FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

When Garcon body-slammed the WW player, did the announcers even make a comment about the tackle?  I replayed it a bunch of times and can't remember them saying anything about it. 

No Gotlieb was too busy refilling his drink and Pam Ward was looking at her notes, because she couldn't remember if they were playing by Canadian or American rules (5-2-5 or 4-2-5 Defense for MTU).

[Pat Coleman]

When Garcon body-slammed the WW player, did the announcers even make a comment about the tackle?  I replayed it a bunch of times and can't remember them saying anything about it.

Pretty sure we did. But too busy to check.

http://www.broadcastmonsters.com/d3football/d3football121606-2.asx

[reality check]

Pat

I meant the ESPN crew.  I was certain you did as you never miss anything  .  I had to watch the game on the DVR so I couldn't listen to your broadcast but I know you and the guys did a great job.

[section13raiderfan]

The trouble with the NFL nowadays is its filled with freaks of nature instead of football players. Teams cant watch film of everyone in college to asess their abilities, so they play the odds and select the players in the molds of past stars. How many times have you heard the coach's axiom  "I can teach a 300 pound 6 foot 5 player to be good...but I cant teach a good player to be 300 pounds and 6 foot 5." True enough.....but when you choose the bigger player over the smaller but skilled one, and he doesnt pan out.....then the coach has pretty much just shown that he isnt any better at developing talent than he he is recognizing it in the first place. Draft day status is more about potential than it is about skill.  Until they figure out a way to measure heart and determination to go along with size and weight you are going to continue to see teams like the Browns.  A bunch of over payed underachievers if I ever saw any!  In the NFL winning is secondary to making money. If that means selling your fans false hope every year then so be it.  As long as the the team makes money! The college athletes play for pride and school honor.  Im not sure the pros have any.

[enterprise]

I saw that play,I loved it !!Pierre shotened that dude,he slammed him on his head,that was a serious ghetto tackle.The guy was 5'11 before the play,5'10 after the play.Todd Blackledge just said on ESPN's national broadcast that Alabama should hire LK,how about that,not bad for an old swim coach.Daryl Siedentop would be proud.

[enterprise]

Let's get some $$$$ going on this Garcon issue!!The last position you want to enter the draft as a borderline player is QB,they carry 3,how about rec/lb,6,7.I'm telling you with a sub 10.4 he has a good shot.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I'd like to see Garcon play a full season and put up some monster stats.  He sat out last year with the leg injury and then had the hand injury this year.

Maybe with a full season, lead D3 in ypc and TD receptions, he will get a shot.

[reality check]

Entering the draft as a borderline player at QB or another shallow position might stink but it's probably just as bad for a guy to get drafted in the 7th round by a random team as opposed to signing a free agent deal with a team that looks like the right fit for you and gives you the best odds of making the 53 man roster. 

[enterprise]

RC,I'll agree.Also,how do you think Mount would stack up against an Ivy League team.They should schedule one if possible.

[frank uible]

My estimate is that today Mt. Union would be competitive with the top of the Ivy League. In my lifetime members of the Ivy League scheduled small colleges (most recently, I believe, in 1953 Brown 0, Amherst 7; in 1954 Brown 40, Springfield 7; and in 1956 Harvard 13, Tufts 19). The likelihood of any DIII college getting on an Ivy League schedule is probably currently non-existent.

[enterprise]

Why?Both are non-scholarship,the schools are located near each other.

[bushman]

Politics, the ivy league school has nothing to gain from a game with Mt.  And even if offered I am not sure LK would agree.

[formerd3db]

enterprise

Because, quite simply, the Ivy Group schools consider themselves way above the DIII schools as far as athletic abilities.  While I agree it would be great to see such matchups on occasion (and see nothing wrong with it), as Frank says, it is unlikely to happen.  Bushman is also correct, although some might reasonably argue that same aspect then applies, for example to the Big Ten/MAC match-ups.  Some of the Big Ten coaches (such as Joe Tiller of Purdure don't like playing MAC schools because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose.  Yet, the reverse argument to that is if the Big Ten teams are so good, then they should beat them anyway.  Personally, I like to see those non-conf games and again, would love to see it with an occasional Ivy/upper tier DIII team, but again it is unlikely.

On the other hand, the Ivies play some of the other DIAA non-scholarship schools such as in the Pioneer League (Dayton, San Diego, Valpo), and as I recall, San Diego beat Yale this year (Dayton came close against Yale few years back in the '90's, but was also smashed by them another year!).  Also, I wouldn't mind seeing some DIII schools play a Patriot Leauge team on occasion, yet as many posters have said here in the past in discussing this type of situation, that doesn't fit in with the DIII playoff considerations in some aspects that might apply in some cases, such as the SOS, out-of-region games, etc.

[seventiesraider]

Hey, can we get back to serious stuff like where I can get one of those KMIC FOR HEISMAN T-Shirts

[reality check]

I'll echo the responses that I don't see Mount and any Ivy League school facing off any time soon.  But I'll add that I worked in the Yale athletic department for the three years I spent in CT and watched a few games from the pressbox.  I saw Yale play against Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth (I think?) and one other and would say Mount Union would be right there with them (possibly better).  I also worked as a play by play man for the University of New Haven and watched them play all sorts of teams from CW Post to Central Washington to Carson-Newman and Fordham.  I can say from my limited observations of the talent and coaching in those programs that Mount Union could be successful against them as well.

All that said, it's just my opinion.  I could be totally backwards.  I could be correct.  I doubt we'll know for certain any time soon.  I can say though that the UNH team I covered was disbanded by the athletic department following the season and most of the kids from that team went on to have nice careers at D-III institutions like QB Joe Dimeglio at Western CT and RB Kevin Nelson at Wilkes.