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HScoach

Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on December 08, 2018, 09:04:10 AM
Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
Quote from: edward de vere on December 07, 2018, 11:10:51 PM
Quote from: sigma one on December 07, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
Bull-puckey.  Let's get this straight once and for all.  Believe what you "will."  The plays of Shakespeare were written (passive voice, I know) by a guy named, yes, William Shakespeare.  Genius defies explanation, including literary genius.

I'm not talking genius; I'm talking knowledge.

Read the two books I mentioned.  You will see what I mean.

Hmmm.  I think we're now quite far afield from D3 football. . . .

All this talk about literature reminds me why I'm so grateful to have chosen engineering.  Yikes.

HScoach

Did you actually choose engineering or was it chosen for you?  In the early 70s in high school I excelled in math, chemistry, and physics so when I met with guidance counselors they said engineering is what you should consider taking in college and handed me a booklet on Chemical Engineering.  As I think back on that time, the booklet was probably fairly dated because it had a lot of pictures of elderly men with crew cuts.  In anyway, after that meeting with the counselors  I was focused on this chemical engineering profession though I didn't know much about it at that time. 

I had a couple bumps in the road on my way to finding a college.  I was part of a program at Kent State that invited top students from local high schools for a full day exam for a chance at a full ride scholarship to KSU.  While KSU staff had you on campus they put you through a career fair where they tried to help you select a degree program with the goal of getting you on the way to applying at KSU. At the career fair when they asked me my interest I told them Chemical Engineering and they quickly responded "Oh you must mean Chemistry". I responded I didn't think so.  For several minutes they tried to convince me that a degree in Chemistry was in my future. I'm not sure back then I knew what Chemical Engineering was but I knew it was not Chemistry and KSU was off my list.

Months latter I visited YSU and they knew what Chemical Engineering was.  They shared a lot of information on Chemical Engineering and it began to make a lot of sense.  Shortly after that visit I soon applied at YSU  and was accepted. I ended up getting married before my sophomore year which made things a bit interesting though I ended up at the top of my class. With my college transcripts most of the companies I talked to upon graduation wanted me to go into a management program that moved individuals multiple times every  3 to 6 months across the country at their multiple sites before settling into a position. Having a young family this approach wasn't attractive to me so I interviewed with other companies trying to convince them I wasn't over qualified.  This strategy worked and now I'm managing other engineers for projects around the country with a handful of projects overseas.  I'm glad someone nudged towards Chemical Engineering.

I definitely chose engineering.  I worked as a plumber/electrician before going to college and wanted to focus on the engineering (active) side of science instead of study/research side of science like pure chemistry or physics.   I actually started out as an electrical but switched to civil after flunking circuits.  Looking back that failure was more do to spending my time chasing a certain blonde that is now my wife and partying.  But at the time, it was of course the electrical curriculum's fault....   Anyway, I headed to Akron U bent on avoiding language, literature and especially foreign language classes.  So when it came time to select a major the first time and then change out of electrical I started by only considering the major with the absolute least language type crap in it, which is engineering.  I picked civil after dropping electrical simply because civil had only 2 credits of thermodynamics, mechanical had 16.  Civil Engineering it is!
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

HScoach

Quote from: USee on December 08, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
Hey Purple,

Just so we are all looking at the facts and not just conjecture, here are the season stats of the 2 QB's in your arguments:

Fulford:
161-245, 66%, 2,433 yds, 35 TD's, 2 INTS

Rutter:
269-385, 70%, 3,539 yds, 30 TD's, 3 INTS

MT Union is 62% Run and 38% Pass, NCC is 65% Run and 35% pass.

Competition tougher? Let's look. According to HansenRatings current full D3 Rankings:

Mt Union (#2 HansenRating) has played the following teams:
#12 Muhlenberg
#13 Centre
#14 JCU
#33 Baldwin Wallace

North Central (#9 HansenRating) has played:
#4 Bethel
#5 Wheaton
#20 IWU
#40 Carthage

If you don't like HansenRatings, let's look at the D3.Com top 25:

Mt Union has played current #8 JCU, #24 Muhlenberg and #24 Centre. Fulfords stats against those teams:

30-71, 42%, 299 yds, 4 TD's 1 INT

North Central has played current #11 Bethel, #14 IWU, #22 Wheaton. Rutter's stats against those teams:

66-103, 64%, 975 yds, 4 TD's 2 INT

Everyone can make their own conclusions from this data (or pick other data to suit you) but I think its fair to say both these guys played top competition this year and are both excellent quarterbacks. The choice must have been difficult but it sure seems to me that Rutter has been a bit more consistent this year than Fulford.


