FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[WRMUalum13]

On a semi related note, the Massey computer ranking favors Mount Union against NCC and currently has them ranked #1 in the country. For a computer ranking I think Massey is pretty good. it got 15/15 round 1 games and was pretty Bullish on JHU.

Massey had the Mount JHU game as #1 vs #7

The only thing weird about Massey is the NESCAC rankings, but I think it's an artifact of the fact those teams only play each other.

Prediction for Massey for Mount vs Muhlenberg is 34-21, which is almost exactly what I would guess.


Actually in terms of predictions, it looks like Massey is beating the D3Fb top 25 poll in the playoffs so far. It correctly picked JHU to beat Salisbury and Muhlenberg to beat Del Valley and had the rest of the picks the same as D3Fb

[D3fanboy]

On a semi related note, the Massey computer ranking favors Mount Union against NCC and currently has them ranked #1 in the country. For a computer ranking I think Massey is pretty good. it got 15/15 round 1 games and was pretty Bullish on JHU.

Massey had the Mount JHU game as #1 vs #7

The only thing weird about Massey is the NESCAC rankings, but I think it's an artifact of the fact those teams only play each other.

Prediction for Massey for Mount vs Muhlenberg is 34-21, which is almost exactly what I would guess.


Actually in terms of predictions, it looks like Massey is beating the D3Fb top 25 poll in the playoffs so far. It correctly picked JHU to beat Salisbury and Muhlenberg to beat Del Valley and had the rest of the picks the same as D3Fb

https://masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=358435&oid0=5199&h=-1&s1=358435&oid1=5523

NCC 35 Mount 34 @ NCC
Mount 34 NCC 31 @ Mount
Mount 34 NCC 31 Neutral

should be a great national championship game again

[WRMUalum13]

On a semi related note, the Massey computer ranking favors Mount Union against NCC and currently has them ranked #1 in the country. For a computer ranking I think Massey is pretty good. it got 15/15 round 1 games and was pretty Bullish on JHU.

Massey had the Mount JHU game as #1 vs #7

The only thing weird about Massey is the NESCAC rankings, but I think it's an artifact of the fact those teams only play each other.

Prediction for Massey for Mount vs Muhlenberg is 34-21, which is almost exactly what I would guess.


Actually in terms of predictions, it looks like Massey is beating the D3Fb top 25 poll in the playoffs so far. It correctly picked JHU to beat Salisbury and Muhlenberg to beat Del Valley and had the rest of the picks the same as D3Fb

https://masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=358435&oid0=5199&h=-1&s1=358435&oid1=5523

NCC 35 Mount 34 @ NCC
Mount 34 NCC 31 @ Mount
Mount 34 NCC 31 Neutral

should be a great national championship game again

oh yeah I forgot the home field advantage element, glad you provided the score predictions

[Dr. Acula]

I heard Bruce Feldman on the local radio here in Columbus today mentioning that Matt Campbell shouldn't be overlooked as a candidate for the ND job in addition to being a candidate for the Oklahoma job.

[WRMUalum13]

I heard Bruce Feldman on the local radio here in Columbus today mentioning that Matt Campbell shouldn't be overlooked as a candidate for the ND job in addition to being a candidate for the Oklahoma job.

He shouldn't be  overlooked for the Ohio State job either LOL

[Captainred81]

My thoughts: 

JHU
A)  I think JHU had a great game plan.  They nearly executed it.  I think going into the locker room at half down 3 was huge.  After half and they were down 17, the rest was to be expected.  They threw the ball all over the place in desperation and the Mount player made some big plays, but kept the score proximate. 
B)  I was glad to see Mount finish the game running the ball.  They were able to drive and drain clock late in the game, that shows me they can win against some of these other teams with more stout defenses. 

Mules
A)  They come to play fo sho... They hit hard, play smart and have talent.
B)  After watching their game against DV, I'm not sure they have the team speed that will be necessary to catch up and keep up with Mount.  They don't control the trenches as well as they did a few years ago, so slowing the game down and taking over doesn't seem to be in cards.  In the beginning, they may be able to dink and dunk their way to a few scores, but that will vanish as Mount makes the adjustments.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not overlooking them, but I don't think they have the overall fire power to win the game. 

