FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[section13raiderfan]

Rocco improved his stance under center and threw the ball accurately. He will not be much cause for concern. The backfield is interesting. Morring looks more like the power runner of the group. But I didnt see anyone else looking the part. The others were good outside runners, but on 4th and inches..........I dunno.

What I found interesting was that LK burned all 3 Louisville frosh players redshirts in the first game. Must be gonna fast track em in the system. The Mathie kid got no catches......but he WILL! Hes gonna be a good one. judging from what I saw last year in HS.

Special teams gotta get more "special" IMHO. Punt returns especially.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Rocco improved his stance under center and threw the ball accurately. He will not be much cause for concern. The backfield is interesting. Morring looks more like the power runner of the group. But I didnt see anyone else looking the part. The others were good outside runners, but on 4th and inches..........I dunno.

What I found interesting was that LK burned all 3 Louisville frosh players redshirts in the first game. Must be gonna fast track em in the system. The Mathie kid got no catches......but he WILL! Hes gonna be a good one. judging from what I saw last year in HS.

Special teams gotta get more "special" IMHO. Punt returns especially.

As far as I know the OAC doesn't "Redshirt" players unless for medical reasons.  Your eligibility starts the first season you play, no matter if you see time in JV or Varsity games.  My understanding at least.

[TooForRaider]

Rocco improved his stance under center and threw the ball accurately. He will not be much cause for concern. The backfield is interesting. Morring looks more like the power runner of the group. But I didnt see anyone else looking the part. The others were good outside runners, but on 4th and inches..........I dunno.

What I found interesting was that LK burned all 3 Louisville frosh players redshirts in the first game. Must be gonna fast track em in the system. The Mathie kid got no catches......but he WILL! Hes gonna be a good one. judging from what I saw last year in HS.

Special teams gotta get more "special" IMHO. Punt returns especially.

As far as I know the OAC doesn't "Redshirt" players unless for medical reasons.  Your eligibility starts the first season you play, no matter if you see time in JV or Varsity games.  My understanding at least.

You are correct. 

I really like ONU's new stadium. Its the perfect small college venue.

[seventiesraider]

This board has been viewed over a milion times!! Who brought the cake

[HScoach]

I already ate it.  Sorry.

[seventiesraider]

PD notes that Bill Borchert will be inducted into the Greater Cleveland Sports Hall of Fame along with Brian Brennan and Sam Rutigliano in fotoball and several others from different sports including three Olympians.

[footballfan413]

Rocco improved his stance under center and threw the ball accurately. He will not be much cause for concern. The backfield is interesting. Morring looks more like the power runner of the group. But I didnt see anyone else looking the part. The others were good outside runners, but on 4th and inches..........I dunno.

What I found interesting was that LK burned all 3 Louisville frosh players redshirts in the first game. Must be gonna fast track em in the system. The Mathie kid got no catches......but he WILL! Hes gonna be a good one. judging from what I saw last year in HS.

Special teams gotta get more "special" IMHO. Punt returns especially.

As far as I know the OAC doesn't "Redshirt" players unless for medical reasons.  Your eligibility starts the first season you play, no matter if you see time in JV or Varsity games.  My understanding at least.

Just to clarify, the NCAA banned redshirting at the D-3 level, (the exception being for medical reasons,)  and 03 was the last class allowed to do it.  Players no longer have 5 years to play 4.  Your eligibility starts automatically your first season and ends in 4 years regardless of whether you see the field or not.   

[Knightstalker]

I already ate it.  Sorry.

What kind of cake was it?

[Knightstalker]

PD notes that Bill Borchert will be inducted into the Greater Cleveland Sports Hall of Fame along with Brian Brennan and Sam Rutigliano in fotoball and several others from different sports including three Olympians.

Fotoball, football played inside an old Fotomat hut.

[Blutarsky]

Rocco improved his stance under center and threw the ball accurately. He will not be much cause for concern. The backfield is interesting. Morring looks more like the power runner of the group. But I didnt see anyone else looking the part. The others were good outside runners, but on 4th and inches..........I dunno.

What I found interesting was that LK burned all 3 Louisville frosh players redshirts in the first game. Must be gonna fast track em in the system. The Mathie kid got no catches......but he WILL! Hes gonna be a good one. judging from what I saw last year in HS.

Special teams gotta get more "special" IMHO. Punt returns especially.

As far as I know the OAC doesn't "Redshirt" players unless for medical reasons.  Your eligibility starts the first season you play, no matter if you see time in JV or Varsity games.  My understanding at least.

Just to clarify, the NCAA banned redshirting at the D-3 level, (the exception being for medical reasons,)  and 03 was the last class allowed to do it.  Players no longer have 5 years to play 4.  Your eligibility starts automatically your first season and ends in 4 years regardless of whether you see the field or not.   

