FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

...but Pat may be more lenient because they are probably not being compensated for their fine efforts.

You figured me out.

[reality check]

raiderguy

Thanks alot.  It isn't the list I was thinking of but I admit I never sawthe "annual champions" section listing more than the all-time leader so it was more or less what I was hoping to find.  Thanks for the suggestion or I wouldn't have looked so far into the records book.

[reality check]

Alright.  I can finally post some of the statistics I was hoping to track down. 

NCAA All-Division Career Sack Leaders
49.0  Steven Wilson     King's (PA) (III)           
44.0  Terrell Suggs      Arizona State (I-A)     
43.0  Jason Trusnik     Ohio Northern (III)   
42.5  Brandon Tisdale   Wilmington (OH) (III)
42.0  Chris Gocong       Cal Poly  (I-AA)

NCAA All-Division Career Tackle For Loss Leaders
106.5  Steven Wilson     King's (PA) (III)
89.5  Brandon Tisdale   Wilmington (OH) (III)   
87.5  Kevin Culbert       Frostburg State (III)
83.0  Jason Trusnik     Ohio Northern (III)
83.0  Vince King          Wartburg (III)

Trusnik winds up the all-time ONU and OAC sack leader.  This also makes me appreciate how impressive Brandon Tisdale was for an otherwise forgettable Wilmington team.  Imagine what we'd all be saying about him if he had played at Mount/Capital/ONU/ etc.

I also know that Kyle Hausler was hurt for part of the season but is the OAC all-time INT leader at 23.  If I'm not mistaken he was a medical redshirt in 2003.  It's a shame he had some injury problems this season as well as he had a real shot at breaking the all-division career INT record of 29.  Of course he still has an outside shot at doing so if Capital hasa nice run in the playoffs.

[Ric]

Are you kidding D3Poster?  If you are wanting to argue that Marietta played Mount Union closer than Capital or trying to compare the Pioneers favorably in any way to the Crusaders I would have no idea what to even say to that?

First off, go back and read what you so nicely copy and pasted that I wrote. It was all accurate.  Also go check the number of Mount kids that played against Marietta and the number that played against Capital.  Big difference.  Big difference in number of backs that carried the ball, big difference in defensive schemes.  Think maybe that was a base defense the entire game last week? Think maybe Mount blitzed and used numerous defensive packages against Cap? Jeesh, there is more than grabbing a couple numbers to fit your argument. That's right up there with not letting the facts get in the way of your argument.

Check out the defensive stats.  Another way of determining playing time is the stats of the defensive players.  I'm not going to list them here but they are easy to decipher.  Against Marietta a backup D-end led the team with FIVE tackles.

Debating you about this lends credence to what I guess you are trying to say and that is that Marietta is better than Capital? I think Cap's 52-10 win over the Pioneers should dispel that.

By your way of thinking Marietta must have the worst run defense in the history of football.  After all, until Saturday Mount Union had never rushed for 500 yards in one game.  They have now.  Does that make Marietta's run D the worst ever? No, there are other factors.

Two other things, your rumor is false, not even close, that was a bad attempt.  And Jorris throwing in the fourth quarter had nothing to do at all with Marietta.  There was another reason.  One those that know, know, and those that don't, don't.  But sorry, it had nothing at all to do with Marietta.  Mount wasn't concerned about four more broken play lets just throw the ball up and hope someone in Blue catches it TD's in junk time against a bunch of JV's.   Be real.

[DismySpecial-T]

Reality Check, Tisdale's numbers would not be near as impressive if he would have played at one of the elite OAC schools like Mount/Cap/ONU. He had so many sacks and TFL's because when Mount/Cap/ONU were pulling their starters in the begining of the 3rd quarter, he played either the whole game or deep into the 4th. Also if he would have played at one of the elite schools he would have been pulled for free lancing and hanging his teammates out to dry. Everytime he went and rushed upfield hoping for another sack he allowed a guard or center to get off to a middle linebacker and the wilmington fans watched as Pugh/Weber rushed 40+ yards for a touchdown. Yes he was good but no better than the other good D-linemen of the OAC. Just because a player has the better stats doesnt mean he is the better player.

[tdubs]

Does Hausler actually have a shot at coming back?

[cu parent]

Does Hausler actually have a shot at coming back?

Kyle Hausler is back!! He got some great hits in on Saturdays game against BW.

[reality check]

Does Hausler actually have a shot at coming back?

Chances are pretty good based on the 7 tackles and 2 Pass breakups in the BW game.   

[ADL70]

As far as the GL Around the Region guy goes, he's on Mercer County Time.  Like they say about Utah.  "Welcome to Utah, turn your clock back one decade."

[purple]

 Reality is never going to stop trying to convince us Trusnik was the best ever..blah.blah.Please.He was a good D3 player on a couple pretty good teams.Was he better than Johnny Josef,Matt Campbell,Todd Braden,Jeremy Yoder,Rich Dine,Jim Frink or Justin Stickly? They were all All-Americans at Mount on great teams that won titles and every one of them as good or better.

[reality check]

Purple

None of those guys you mentioned were voted national defensive player of the year.  I'll stick with my horse, you can stick with yours (all of yours).

Nowhere in that recent post about career numbers did I say he was the greatest ever.  Obviously he's not since he's not at the top of either list.  It's simple math but I can explain if you need me to.  Is he the best ever at ONU?  Yes.  Is he the best ever in the OAC?  He's going to go down as the most prolific pass rusher ever and that can't be argued (although I'm sure you'll try).  I acknowledged Tisdale's impressive career numbers and you still try to twist the message into some sort of "Trusnik's the greatest ever" hooplah.  I hope that axe you've been trying to grind is getting to the desired sharpness. 

Pat has told me what a beast Steven Wilson was and how he manhandled the competition unlike anyone else he's ever seen at the D-III level so I know better than to say Trusnik is the greatest of all-time.  Many Raider fans can see and appreciate things not associated with the Raiders.  You obviously aren't one of those people.  Try leaving Alliance for a day; there's a whole world out there you don't seem to care/know about.  And since you get mad when I call you an idiot, I'll just have to leave it at your comments being idiotic once again. 

[2minuteO]

okay listing all the best linemen i played against and who i feel gave me the most difficulty

1. Buddy Wolfe- this dude brought the wood every play and could lay a pretty good move on u at the same time... tough, mean, and physical

2. Antwan Dillard- just a beast..big, strong and fast

3. Brandon Tisdale- although could have been number one he often took plays off and i would agree that he was a free lancer

4. Justin Stickley- very fast and quick.. gamer. always managed to make plays when the game was on the line

5. Johnny Josef- D1 body.. played hard, but played high...

6. Jason Trusnik- played against him his DPOY year... 0 sacks 1 tackle...not very promising numbers... maybe get a breakdown between the top OAC schools and the lower half for stats

[HScoach]

6. Jason Trusnik- played against him his DPOY year... 0 sacks 1 tackle...not very promising numbers... maybe get a breakdown between the top OAC schools and the lower half for stats

That would be a very telling stat indeed.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

6. Jason Trusnik- played against him his DPOY year... 0 sacks 1 tackle...not very promising numbers... maybe get a breakdown between the top OAC schools and the lower half for stats

That would be a very telling stat indeed.

DPOY?

[2minuteO]

defensive player of the year