North Central
A)  I watched the game against UWL and thought that La Cross had that game in there sites.  They many nervous mistakes (IMO) throughout the entire game.  Their best received dropped like 3 passes, one of which was an easy score.  I think they have elite talents at the skill positions, but the QB play is about 50% of what it was.  Maybe in 4 years Lehnen turns into Rutter, but right now, he will not be winning them games.  He can run for sure, but he does not have the pure throwing accuracy that wins close games late.  If a team can take away, or at least minimize the run game and require NCC to pass to win, I'm not they can. 

Other side of the Bracket
A)  Their defenses are better.  UWW, UMHB, LINFIELD are crazy tough defenses. 

Thanks for listening

[hazzben]

Did anyone else happen to look at JHU's two deep? I couldn't believe how big their front 7 was for a D3 team outside the WIAC.

6-4 235
6-2 230
6-2 245
6-3 220
6-3 220
6-3 220 (not at typo they had three guys with identical height and weight)
5-11 190

In comparison Mount's front 7 ( I know technically this might include hyrbrid DB / LBs but just for sake of comparison)

6-0 260
5-9 225
6-1 200
5-10 190
5-11 200
5-8 180
6-0 220

That doesn't seem huge to me for JHU. It does seem undersized for Mount though.

[WRMUalum13]

Did anyone else happen to look at JHU's two deep? I couldn't believe how big their front 7 was for a D3 team outside the WIAC.

6-4 235
6-2 230
6-2 245
6-3 220
6-3 220
6-3 220 (not at typo they had three guys with identical height and weight)
5-11 190

In comparison Mount's front 7 ( I know technically this might include hyrbrid DB / LBs but just for sake of comparison)

6-0 260
5-9 225
6-1 200
5-10 190
5-11 200
5-8 180
6-0 220

That doesn't seem huge to me for JHU. It does seem undersized for Mount though.

I just don't remember there being that many 6-2+ Linebackers in Division 3, that's D-1 size.

Here's Youngstown State's front 7.   6, they run a 3-3-5

6-3 225
6-1 195
6-4 245
6-2 270
6-0 295
6-2 230

I agree Mount does seem a little undersized, but that's just the way UMU defenses have been trending.

[D3fanboy]

Did anyone else happen to look at JHU's two deep? I couldn't believe how big their front 7 was for a D3 team outside the WIAC.

6-4 235
6-2 230
6-2 245
6-3 220
6-3 220
6-3 220 (not at typo they had three guys with identical height and weight)
5-11 190

In comparison Mount's front 7 ( I know technically this might include hyrbrid DB / LBs but just for sake of comparison)

6-0 260
5-9 225
6-1 200
5-10 190
5-11 200
5-8 180
6-0 220

That doesn't seem huge to me for JHU. It does seem undersized for Mount though.

I just don't remember there being that many 6-2+ Linebackers in Division 3, that's D-1 size.

Here's Youngstown State's front 7.   6, they run a 3-3-5

6-3 225
6-1 195
6-4 245
6-2 270
6-0 295
6-2 230

I agree Mount does seem a little undersized, but that's just the way UMU defenses have been trending.

Lol watch the film and say that Hill and Lilja are 225 and 200

[WRMUalum13]

Did anyone else happen to look at JHU's two deep? I couldn't believe how big their front 7 was for a D3 team outside the WIAC.

6-4 235
6-2 230
6-2 245
6-3 220
6-3 220
6-3 220 (not at typo they had three guys with identical height and weight)
5-11 190

In comparison Mount's front 7 ( I know technically this might include hyrbrid DB / LBs but just for sake of comparison)

6-0 260
5-9 225
6-1 200
5-10 190
5-11 200
5-8 180
6-0 220

That doesn't seem huge to me for JHU. It does seem undersized for Mount though.

I just don't remember there being that many 6-2+ Linebackers in Division 3, that's D-1 size.

