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bluestreak66

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on October 08, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Or maybe, just maybe, you get to have the Catholics of NE Ohio (and Chicago) make a trek up to the Twin Cities for a JCU-UST Match-up.

While a long way to go before I can even plan a potential semi-final run, I would love the chance to play SJU or UST sometime in the playoff's!

I would love that! Get your boys to run the table and we'll see what we can do about that. I'm happy to lower myself to drink a beer with somebody from a lesser Catholic school. I've done it with the St John's folks in the past ;)
That's a clown statement bro
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Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on October 08, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Or maybe, just maybe, you get to have the Catholics of NE Ohio (and Chicago) make a trek up to the Twin Cities for a JCU-UST Match-up.

While a long way to go before I can even plan a potential semi-final run, I would love the chance to play SJU or UST sometime in the playoff's!

I would love that! Get your boys to run the table and we'll see what we can do about that. I'm happy to lower myself to drink a beer with somebody from a lesser Catholic school. I've done it with the St John's folks in the past ;)
That's a clown statement bro

But I used a winky face! ;) ;) I thought if I used a winky face I could say anything provocative that I wanted :P

bluestreak66

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on October 08, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: miac952 on October 08, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: HScoach on October 08, 2018, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 06, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
The attempt failed because God stepped in and asked "Seriously?"

The attempt failed because St. Thomas never even intended for it to be an attempt. And yes, that's inflammatory language.

It's not even really good spin, honestly. :)

The real problem isn't the 1 or 2 points after.  It's the 6 points scored before it.

St. Glenn has rightfully earned his reputation in this regard.

This is rich coming on the cusp of a Mount 63-7 win. Not much can be done when there is a 5TH STRING rb going off tackle. Take your shots with Glen, but this isn't one of them. No different than countless Mount examples of an overmatched opponent getting rolled by 4th and 5th stringers with simple running plays.

The unwritten rules work differently when it involves somebody that you've already determined you don't like.

I'm just glad we can shift a bit of banter to the OAC board and keep the MIAC a bit cleaner to recognize Gagliardi's legacy... at least for a bit, I'm sure the rhetoric will ramp up as the week goes on. I had a buddy in town this weekend that lives in eastern Ohio (about 1.5 hours from Alliance). If all the stars align and UST faces Mount in Alliance for a semifinal matchup, we gathered the wife's permission for me to fly out and spend the weekend with him and attend the game. Here's hoping. There's a few (ok, maybe just a couple or maybe just MUC57) classy Mount Union posters on here that I'd love to meet and share a beer with.  :) ;)

Or maybe, just maybe, you get to have the Catholics of NE Ohio (and Chicago) make a trek up to the Twin Cities for a JCU-UST Match-up.

While a long way to go before I can even plan a potential semi-final run, I would love the chance to play SJU or UST sometime in the playoff's!

I would love that! Get your boys to run the table and we'll see what we can do about that. I'm happy to lower myself to drink a beer with somebody from a lesser Catholic school. I've done it with the St John's folks in the past ;)
That's a clown statement bro

But I used a winky face! ;) ;) I thought if I used a winky face I could say anything provocative that I wanted :P
Well I guess you have me there lol
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jamtod

Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 12:32:21 PM

That's a clown statement bro

But I used a winky face! ;) ;) I thought if I used a winky face I could say anything provocative that I wanted :P
Well I guess you have me there lol

I have no reason to think negative things about John Carroll, tbh. I know a guy whose parents went there and might have come across a few others in my time.

miac952

Quote from: Evergreen14 on October 08, 2018, 12:14:01 PM
Just want to point out I am speculating the current top four ranked teams finish unbeaten. Do you see UMHB and St. Thomas on one side of the bracket and thus could potentially meet in the semifinals in Belton, and Brockport and Mount Union on the other side of the bracket and meeting in the semifinals in Alliance? Pat, your thoughts?

Seems like, and I am assuming here, the committee may not want another UMHB-Brockport semifinal. Travel from Brockport is closest to Alliance. Again, thoughts for debate.

All dependent on this week for the Tommie Johnnie showdown, but I am guessing you are spot-on at the moment. Will also be interesting to see how Whitewater finishes up. Two typically strong west teams are a little down this year in UWO and Linfield. The Johnnies also have an interesting final week matchup against Thomas More that could muck things up too.

JCUStreaks70

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 08, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: bluestreak66 on October 08, 2018, 12:32:21 PM

That's a clown statement bro

But I used a winky face! ;) ;) I thought if I used a winky face I could say anything provocative that I wanted :P
Well I guess you have me there lol

I have no reason to think negative things about John Carroll, tbh. I know a guy whose parents went there and might have come across a few others in my time.