Usee,

It's wasted breath trying to reason with a lawyer.  His agenda won't be stopped by logic, reason and performance on the field.   

He's a victim of my tag line.
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

shepherd

FYI
ESPN has the Mount Union vs Johns Hopkins game listed as DII instead of D3.  To find it I went to espn selected the football picture and the two games were there!
Here is hoping for two great D3 games. Good Luck!

Craft_Beermeister

ESPN camera crew was in the Dom Capers pressbox earlier today filming a 10 second close up of last year's national championships trophy for there telecast. I told the cameraman to take a video of the wall of replica championship rings but he said he was told he had to be neutral.

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Kieth on Twitter:

Mount Union sports information says WRs Jared Ruth and Cole Moxie will not play today but QB D'Angelo Fulford had a full week of practice. #d3fb
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edward de vere

Quote from: HScoach on December 08, 2018, 11:10:55 AM

It's wasted breath trying to reason with a lawyer.  His agenda won't be stopped by logic, reason and performance on the field.   


Or, as Carl Sandburg put it:  "If the facts are against you, argue the law.  If the law is against you, argue the facts.  If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell."

Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: purple on December 08, 2018, 08:28:30 AM
Today we will see why I contend this years defense is one of, if not the best, Mount has ever had.. I don't see the touchdowns figured in the defensive statistics. Obviously, there should be some "factoring in", of the fact Mounts defense has produced 13 touchdowns. It is certainly relevant to my, "best ever" claim.
I expect also to see DeAngelo Fulford have a good day. However, a lot depends on the weather and the game plan. His QB rating, just like last year is at the top of D3. A fact that is studiously ignored by the pundits who picked the all region team. Fulford has played against much, much better competition too.
I imagine Fulford won't even make Honorable Mention this year on the All-American team by D3Football, just like last year when he was clearly the best quarterback in the nation playing in D3. I don't know why Mount doesn't let Pat talk to the players, but I sure wouldn't if they slighted one of my best players like that.

I agree that the key for Mount Union today will be their defense.  Fulford is still playing on one wheel a d gutting it out without his top receiver.

mr_mom

Damn ... they fixed the microphone problem in the booth.  I was enjoying listening to the game noise without the yakking.   :(
Never underestimate the stimulation of eccentricity.

BoBo

Quote from: mr_mom on December 08, 2018, 12:11:17 PM
Damn ... they fixed the microphone problem in the booth.  I was enjoying listening to the game noise without the yakking.   :(

Ditto...
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

02 Warhawk


mucgrad06

ankle looked good, and nice opening drive!

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

How does a WR get that Wide Open in a National Semifinal game????
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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

How many times will announcer say "zone read" today?
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archgemini24

Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on December 08, 2018, 12:03:59 PM
Quote from: purple on December 08, 2018, 08:28:30 AM
Today we will see why I contend this years defense is one of, if not the best, Mount has ever had.. I don't see the touchdowns figured in the defensive statistics. Obviously, there should be some "factoring in", of the fact Mounts defense has produced 13 touchdowns. It is certainly relevant to my, "best ever" claim.
I expect also to see DeAngelo Fulford have a good day. However, a lot depends on the weather and the game plan. His QB rating, just like last year is at the top of D3. A fact that is studiously ignored by the pundits who picked the all region team. Fulford has played against much, much better competition too.
I imagine Fulford won't even make Honorable Mention this year on the All-American team by D3Football, just like last year when he was clearly the best quarterback in the nation playing in D3. I don't know why Mount doesn't let Pat talk to the players, but I sure wouldn't if they slighted one of my best players like that.

I agree that the key for Mount Union today will be their defense.  Fulford is still playing on one wheel a d gutting it out without his top receiver.

On que, a bunch of short field stops and a pick-6. Fox mentioned that they should have taken the points both times. Now instead of 7-6 it's 14-0...