FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Mugsy]

Stone Station...........WE ARE COMING!  (I know you are SO excited....)  

BTW I think Stone Station needs to sit on the Home side with us this time.

Congrats to Nate, but even more so the entire team.

Sorry Mugsy, the numbers didn't lie. Good pass Offense but little pass defense for the Thunder. Tough run D, although Nate's numbers don't make it look that way. LK pretty much took #12 out of the game. I don't care to think about what mightr have happened if Wheaton's starting RB could have gone. 

Not difficult to take Ittersagen out of the game if you don't throw his way... as often has been the case this year.  Shorts had a quiet game, but MUC has a ton of other weapons. 

You can hold your own opinion... and you alway seem too.  Having seen many Wheaton games this year, I still hold to Wheaton's pass defense being better than the yardage allowed indicator.  The difference today compared to the past 4 weeks, Wheaton got nearly zero pressure on the QB.

You can still hold to your claim that the CCIW is not known for passing offenses as well... "but the numbers don't lie."   

The Wheaton defense chose to try to stop the MUC running game (and did early), by crowding the box.  Micheli found the open receivers and exploited openings left behind.  Wheat then had to play the pass honestly, which opened the gates for Kmic's huge day.

Once again, pick your poison.

Exactly... 70's claim that Wheaton did well against the run, but not the pass doesn't seem to jive either.  432 yards rushing allowed by Wheaton and 225 passing, yet 70's claims Wheaton was tough against the run.  

One other note:  I do agree with 70's that it would have been interesting to see how Wheaton would have faired with Gingg playing today.  There is a huge drop off from Gingg to the other RB's Wheaton played with today.  Hershey and Newman did admirably, but they aren't Gingg.

Wheaton would not have won with Gingg, but the game might have been a bit more interesting.  The trio of Norris, Pokorny and Gingg represents an impressive, balanced attack.  Today we just saw Norris to Pokorny.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I asked this question earlier and didn't get an answer.  Could've been the excitement surrounding Nate's rushing record or good taste by the MUC posters trying to keep me away from the school's headquarters in Salem.  Which hotel are most Mt. Union supporters staying at next weekend?  I want to make my reservations ASAP and want to be near our fan base.  Perhaps even meet a few of you.  

Might try emailing or calling the SID at MTU.  He may be able to supply more information.

[b4uknewit]

Congrats Mount! Enjoyed the game on the CBS stream {and that other game as well} 8)   ESPN announced they will be showing history being made today all day Guess the only history they are talking about is the possibility of Tebow's possible tie in the Heis.    Watching patiently..............Congrats Nate, You are the Man! Roll~Raiders

[seventiesraider]

Mugs - First of all check the rankings of the passing defenses in the CCIW - 5 ranked 200 or worse -FACT not opinion
           Second Mount had 178 yards passong in the FIRST HALF - Micheli was passing at will - FACT
            Shorts was so quiet on that TD that Ittersagen is still trying figure out how he got past him.
              And I'm glad #2 wears one of those plastic shields otherwise he wouldn't have gotten blinded by the sun and hit in
                the  head   with  easy TD pass.

  Sorry the facts don't support your "opinion"


Check with the Alumni Office for information  about Salem Home hotel and buses

[rscl70]

Congratulations to Nate Kmic!  Wish my Dad had been around to see Nate play. 

Wheaton receivers dropped several "easy" catches in the first half.  Had they made those catches the game may have been much more interesting.

Next week in Salem!

[HScoach]

Congrats to Nate Kmic and all of the unsung guys up front that have blocked for him.  What a great accomplishment and it couldn't have been done by a better kid! 

It's been a pure joy covering his 4 years of greatness.  I can still remember him stepping on the field for the first time at Marietta and thinking this kid with the funny last name showed good vision and could possibly contribute someday if he kept working hard.   Guess I slightly underestimated his potential?

The record breaking run was perfect.  It was a classic Kmic bounce-out, came at home and with the game decided so that Mount could acknowledge it.  Seeing the emotion from Nate as he ran off the field with the ball held high brought a tear to my eye.  I could only imagine what it must have been like for his family.

Congrats again to Nate.  He and Micheli are everything that is great about D3 athletics.  Good people, good students playing the game the way it is meant to be played simply because they love it.

[JK]

Congratulations to Nate Kmic!  Wish my Dad had been around to see Nate play. 

I bet Seventies (and a lot of others) wishes his brother were still around to see Nate play as well...

I can only imagine the prose ol' Raider66 would have spun for an occasion this momentous.

