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2minuteO

havent been able to see Mount this season only listened to the Cap game.  It is hard to believe that Mounts D-line has gotten that much better with the departure of Buddy Wolfe.. Wolfe was probably the most athletic and powerful d-linemen I ever faced.. I even went against the likes of Jessie Wells and Antwan Dillard..  More power to Mount for finding someone to feel his shoes... He was pretty darn good..  Stickley on the other hand is good, but he plays with speed an quickness... Not much of a powerful player, but is very dangerous out on an island...

OU#25

Actually Jorris was 8 of 11...nearly 73% completion pct.
Mount has a very good offensive line considering two of the starters were injury replacements on Saturday. My point which you totally missed is that you still need to make smart plays as the QB and offensive leader of your team. 

Why would you think you could play QB at Mount?  It's that disrespect for Jorris that I won't let you slide into a conversation without pointing it out.

I guess you could start for Capital as well?  Since you brought it up...statistically it would be easier shoes for you to fill this season.

Jorris made smart throws and the throws necessary to move the chains....and no you could not play QB for Mount.  Jorris leads the nation in passing efficiency and will probably finish the season #1 in that category.  He threw twice in the second half because he did not need to throw more than that for Mount to completely dominate the game.  In fact, Rocky's TD's were both setup up via penalty.  Cap did not have one sustained drive the entire game. 

I'm guessing this is the first time you've seen Mount play this year and I can tell you that a playoff rematch would be as ugly or worse.  Mount's passing game could dominate CAP's defense ala Kmic...and if Kehres wanted to he could gameplay for Jorris to throw for 500 yards against you...does Jorris need to do that to get your attention?
"I think it's better to break a man's leg than his heart." - George Woolf in "Seabiscuit", 2003.

Desertraider

Quote from: OU#25 on October 30, 2006, 12:25:24 PM
Actually Jorris was 8 of 11...nearly 73% completion pct.
Mount has a very good offensive line considering two of the starters were injury replacements on Saturday. My point which you totally missed is that you still need to make smart plays as the QB and offensive leader of your team. 

Why would you think you could play QB at Mount?  It's that disrespect for Jorris that I won't let you slide into a conversation without pointing it out.

I guess you could start for Capital as well?  Since you brought it up...statistically it would be easier shoes for you to fill this season.

Jorris made smart throws and the throws necessary to move the chains....and no you could not play QB for Mount.  Jorris leads the nation in passing efficiency and will probably finish the season #1 in that category.  He threw twice in the second half because he did not need to throw more than that for Mount to completely dominate the game.  In fact, Rocky's TD's were both setup up via penalty.  Cap did not have one sustained drive the entire game. 

I'm guessing this is the first time you've seen Mount play this year and I can tell you that a playoff rematch would be as ugly or worse.  Mount's passing game could dominate CAP's defense ala Kmic...and if Kehres wanted to he could gameplay for Jorris to throw for 500 yards against you...does Jorris need to do that to get your attention?

Good point indeed. Why is it that when talking about QB's everyone rates them on how many yards they throw for or the number of attempts they have? Big Ben threw for 300+ yesterday against the Raiders but the Steelers still lost. Jorris threw when needed on Saturday and did not make mistakes - he did not force anything. What I find incredible is that even though Mount ran every down (except the 11 by Jorris and 1 by Garcon) CAP could not stop the run. They did not make the adjustments. If these two teams meet in the playoffs and Mount balances the attack - the results could be scary for CAP.
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Quote from: hscoach on October 30, 2006, 11:20:26 AM
Quote from: cufan on October 30, 2006, 10:40:40 AM

Great players excell in big games....


+ karma for you.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

I know we don't usually nitpick but you could both say it better simply by spelling "excel" correctly.   ;)
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OU#25

"I think it's better to break a man's leg than his heart." - George Woolf in "Seabiscuit", 2003.

crusader26

Quote from: OU#25 on October 30, 2006, 12:25:24 PM
Actually Jorris was 8 of 11...nearly 73% completion pct.
Mount has a very good offensive line considering two of the starters were injury replacements on Saturday. My point which you totally missed is that you still need to make smart plays as the QB and offensive leader of your team. 

Why would you think you could play QB at Mount?  It's that disrespect for Jorris that I won't let you slide into a conversation without pointing it out.

I guess you could start for Capital as well?  Since you brought it up...statistically it would be easier shoes for you to fill this season.

Jorris made smart throws and the throws necessary to move the chains....and no you could not play QB for Mount.  Jorris leads the nation in passing efficiency and will probably finish the season #1 in that category.  He threw twice in the second half because he did not need to throw more than that for Mount to completely dominate the game.  In fact, Rocky's TD's were both setup up via penalty.  Cap did not have one sustained drive the entire game. 

I'm guessing this is the first time you've seen Mount play this year and I can tell you that a playoff rematch would be as ugly or worse.  Mount's passing game could dominate CAP's defense ala Kmic...and if Kehres wanted to he could gameplay for Jorris to throw for 500 yards against you...does Jorris need to do that to get your attention?

