided to leave Mount Union for numerous reasons.

This has been a really tough decision emotionally as he's invested 2.5 years in the team after leaving Orlando half way through his senior year of high school.

He's developed incredible friendships and earned the respect of his teammates, coaches and faculty. He's won a National Championship, thrown 6 TDS in a playoff game and as a Mount QB thrown 21 TDS with 1 INT while completing 73% of his passes. Not too shabby:-)...all while earning a 3.9 GPA in Finance and Economics.

Most of all he has been challenged to trust God, grow in character, and have a good attitude in the midst of some really difficult stuff.

SO proud of him for the class and dignity he has shown!

Whoever gets him will get a LEADER, a WINNER and a WARRIOR

Good to know... definitely hard to blame the guy, just hoping he goes somewhere outside the OAC.

emma17

I'd love to have Poorman at UWW, he fits the UWW style- as long as he qualifies academically of course.

HScoach

OAC rules require him to sit a year.  It won't be within the conference.
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Quote from: WRMUalum13 on February 28, 2018, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: buddy34 on February 28, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
FWIW, poorman's father made this facebook post feb. 18

After much prayer and tons of discussion and meetings Luke has decided to leave Mount Union for numerous reasons.

This has been a really tough decision emotionally as he's invested 2.5 years in the team after leaving Orlando half way through his senior year of high school.

He's developed incredible friendships and earned the respect of his teammates, coaches and faculty. He's won a National Championship, thrown 6 TDS in a playoff game and as a Mount QB thrown 21 TDS with 1 INT while completing 73% of his passes. Not too shabby:-)...all while earning a 3.9 GPA in Finance and Economics.

Most of all he has been challenged to trust God, grow in character, and have a good attitude in the midst of some really difficult stuff.

SO proud of him for the class and dignity he has shown!

Whoever gets him will get a LEADER, a WINNER and a WARRIOR

Good to know... definitely hard to blame the guy, just hoping he goes somewhere outside the OAC.

Not surprised, but I wish the best for him. Part of me wishes the staff would just go forward with him as the number one QB because nothing has been resolved with Fulford. If you put all of your hope in Fulford and the case isn't what you thought, UMU is in trouble.

Craft_Beermeister

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Quote from: emma17 on February 28, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
I'd love to have Poorman at UWW, he fits the UWW style- as long as he qualifies academically of course.

LOL qualifies academically? You know that if Luke decided to go to UWW he would raise the bar for UWW.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on February 28, 2018, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 28, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
I'd love to have Poorman at UWW, he fits the UWW style- as long as he qualifies academically of course.

LOL qualifies academically? You know that if Luke decided to go to UWW he would raise the bar for UWW.

3.9 GPA in Finance and Economics will mean just about every D-III school is qualified.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

merlecanlas

Quote from: buddy34 on February 28, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
FWIW, poorman's father made this facebook post feb. 18

After much prayer and tons of discussion and meetings Luke has decided to leave Mount Union for numerous reasons.

This has been a really tough decision emotionally as he's invested 2.5 years in the team after leaving Orlando half way through his senior year of high school.

He's developed incredible friendships and earned the respect of his teammates, coaches and faculty. He's won a National Championship, thrown 6 TDS in a playoff game and as a Mount QB thrown 21 TDS with 1 INT while completing 73% of his passes. Not too shabby:-)...all while earning a 3.9 GPA in Finance and Economics.

Most of all he has been challenged to trust God, grow in character, and have a good attitude in the midst of some really difficult stuff.

SO proud of him for the class and dignity he has shown!

Whoever gets him will get a LEADER, a WINNER and a WARRIOR

You guys are missing the most important part,  how many likes or retweets did papa poorman get for his post?

merlecanlas

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on February 27, 2018, 02:30:30 PM
Quote from: merlecanlas on February 26, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on February 23, 2018, 04:02:18 PM
I immediately regret breaking that post up and creating difficult formatting obstacles.  I'm really sorry for inviting that catastrophe. 