[Mugsy]

Mugs - First of all check the rankings of the passing defenses in the CCIW - 5 ranked 200 or worse -FACT not opinion
           Second Mount had 178 yards passong in the FIRST HALF - Micheli was passing at will - FACT
            Shorts was so quiet on that TD that Ittersagen is still trying figure out how he got past him.
              And I'm glad #2 wears one of those plastic shields otherwise he wouldn't have gotten blinded by the sun and hit in
                the  head   with  easy TD pass.

  Sorry the facts don't support your "opinion"


Check with the Alumni Office for information  about Salem Home hotel and buses

Apologies to the OAC board.  This will be the last I post on this, but I must clear something up with 70's.  

The comment in question was made yesterday by you... post #19827 on page 1322.

Looking forward to tomorrows game, especially going up against a passing defense ranked 202nd in D3 (from a conference not known for passing). Can't do the Wing Thing tonight, but Alliance (and surrounding territories)  is better off if I stay out of bars.

I have made the key phrase red and bold.  My post earlier today to you was a sarcastic response to your "numbers don't lie" comment going back to the post above.

You can still hold to your claim that the CCIW is not known for passing offenses as well... "but the numbers don't lie."

Both of these are in the context for CCIW passing offenses... not defense.  It goes back to my suggestion that Wheaton's pass yardage allowed is skewed by going up against reasonably strong pass offenses (some in CCIW, others in non-conference and playoff foes).

You then respond with a bunch of facts about passing defenses, which is completely off the topic.  What does 5 CCIW teams having a pass defense worst than 200 have anything to do with Wheaton's pass defense?    Other CCIW pass offenses will impact the Wheaton defense.

I'm sorry if I aided in this confusion, but the facts you bring up I believe are not pertainent to the discussion at hand.

For what it is worth, national ranking of CCIW passing offenses by yards per game:
#2 Carthage
#28 Elmhurst
#35 Illinois Wesleyan
#38 Wheaton
#47 North Central
#69 North Park
#115 Millikin
#154 Augustana

This seems to imply that the CCIW has relatively strong passing attacks.

Sorry for the crossed signals.

I'm not sure what the deal was with your comment regarding our receiver getting hit in the facemask with the pass at the end of the half.  Stupid play... but how exactly does that have any relevance to Wheaton's pass defense?  If you want to take me down a peg, fine... but don't take a shot at a Wheaton player with an offhanded comment on an unrelated topic.  Yup, that was a bad play by Wheaton and should have been an easy 6 points.  Should I fire back with a spiteful comment on what exactly was the MUC DB doing on that play?  What good is that?     Besides... as anyone on the CCIW board will tell you, I'm more than capable of humbling myself.   

Lastly... I did NOT say Ittersagen shutdown Shorts.  Can you agree with me that 4 catches for 34 yards and YES... 1 TD is still a quiet day for Shorts?  I believe this is primarily because when Wheaton did go man, Micheli looked elsewhere... quite successfully I might add.

If you want to twist my words or read more into them, that is your call.  I did not intend any of my posts to come across as hostile, yet I certainly interpreted that in your response.  At any rate... I'll go back to the CCIW board as I have already taken up too much space here.

Again... congrats to Mount Union on another dominating display of football.  All the best next week and safe travels to all.

[JK]

Given the events of today, here is a new question:

Can Kmic go over 300 in the Stagg to get over 3,000 for the season?

Nope.

hahaha we will let the NCAA All Division All-Time Leading Rusher decide that

As good as Nate Kmic is (and he is great!), he does not have the ability to simply "decide" how many yards he can get. MUC has one of the best coaching staffs in the country. They will not get carried away in personal statistics. MUC has all they can handle just trying the win the game next week and they know it. If this isn't just post-game euphoria speaking, just tell me what you would like to wager on Kmic going over 300 next week. How about $300 (one per proposed yard) to our favorite charity? If he goes over 300, I will give a dollar a yard to your favorite charity (legit charity, please). If he goes under 300, you give $300 to my favorite charity.

I agree with you on the fact that Kmic doesn't get to "decide" how many yards he gets, but I'm not sure I understand your argument.  

If the MUC staff is going to "have their hands full just trying to win the game" as you say, then I think you are going to see a heavy dose of Kmic.

BTW, he only needs like 54 yards to have the single season rushing mark.  I think he'll probably do that.  He'll also get the 14 he needs to go over 8,000 for his career.  As a non-Mount Union fan, I just thought I would bring it up since NO ONE has ever hit 3,000 in a season.

Personally, I agree with you, I don't think he will do it, but after what he has alraeady done, it SURELY isn't out of the realm of possibility, especially if it is a tight game next week.

