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Dr. Acula

Quote from: HScoach on July 30, 2009, 11:07:40 AM
Quote from: Blutarsky on July 30, 2009, 10:55:07 AM
http://www2.muc.edu/Athletics/men_s_teams/football/2009_guide.aspx

The Mount Union 2009 Media Guide has been posted on the school website.....nice job, Mr. SID!!

Ah, you beat me to it.

I concur with the kudos to Lenny Reich.  We're very glad to have him in Alliance!

I'll echo that.  Lenny has done an impeccable job.

p.s. I see that Cecil is listed at 6'2", 195...a little bigger than last year if I'm remembering correctly.

JK

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Here is Usain Bolt's WR 100m (9.69) in 10 meter intervals.  It illustrates the point about the three phases:

RT: 0.165
0-10m: 1.85
10-20m: 1.02
20-30m: 0.91
30-40m: 0.87
40-50m: 0.85
50-60m: 0.82
60-70m: 0.82
70-80m: 0.82
80-90m: 0.83
90-100m: 0.90

AS you can see, he doesn't really get to his sustained "top end speed" until the 50m mark.  Out to 20 m he is still in the "Start" phase, from 30-50m he is in the "run-up" and then he flies over the last 50m.

40 yards is 36.5 meters.  Taking Bolt's FASTEST 10m splits, he covered 40 METERS in 3.29 seconds, so 40 YARDS would be faster than that- approx. 2.99 seconds if you do the math.

That is on his FASTEST 40m.  Making it more equal and going from the start of the race, here is what I come up with.  We have to take out reaction time, because in timing a 40, the clock starts on the athlete, not on a gun.  I get a 4.34 from the start to 40 YARDS.  But, again, you have to remember, Bolt wasn't even at his top end speed at 40 yards, he was still in his "run-up" phase.

I think that the best way to extrapolate a 40 time from a 100m is to take 10m from the start, 10m from the run up and 16.5m from the top-end.  Bolt's SLOWEST 40 yards would be 4.17 and his FASTEST 40 yards using this method would be 3.25.

Probably more than you ever wanted on this subject, but it annoys me when people break out the "Ben Johnson" response to 40 yard dash times.  It's almost become an urban legend.

JK

I miss Lenny at Capital.

You Mount Union "Raiders" stole him from us  ;D

HScoach

Quote from: Bump on July 30, 2009, 06:49:13 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 30, 2009, 04:38:03 AM
The Benedictine High School website states that Urbania signed a letter of intent with Findlay.

Sure enough does look like Urbania is head to Findley. Kids do change their minds. This could be a good case and point why D3 SID don't publish commit lists early.

My "source" says he decided against his Findlay scholarship and will be attending Mount. 
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

seventiesraider

I was impressed that those Facebook notes about the Media Guide came out around 11:30-12:00 last night.

Also a bunch of information posted on MUC.EDU about tickets and TV games (all home games on STO)
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

HScoach

Quote from: JK on July 30, 2009, 11:46:54 AM
I miss Lenny at Capital.

You Mount Union "Raiders" stole him from us  ;D

I should send a "thank you" note to Capital's new president for running Collins and everyone else off.  
I find easily offended people rather offensive!

Statistics are like bikinis; what they reveal is interesting, what they hide is essential.

JK

Quote from: HScoach on July 30, 2009, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: JK on July 30, 2009, 11:46:54 AM
I miss Lenny at Capital.

You Mount Union "Raiders" stole him from us  ;D

I should send a "thank you" note to Capital's new president for running Collins and everyone else off.  

Not "everyone."  Dixie and Damon Goodwin are still there.

Actually, Dr. Acula and I had a very good discussion on this topic on the Baseball board after Greg Weyrich (an '84 Cap grad) abruptly resigned a month or so ago and re-visited it when Manny Matsakis also abruptly resigned.

Bottom line, I am not sure what is going on in the athletic department at Cap, and what the president is doing.

Blutarsky

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Quote from: SaintsFAN on July 30, 2009, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: Blutarsky on July 30, 2009, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: raiderguy on July 30, 2009, 09:38:23 AM
Quote from: Blutarsky on July 30, 2009, 09:20:53 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on July 30, 2009, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Bump on July 30, 2009, 06:49:13 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 30, 2009, 04:38:03 AM
The Benedictine High School website states that Urbania signed a letter of intent with Findlay.

Sure enough does look like Urbania is head to Findley. Kids do change their minds. This could be a good case and point why D3 SID don't publish commit lists early.


The real question here is... with a 3.0 GPA, academics are obviously important to the kid.  Why is he going to Urbana?  Am I missing something??

I believe his name is Urbania, and he's going to Findlay.....Division II ($$$)




Who or what the he$$ is a Findlay? Do they play organized football. Oh sure it's about the money! ;)

The University of Findlay is located in Findlay, OH (Northwest OH).  It is a Div. II school and a member of the same conference (GLAAC) as Ashland University, Grand Valley State, etc.  Their head coach is Jon Wauford, former player at Miami University.   Several years ago, they won some national championships at the NAIA level.  Have not experienced the same success since moving to Div. II a few years ago.........I'm guessing they had a scholarship open up late, and Mr. Urbania was next on their list.

Side bar comment.........Findlay used to be a college.  When making the decision to move to "university status", they made sure it was called the University of Findlay as opposed to Findlay University, which would have looked great on a ballcap ("FU")   :)

Is this the same John Wauford who coached defense at Miami University and decked the fan after the game at Marshall???