Quote from: merlecanlas on February 23, 2018, 02:49:45 PM
maybe those teams should try to schedule years in advance, or stop being lauded for their tough schedule

We don't know that they aren't trying to get out ahead of their schedule.  It comes off that way because they seem to be scrambling to find opponents every year, but I don't have hard evidence that they deliberately put this off.  They probably don't.  It's just THAT hard for Oshkosh to get people to say yes.  I know you refuse to believe that, but that's the deal. 

As for the second part, the WIACs could play exclusively their league schedule and nobody else at all and have played one of the most rugged schedules in D3.  Stop asserting that adding a game like Finlandia or VA-Lynchburg invalidates the rest of the schedule.  It doesn't.  The NCAA's SOS metric is wrong for not factoring that in somehow, but let's not pretend that Oshkosh or any of the WIACs don't go through difficult regular seasons.   

They absolutely play a tough conference schedule.  The WIAC is one hell of a conference.  You are also 100% right that the SOS metric is wrong for not including "schools" like VA-Lynchburg.  The bottom part of the OAC would smoke some of the non-D3 OOC teams that the top of D3 has been playing lately.

Mount gets punished (SOS) for playing their conference opponents that suck, but other D3 "powers" get a pass for playing basically a YMCA football team.  That's my gripe.

If Luke Poorman is leaving, I hope he goes to a D2 school like Dom.  Poorman can play, and I don't want Mount to have to face him in the playoffs

To be honest wouldn't Walsh be an ideal location? I mean he knows he consistently bested Dom on the depth chart... that just feels cruel to do to a former teammate though.

Also Merle... sos has rarely affected Mount in the playoffs, last year they had to play at UWO in the semis because UWO went farther in the 2016 playoffs. I honestly can't remember a time that SOS has actually negatively affected Mount.

I just want sub-D3 programs to be counted against D3 teams, and then maybe they wouldn't schedule them.  College of Faith, Middle Georgia, VA-Lynchburg have no business being on a top D3 program's schedule.  It's gross, but it's a bye week SOS wise

Pat Coleman

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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

kdets89

Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on February 28, 2018, 09:11:39 PM
Not surprised, but I wish the best for him. Part of me wishes the staff would just go forward with him as the number one QB because nothing has been resolved with Fulford. If you put all of your hope in Fulford and the case isn't what you thought, UMU is in trouble.

I'm surprised about the timing of Poorman's decision to leave.  I'd have expected him to transfer at the semester to participate in spring practice at another school, or participate in spring practice at Mount and make his decision in May.

My speculation is that Poorman leaving signals a few things:

  • The coaching staff is confident that 1) Fulford's legal situation is a non-issue, and 2) they can keep him academically eligible for the next two seasons.
  • Robert Powell may be planning to return as a backup rather than graduate (I'd heard he has the eligibility/credits to do either).
  • The coaching staff is confident that Jake Keeney and the incoming freshmen can be ready to provide depth if necessary, just like the freshman class in 2016.


Current depth chart is:
Fulford (SO)
Powell (SR - if he returns)
Keeney (FR)
Herron (FR)

Dr. Acula

Quote from: kdets89 on March 01, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: hsbsballcoach7 on February 28, 2018, 09:11:39 PM
Not surprised, but I wish the best for him. Part of me wishes the staff would just go forward with him as the number one QB because nothing has been resolved with Fulford. If you put all of your hope in Fulford and the case isn't what you thought, UMU is in trouble.

I'm surprised about the timing of Poorman's decision to leave.  I'd have expected him to transfer at the semester to participate in spring practice at another school, or participate in spring practice at Mount and make his decision in May.

My speculation is that Poorman leaving signals a few things:

  • The coaching staff is confident that 1) Fulford's legal situation is a non-issue, and 2) they can keep him academically eligible for the next two seasons.
  • Robert Powell may be planning to return as a backup rather than graduate (I'd heard he has the eligibility/credits to do either).
  • The coaching staff is confident that Jake Keeney and the incoming freshmen can be ready to provide depth if necessary, just like the freshman class in 2016.


Current depth chart is:
Fulford (SO)
Powell (SR - if he returns)
Keeney (FR)
Herron (FR)

I was curious about Keeney when I saw him on the playoff roster as a freshman.  That's a nice feather in the cap that the coaches see something there.