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Craft_Beermeister

Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

Update on Cory Barnett in 2nd half he had short field goals with two occurring on first down and two on third down.

mr_mom

Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

Live Stats indicates that Max Righetti hit that last goal, not Barnett.
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Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: mr_mom on October 19, 2019, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

Live Stats indicates that Max Righetti hit that last goal, not Barnett.

You are correct. I just saw a correction on Twitter that indicated that Cory Barnett only had 5 FGs.  Though it did indicate that with 5 FGs, 6 PATs Cory set the @NCAADIII record for kicking points in a game with 21.

mr_mom

Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
You are correct. I just saw a correction on Twitter that indicated that Cory Barnett only had 5 FGs.  Though it did indicate that with 5 FGs, 6 PATs Cory set the @NCAADIII record for kicking points in a game with 21.

Nice catch!
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Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

While I like that Mt. Union didn't run up the score intentionally, I'm not sure this is actually any better for Capital's moral. Field goal being kicked on first down and pick 6s being ran OB has to be pretty dang demoralizing, I think more so than seeing 100 dropped. Put in the worst players you have dressed and run dives up the middle. If they can't stop that then 100 points seems like destiny.
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Quote from: Jameswys on October 19, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

While I like that Mt. Union didn't run up the score intentionally, I'm not sure this is actually any better for Capital's moral. Field goal being kicked on first down and pick 6s being ran OB has to be pretty dang demoralizing, I think more so than seeing 100 dropped. Put in the worst players you have dressed and run dives up the middle. If they can't stop that then 100 points seems like destiny.

Yeah but the box score is what a lot of fans / school presidents  will see at the end of the day.. and seeing 63-0 isn't really noteable... but UMU putting up 100 + would garner national attention and perhaps even negative comments from the rest of the conference. I'll bet UST might still be in the MIAC if there blowouts were only 60 or 70 points rather than 80 and 90.

e_lee

Quote from: Jameswys on October 19, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: Craft_Beermeister on October 19, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
Mount Union up 63-0 on Capital and trying not to run up the score by intentionally running out of bounds at 5 yard line on a potential pick 6 with no Capital player within tackling distance.  Mount has also elected to kick field goals on 3rd down or less when they get too close to goal line.  The result of this is Mount Union kicker Cory Barnett just tied early in 4th quarter the NCAA Division III record with 6 field goals today.

While I like that Mt. Union didn't run up the score intentionally, I'm not sure this is actually any better for Capital's moral. Field goal being kicked on first down and pick 6s being ran OB has to be pretty dang demoralizing, I think more so than seeing 100 dropped. Put in the worst players you have dressed and run dives up the middle. If they can't stop that then 100 points seems like destiny.

My thoughts exactly.  But with the terrible team Cap has put out we don't get any say in how we get beat.

That being said, 69-0 woulda been cool.
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e_lee

Went back and read the last few pages.  What's happening to Cap, the OAC in general, and other conferences isn't surprising, when you consider many of the factors y'all brought up.  So many D2 schools have added football.  That thins the talent pool.  Participation in high school football is decreasing. That thins the talent pool.  Costs of higher education, especially for a private school are sky rocketing. That thins the talent pool.

It would appear we are currently in the middle of seeing the "market" correct itself. A few tradition rich, forward thinking schools are reaping the benefit, much like the wealthy can stay the course during a stock market crash.  It appears JCU and MUC(I know it's UMU or MTU or something, but I'm an old school poster going back 20 years on "Post Patterns" and "Posting Up") are as strong as ever.
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Desertraider

I really don't think Caps morale really figured in the decision. I said it before - I think the game gets to a point (at 48-0) in the 2nd when Mount decides to practice what they needed work on. The missed some kicks the last couple weeks - so work the kicker(s). They kicked FGs of 22 (2), 23 (2), 25 (1) and 27 (1) yards. We all know that is actually 42 points Mount gave up. But they got more work with special teams (snaps, holds, kicks) that they needed. Scoring TDs - they didn't need more practice on that. They got A TON of kids on the field. I feel bad for CAP - I have been on that side of the score. It stings no matter what the other team does (FGs, TDs, run out of bounds). The only thing that makes it better is scoring - anything - which CAP couldn't do. 

This isnt meant to disrespect CAP (or OTT, Wilma......) but we all see the games. Mount doesn't just stop playing (and they shouldn't). They just work on other things. The post game coaches meeting has to be more than "we saw that we are better than them". Now its about the kicking game, transition to special teams on field, snap consistency. May as well learn a bit about your team.
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Quote from: desertraider on October 19, 2019, 08:36:16 PM
I really don't think Caps morale really figured in the decision. I said it before - I think the game gets to a point (at 48-0) in the 2nd when Mount decides to practice what they needed work on. The missed some kicks the last couple weeks - so work the kicker(s). They kicked FGs of 22 (2), 23 (2), 25 (1) and 27 (1) yards. We all know that is actually 42 points Mount gave up. But they got more work with special teams (snaps, holds, kicks) that they needed. Scoring TDs - they didn't need more practice on that. They got A TON of kids on the field. I feel bad for CAP - I have been on that side of the score. It stings no matter what the other team does (FGs, TDs, run out of bounds). The only thing that makes it better is scoring - anything - which CAP couldn't do. 

This isnt meant to disrespect CAP (or OTT, Wilma......) but we all see the games. Mount doesn't just stop playing (and they shouldn't). They just work on other things. The post game coaches meeting has to be more than "we saw that we are better than them". Now its about the kicking game, transition to special teams on field, snap consistency. May as well learn a bit about your team.

It is what it is, but wouldn't they have gotten reps with snaps and holds on PATs?  Glad they worked on running out of bounds on a would be Pick six.
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mr_mom

It isn't reflected in the stats because they didn't all throw a pass, but didn't I hear the announcers say that MUC played four or five QBs today?  How "low" do you expect to go?
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Dr. Acula

Quote from: mr_mom on October 19, 2019, 09:05:56 PM
It isn't reflected in the stats because they didn't all throw a pass, but didn't I hear the announcers say that MUC played four or five QBs today?  How "low" do you expect to go?

Six QB's took a snap today.  Fulford, Plunk, Moore, Keeney, Sturgill and Homol.

Dr. Acula

If I'm going to summarize today it'd basically be Justin Hill is really, really good and Cap is really, really bad.

Honestly, I felt bad for Cap.  They're just so over matched 1-22 they cannot compete right now.  And I'm not talking about today because a lot of teams end up in that spot in Alliance.  I mean in general.  Their scores are just painful.  I watched their 66-7 opener against Westminster and I think I even posted then that it was gonna be a long year in Bexley.  Well, it's gonna be a long more than a year.  They aren't even close.  They haven't scored more than 7 points in a game.  And listening to 1310 TJ brought up a good point asking how many of these kids can you convince to come back out for football next year if you just get pounded every week.  So then you're piling retention issues on top of the difficulty of recruiting new kids to come play for a team losing (on avg.) 60-5 every week.  I hope they get back on track because it's not good for anyone to have teams that down in the conference.

As for Mount, well what can you really take away from a game against the subject of that prior paragraph?  Fulford and the gang did what they should have done.  Hill was wide open multiple times.  They couldn't even leave Plunk in when he relieved Fulford because he was shredding Cap.  Back up WR's Lee and Kirchner are ripping off long plays.  As I posted before the game, thankfully this was a home game so there were tons of kids dressed today.  All you can do is work on some things, get out of there healthy and move on.