Here's Youngstown State's front 7.   6, they run a 3-3-5

6-3 225
6-1 195
6-4 245
6-2 270
6-0 295
6-2 230

I agree Mount does seem a little undersized, but that's just the way UMU defenses have been trending.

Lol watch the film and say that Hill and Lilja are 225 and 200

I'm pretty bad at estimating weight but there listed heights look pretty close

[Raider 68]

Did anyone else happen to look at JHU's two deep? I couldn't believe how big their front 7 was for a D3 team outside the WIAC.

6-4 235
6-2 230
6-2 245
6-3 220
6-3 220
6-3 220 (not at typo they had three guys with identical height and weight)
5-11 190

In comparison Mount's front 7 ( I know technically this might include hyrbrid DB / LBs but just for sake of comparison)

6-0 260
5-9 225
6-1 200
5-10 190
5-11 200
5-8 180
6-0 220

That doesn't seem huge to me for JHU. It does seem undersized for Mount though.

I just don't remember there being that many 6-2+ Linebackers in Division 3, that's D-1 size.

Here's Youngstown State's front 7.   6, they run a 3-3-5

6-3 225
6-1 195
6-4 245
6-2 270
6-0 295
6-2 230

I agree Mount does seem a little undersized, but that's just the way UMU defenses have been trending.

Lol watch the film and say that Hill and Lilja are 225 and 200

I'm pretty bad at estimating weight but there listed heights look pretty close

Hill is 5'9 and weighs 275 not 225. I seen him close up a several games this season. #99 when rotating in is 6' 4 270.

[Captainred81]

No way Lilja and Hill aare less than 250...

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I watched most of the Muhlenberg vs Del Val game.  Looks like it was pretty windy blowing from Left to Right (on your radio dial).

I'm not real impressed with the Muhlenberg OL. I think Mount can get pressure.
I also don't think the Mules have enough overall team speed.
Their QB is another Lefty and throws a decent ball.  He has a ton of yards this year.
Twice in the Red Zone it looks like they ran a called QB Draw early in the set of downs and got decent yardage.
They ran RB Screen twice. First one was set up nice after a turnover but the RB dropped the pass.  The second one was in the 4th Q and was 3rd and long. They completed it but didn't get the first down.
They run a 3-4 Base Defense, but will sometimes adjust to a 4 man front on passing downs. They are good, but Mount has a lot of weapons to choose from and dudes to spread the ball around to.
Del Val was inside the 5 yard line twice with full sets of downs, but the Mules shut them down.

I think it will be a Mount Union Victory.  Not a huge blowout, but something like 35-14.

But I've been known to be wrong, just ask my wife.

[D3fanboy]

I watched most of the Muhlenberg vs Del Val game.  Looks like it was pretty windy blowing from Left to Right (on your radio dial).

I'm not real impressed with the Muhlenberg OL. I think Mount can get pressure.
I also don't think the Mules have enough overall team speed.
Their QB is another Lefty and throws a decent ball.  He has a ton of yards this year.
Twice in the Red Zone it looks like they ran a called QB Draw early in the set of downs and got decent yardage.
They ran RB Screen twice. First one was set up nice after a turnover but the RB dropped the pass.  The second one was in the 4th Q and was 3rd and long. They completed it but didn't get the first down.
They run a 3-4 Base Defense, but will sometimes adjust to a 4 man front on passing downs. They are good, but Mount has a lot of weapons to choose from and dudes to spread the ball around to.
Del Val was inside the 5 yard line twice with full sets of downs, but the Mules shut them down.

I think it will be a Mount Union Victory.  Not a huge blowout, but something like 35-14.

But I've been known to be wrong, just ask my wife.

I thought the DV-Mules game was being broadcast in slow motion for some reason

[Captainred81]

I watched the game too, and got bored.  it seemed like DV should have and could have taken control of that game, but played timid.  They are the most penalized team in the country, so maybe they were trying not hurt themselves.  Either way, I think that Mules are a well coached and disciplined team and will require Mount to execute.  I think if the execution that we have come to expect is there...it's gonna be a long day for the Mules.

On the flip, Mount will need to get pressure because this QB is every bit as good as JHU and will be throwing the ball a ton.