One and the same.....I didn't include that information because I didn't think anyone else knew of the incident.  He also punched a few holes in the Marshall press box prior to the altercation with the fan after the game.  Apparently, all of the press box walls at Donnell Stadium (Findlay) have remained intact.  That being said, all head coaches (save Joe Pa) are on the field......
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
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raiderguy

Quote from: HScoach on July 30, 2009, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: Bump on July 30, 2009, 06:49:13 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 30, 2009, 04:38:03 AM
The Benedictine High School website states that Urbania signed a letter of intent with Findlay.

Sure enough does look like Urbania is head to Findley. Kids do change their minds. This could be a good case and point why D3 SID don't publish commit lists early.

My "source" says he decided against his Findlay scholarship and will be attending Mount. 



A man wise beyond his years! 8)
WELCOME TO THE MACHINE!

Blutarsky

Division II scholarship at Findlay......$30,000/year

National Championship ring at MUC (and bragging rights forever)......Priceless
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son"
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Small but Slow

Ohio Dominican is also moving to DII as a GLAC member.  They are recruiting one of my former players pretty vigorously.  I checked their website and recognized a few names on the staff, including a former MUC player and Tim Rose, former hc at Miami of OH.  A few years ago there was concern when Ashland move to DII that they would cut into the MUC talent pool.  Performance would indicate that the effect has been negligible.  With the number of scholarships available and cost of these schools much of the financial lure of these schools is still dependent on academic and other grants that can be given to get a kid to come there.  Most FBC and DII are offering 50% football scholarships with the rest up to either the families or other sources.  I recommended that my guy apply to all schools he's interested in,submit financial aid information, and compare the options.

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: Small but Slow on July 30, 2009, 02:39:35 PM
I checked their website and recognized a few names on the staff, including a former MUC player and Tim Rose, former hc at Miami of OH.

I went to check out which MUC player was coaching at OD and didn't see Tim Rose there.  Then googled him and saw he was the DC at Toledo but is now at Ashland as the DC.  You getting your DII Ohio Football schools mixed up?

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Quote from: kirasdad on July 29, 2009, 08:26:49 PM
Quote from: theaprof on July 29, 2009, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on July 29, 2009, 07:59:15 PM
Does anyone think we could see a rotation system at RB like back in the Lantos/Gorius/Evans era?  Maybe we could see something similar w/ Morring/Panchik/Urbania?  I know Thomas is still there as well, and there was a young kid last year too (Harris?) so they seem to have a lot of depth.

Depth has not been a problem since 1993--I remember rotating two freshman quarterbacks and still having a heck of a year!

Do you mean 1994?  Fall of 1993 was the first National Championship with Ballard at QB.

I just meant that there have been plenty of players at most all of the positions since at least '93--I am aware that the rotating quarterbacks were after that.  I had Jim in class in '93.
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joelmama

Quote from: Blutarsky on July 30, 2009, 01:48:18 PM
Division II scholarship at Findlay......$30,000/year

National Championship ring at MUC (and bragging rights forever)......Priceless
A full scholarship to D2 schools for football is pretty rare.  I think they are limited to 25-30 outstanding at a time.  My daughter's boyfriend is going d2 this fall was an outstanding RB and he signed for 1/2 scholarship making his scholl efectibvely  the cost of state school, of course he is smart and also got some other aid as well.

Bump

Quote from: JK on July 30, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Bump on July 29, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
Food for thought...

Ben Johnson, who is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson is best known for injecting copious amounts of steroids and winning the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yar ds that day in 4.38 seconds.

Sorry if I seem a little skeptical on any sub 4.5 40 time. Have heard way to many sub 4.4 40's coming out of so called summer camps at a D1 University in Akron. Have a hard time believing the system was set up correctly or the thing was calibrated properly

I've seen this same thing referenced before when people question 40 times, saying "it's impossible for anyone to run faster than that."

It's a crock of $h*t, is what it is.  Apples and oranges.

First, there is a BIG differences in the way races are run because of distance.  Track coaches will tell you that even in a race as short as the 100m, there are still three distinct phases- the start, the "run-up," and then "top-end speed."  (Help me out here 70's).  The start is more than just coming out of the blocks, it's getting from there into a running position, and usually takes about 10-15m.  In the run-up, sprinters settle in- get their arms going and their stride into rhythm, usually another 30m or so.  THen, finally, they get to their top-end speed at about the halfway mark.  Watch an olympic or elite level race closely and you will see this.  THe great starters get out first, then you see them all settle in, and then you see all the passing in the last half of the race.  (I would argue there is a fourth phase as well- the finish, where guys like Usain Bolt slow down and showboat or guys who have a huge lead naturally slow as well).

The 40 breaks out the same way, but becuase of distance, it has to be done MUCH sooner in the "race."  You have to train to get to your top end speed much quicker.

Second, in track, the watch starts on the gun and in a 40 time on the athlete's motion.  Even the best starters have a reaction time around .1 seconds.  SO take that off of Ben Johnson's time and you are looking in the 4.2's

Here is some more info I dug up:
Usain Bolt's legal 9.69 (9.55 without slowing) 100m time (40 yards of it) blows it away. Usain Bolt's 40 yard during his 100m record was a 4.09 or 4.02.

At the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Maurice Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, extrapolating his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.24 seconds.

These 2 times and races include reaction time, anywhere from 0.100 to 0.150 seconds

So, it is possible for a college kid to run faster than Ben Johnson, and it is possible for those 4.4's and 4.3's to be legit.

Did I strike a nerve JK?  ;D
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