[seventiesraider]

Let's move on

[seventiesraider]

Congratulations to Nate Kmic!  Wish my Dad had been around to see Nate play. 

I bet Seventies (and a lot of others) wishes his brother were still around to see Nate play as well...

I can only imagine the prose ol' Raider66 would have spun for an occasion this momentous.

I thought about him all day and on the ride home. I'll miss his tales and endless useless information all the way to Salem and back. Those Stagg Bowl drives with him were among my fondest memories. His talents were apparently not genetic.

[pradierguy]

I agree. I guess my point was taken the wrong way. What I meant was that he just set the record, so it is not out of the possibility for him to do something like 300 yds next week. Will he do it? doubtful. Could he? Absolutely.

For bleedpurple to just come on and say he WON'T do it isn't fair, as Nate is the all-time record holder.

Moot point either way. He would take 0 yds on Saturday if it meant a win.

[SaintsFAN]

I've made it to Columbus for the evening. 

Some thoughts:

1.  Congrats to Kmic and his offensive line.  Great accomplishment today... as I said on air, its the best way to break a record... on a TD run... ala Ricky Williams.  Then I thought, did I really just compare him to Ricky Williams??
2.  first class program, facilities and people.  Everything today was top notch.  Lenny Reich is to be commended for the job he does.
3.  great people I met... last night and today at the stadium.

Today was fun and I'd love to do it again.. the volume issues were frustrating but we did the best we could.  I thank Pat for asking me to do the game. 

hscoach, as I said on the phone... I'm really impressed with Mt Union.  Larry Kehres made some great adjustments... including finding Petruziello on the Mt Sideline a few times.  Good luck next weekend in avenging last year's Stagg Bowl.

OU25:  I know a place that will be open at 10:30, has internet access (So we can hear hscoach and ric) and will let us put any of the TV's on our channel. 

[bleedpurple]

Given the events of today, here is a new question:

Can Kmic go over 300 in the Stagg to get over 3,000 for the season?

Nope.

hahaha we will let the NCAA All Division All-Time Leading Rusher decide that

As good as Nate Kmic is (and he is great!), he does not have the ability to simply "decide" how many yards he can get. MUC has one of the best coaching staffs in the country. They will not get carried away in personal statistics. MUC has all they can handle just trying the win the game next week and they know it. If this isn't just post-game euphoria speaking, just tell me what you would like to wager on Kmic going over 300 next week. How about $300 (one per proposed yard) to our favorite charity? If he goes over 300, I will give a dollar a yard to your favorite charity (legit charity, please). If he goes under 300, you give $300 to my favorite charity.

I agree with you on the fact that Kmic doesn't get to "decide" how many yards he gets, but I'm not sure I understand your argument.  

If the MUC staff is going to "have their hands full just trying to win the game" as you say, then I think you are going to see a heavy dose of Kmic.

BTW, he only needs like 54 yards to have the single season rushing mark.  I think he'll probably do that.  He'll also get the 14 he needs to go over 8,000 for his career.  As a non-Mount Union fan, I just thought I would bring it up since NO ONE has ever hit 3,000 in a season.

Personally, I agree with you, I don't think he will do it, but after what he has alraeady done, it SURELY isn't out of the realm of possibility, especially if it is a tight game next week.

I agree, there will be a heavy dose of Kmic next week. My belief is that for Mount to win this game, they will have to do it with balance. Most (all?) of Mount games have been one sided talent wise and they could have said, "We are going to win this thing and get the 8,000 for Nate." (If he was within 300 of 8,000 when game was played).

However, in this game, Mount doesn't have that same talent advantage.

UWW's defense is giving up less points per game than the championship unit a year ago. I agree Kmic should get the single season record. He may  go over 100 (He got 121 last year). 300? Sounds like a pipe-dream to me! Just thought maybe I could help my favorite charity by taking advantage of Nate Euphoria!

[SaintsFAN]

almost forgot:

Wheaton's effort is to be commended... and classy moment by Swider to put the Sr QB in and have him throw a TD pass.  Says alot about the coach to put a kid in like that.  

Norris was sensational today (even when his WR's weren't).  He showed great heart and moxie.. and I think makes Wheaton a playoff contender next year... his offense plays hard for him and you can see why.

Finally,

the Wheaton fans I met this AM at the breakfast at the hotel, I know they will be dissapointed, but it was a great run for them.  I felt bad telling them what I thought of today but my score was close... I was saying 42-24 (I think I told hscoach that too on Friday).