That's because there are no negative things about John Carroll! lol ;)
AMDG

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hsbsballcoach7

I could see Mount Union, UMHB, winner of ST/SJ game and Brockport (but don't count out Frostburg State with their win over Wesley). Even UWW would have to be considered if they go undefeated in the WIAC. Should be another good one in the playoffs! Lots of excitement.

edward de vere

If Whitewater goes undefeated it HAS to get a #1 seed. 

wally_wabash

Quote from: edward de vere on October 08, 2018, 04:00:24 PM
If Whitewater goes undefeated it HAS to get a #1 seed.

I feel like it would be super difficult to not give an undefeated WIAC champion one of the top seeds.  But then who doesn't get one?  St. Thomas/St. John's or Brockport.  Both have the advantage of deep tournament runs last year when the committee digs in on the seeding process.  If it plays out that way, it's going to be such a hard decision to make. 
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miac952

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: edward de vere on October 08, 2018, 04:00:24 PM
If Whitewater goes undefeated it HAS to get a #1 seed.

I feel like it would be super difficult to not give an undefeated WIAC champion one of the top seeds.  But then who doesn't get one?  St. Thomas/St. John's or Brockport.  Both have the advantage of deep tournament runs last year when the committee digs in on the seeding process.  If it plays out that way, it's going to be such a hard decision to make.

If it were to come down to Whitewater against UST/SJU for a 1 seed. They would have common opponents to point to. UST with Concordia and UWEC and SJU with Concordia and Stout.


JCUStreaks70

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: edward de vere on October 08, 2018, 04:00:24 PM
If Whitewater goes undefeated it HAS to get a #1 seed.

I feel like it would be super difficult to not give an undefeated WIAC champion one of the top seeds.  But then who doesn't get one?  St. Thomas/St. John's or Brockport.  Both have the advantage of deep tournament runs last year when the committee digs in on the seeding process.  If it plays out that way, it's going to be such a hard decision to make.

This would be a very difficult decision to make; but personally I think this is what DIII has needed! We are finally seeing much more parity at the top, where the 1 & 2 seeds will almost all be contenders... Well maybe not all, but at least it's not just a forgone conclusion who the Final 4 teams will be.
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jamtod

Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on October 08, 2018, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
Quote from: edward de vere on October 08, 2018, 04:00:24 PM
If Whitewater goes undefeated it HAS to get a #1 seed.

I feel like it would be super difficult to not give an undefeated WIAC champion one of the top seeds.  But then who doesn't get one?  St. Thomas/St. John's or Brockport.  Both have the advantage of deep tournament runs last year when the committee digs in on the seeding process.  If it plays out that way, it's going to be such a hard decision to make.

This would be a very difficult decision to make; but personally I think this is what DIII has needed! We are finally seeing much more parity at the top, where the 1 & 2 seeds will almost all be contenders... Well maybe not all, but at least it's not just a forgone conclusion who the Final 4 teams will be.

Agreed. That would be a tough decision between those 5. And the same logic that says you put Whitewater as a #1 seed over UST would suggest that UST should get one over Brockport (depending on how conference strength is viewed in comparison to last year's performance where Brockport went further than UST while Whitewater wasn't even in the playoffs.)

edward de vere

Brockport is a heckuva team with a  heckuva coach - but if I'm going to seed a 10-0 E8 team over a 9-0 WIAC team, well, that same E8 team better have gone 15-0 the previous year.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: edward de vere on October 08, 2018, 04:41:05 PM
Brockport is a heckuva team with a  heckuva coach - but if I'm going to seed a 10-0 E8 team over a 9-0 WIAC team, well, that same E8 team better have gone 15-0 the previous year.

Totally see what you're saying, but if you're considering 10-0 Brockport's 2017 performance, then you have to consider 9-0 UW-Whitewater's 2017 performance, because the committee will definitely do so.
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jamtod

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: edward de vere on October 08, 2018, 04:41:05 PM
Brockport is a heckuva team with a  heckuva coach - but if I'm going to seed a 10-0 E8 team over a 9-0 WIAC team, well, that same E8 team better have gone 15-0 the previous year.

Totally see what you're saying, but if you're considering 10-0 Brockport's 2017 performance, then you have to consider 9-0 UW-Whitewater's 2017 performance, because the committee will definitely do so.

7-3 UW-Whitewater's 2017 performance, you mean?