Nevermind...you missed my point as well.  My fault on the stats, I forgot Garcon threw the td pass & was 1-1.

Toph

To Cap fans hoping for a rematch in the playoffs I say this:  Unless Mount Union goes under some radical transformation in the coming weeks, it can only be worse for you.  Capital didn't ever have to worry about the passing game on defense (especially not in the second half), the offensive line couldn't stop Mount when they dropped eight (and nine in a couple spots) guys in coverage, the Capital running game might as well have stayed on the bus, and the special teams were a mess.  Only two of those things could probably improve (the running game and special teams), and there's an outside chance that the o-line will play better.  Mount Union ran the ball 81% of the time.  What happens when play action is actually a threat?

And cu parent-
I assume that's the first Mount game you've seen this year but I have to ask...what, exactly, about that game gave you the impression that Mount can be beaten this year?  If not for two penalties (and the pass interference was very questionable) your team doesn't sniff the end zone.  Defensively they looked totally overmatched and completely lost.


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seventiesraider

Quote from: Toph on October 30, 2006, 03:33:27 PM
As for my Streaks this week...I'm hoping for closer than seventy.

I'm hoping for some interesting t-shirts and a good game. Your Streaks have improved a lot in the last few games. :)
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D3 Poster

Unfortunately, for months I've had to agree with all the hyperbole about the Raiders.  They are better than last year, they have dominant lines, they have the best skilled players, they are the deepest team in the OAC...etc

But now, I can jump on a claim from a Mount fan and say NO WAY:

Mount is winning with 'SPEED'....they are all faster or as fast as anyone at their position in the OAC...

Jorris is not the fastest QB in the league!!  But the back-up Micheli could be up there...damn.

D3 Poster

Agree with the JCU comment.  They were ugly early in the year, but really have put together a nice 'streak' and well recently.

purpled

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Quote from: raiderpa on October 30, 2006, 11:48:05 AM
It is hard to find receivers when you are constantly haveing to avoid quick guys in black jerseys...When Rocky had time, he got it done.  I am surprised there were no int's because the pressure was incredible on him...I also was very impressed of Rocky getting off the deck and returning without missing a play after he got hammered...next play TD pass..WOW

It was like deja vu all over again. My mind went back to a playoff game (UHMB) where a backup QB was allowed to stand back and let his receivers all run into the end zone, with no rush to pressure him. Then he throws up a desperation pass to win the game on the final play. And all this after getting sacked on the previous play to take them out of field goal range. Please...if you have to rush a cheerleader....rush somebody! The prevent defense just doesnt work like it used to. Every team seems to be able to exploit it nowadays. You cant play zone in the end zone! You gotta learn!

beenhit2hard

Nice for LK to achieve such status in the win column of football history !!!!

Now for the Cap people who want to beat MUC(and want to play them again)

Football teams that win have 3 basic traits,,,they can run,, they can block,, and they can tackle,,no matter what level you play,, ,,pee wees to the pros.( From LK's football coaching class)

To beat Mount Union,, you have to be able to block them,,,( allow no sacks or pressure on the qb and run the ball for ++ yardage),,,,You have to be able to run as quickly as mount on o and even more so on "D"..and you must get off blocks and Tackle the Raider with the ball,,and not allow 350 yds running the ball

So to win,, you must be equal to them in those 3 areas,,and then, and only then will you have a chance to win


Notice I did not say you have to have a great qb etc. , you must have the basics of Good Football at a level equal to, or better than your opponent

Mount Runs well,, on both sides of the ball,,Mount Blocks well,,,and the D will Tackle well and run extremely well to get to the football,,,

Just my  humble opinion after coaching a few years(480 games at high school and college and winning about 400 of them,,as an assistant and as a head coach)

Mr. Ypsi

Mr. 2hard:

Those are the ways to be likely to win, but there are other ways to win.  Did you see the bizarre outcome of the Oakland-Pittsburgh NFL game?  The Steelers outgained the Raiders 360-98 (Oakland had 17 yards passing; I wonder if any NFL team, much less a WINNING NFL team has ever had 17 yards!!); Oakland won on TWO INTs returned for TDs (good thing the interceptors went all the way - if they had been tackled on the five I'm not sure Oakland could have scored!). ;D

cufan

  Cap got beat by a team that has dominated the conference for 20 years and has won several national championships.  Mounts great ....they do everything well.....they are the fastest, strongest, and the best anyone has ever seen, we have heard it all..over and over and We Get It!!

Let's not forget that Cap had the best safety in the league out, the starting safety, cornerback and MLB playing with one hand.  I don't know if that would've made the difference between a win or a loss but it would have helped.

It amazes me that Cap has gone from the doormat of the league to a league and playoff contender and everyone except Cap fans wants to rip them for getting beat by an excellent Mount team.  I might have missed something but I haven't read anything that states Cap is dying to play Mount again.  I have to think they want to take care of business the next 2 weeks and make a run in the playoffs.