.....unless your last name is "Pentello".

I am also a fan of the stadium in Ada.  It's a great setting for football.  Two years ago, for the MUC game, it might have been the most uncomfortable I have been for a football game.  Hot, humid, no breeze, and no shade.  There were folks setting on the ground in front of the scoreboard because it was the only part of the field not in direct sunlight.  I really felt for the "big uglies" on the field.....it was a miserable day.  Maybe not as miserable as sideways snow (see Cortland playoff game), but nasty. 

[HScoach]

That was a nasty day.  Especially when spending 3+ hours on the press box roof because they don't have room inside for everyone.  Nothing like 90 degrees and sunny mixed with a black roof and lots of bees.  Otherwise, Dial-Roberson is a great stadium.  What a change from their old place.

We also questioned why ONU was wearing their complete uniforms (all black) for warm-ups in the pregame.  Whereas MUC was in white pants and T-shirts until right before kick-off.  Advantage MUC.

In terms of the wind & snow vs. Cortland, I didn't see any problem with that game.  Other than walking thru the camera bay on the way to get free pizza was a little cold.

[SaintsFAN]

I already ate it.  Sorry.

What kind of cake was it?

dont quit your diet, KS!!!   

[JK]

Rocco improved his stance under center and threw the ball accurately. He will not be much cause for concern. The backfield is interesting. Morring looks more like the power runner of the group. But I didnt see anyone else looking the part. The others were good outside runners, but on 4th and inches..........I dunno.

What I found interesting was that LK burned all 3 Louisville frosh players redshirts in the first game. Must be gonna fast track em in the system. The Mathie kid got no catches......but he WILL! Hes gonna be a good one. judging from what I saw last year in HS.

Special teams gotta get more "special" IMHO. Punt returns especially.

As far as I know the OAC doesn't "Redshirt" players unless for medical reasons.  Your eligibility starts the first season you play, no matter if you see time in JV or Varsity games.  My understanding at least.

Just to clarify, the NCAA banned redshirting at the D-3 level, (the exception being for medical reasons,)  and 03 was the last class allowed to do it.  Players no longer have 5 years to play 4.  Your eligibility starts automatically your first season and ends in 4 years regardless of whether you see the field or not.   

True that there are no traditional redshirts in D3, although that has been the case in the OAC for a very long time (was the case when I was in school in the early 90's).  Although if a kid goes to a higher division and gets redshirted, it still applies if he transfers down and he still has 4 years of eligibility remaining.

Not true about the "5 to play 4" rule.  It still applies.  Here it is straight from the D3 bylaw guidebook:
"A student-athlete shall not engage in more than four seasons of intercollegiate participation in any one sport (see
Bylaw 14.2.4.1). (Revised: 1/12/04 effective 8/1/04 for any athletics participation occurring on or after 8/1/04)
A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation during the first 10 semesters or 15 quarters in which the student is enrolled in a collegiate institution in at least a minimum full-time program of studies, as determined by the regulations of that institution."

That doesn't mean that a kid can be "redshirted" and still practice with the team.  According to the rules: "A season of intercollegiate participation shall be counted in the student-athlete’s sport when a student-athlete participates (practices or competes) during or after the first contest in the traditional segment following the student-athlete’s initial participation of that academic year at that institution or when the student-athlete engages in intercollegiate competition during the nontraditional segment in that sport. This provision is applicable to intercollegiate athletics participation (practice or competition) conducted by a Division III collegiate institution at the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team level."

So if a kid plays in a varsity, JV, or Frosh game or if he practices with the team the first day after the first varsity game, then he has a "year of competition."  If a kid comes to school and doesn't play his freshman year or if he quits before the first game, then that is not a year and they still have 4 years left to play, even if they are in school full time that first year.  Or, if a kid gets a year as a freshman (2 semesters) and then doesn't come out their sophomore year (2 more semesters), they would still have 3 years (6 semesters) of eligibility left, even if they came back the next year and they were a Jr. academically.

However, if a kid played as a frosh and then not as a soph or Jr and then came back his Sr. year, he could only play 2 more seasons.  Fr= 2 semesters and 1 year of participation; So= 2 semesters (total of 4), no participation; Jr= 2 semesters (now total of 6), no participation; Sr= 2 semesters (now total of 8 ), 1 year of participation (now 2); 5th= 2 semesters (total of 10), 1 year of participation (3rd).

It would be possible for the above example to play his 4th year.  He would have to quit school after the 1st semester of his 5th year and then re-enroll for a 6th year.  That is because "A student-athlete is considered to have used a semester or quarter under this rule when the student attends any class while officially registered in a collegiate institution (domestic or foreign) in a regular term of an academic year for a minimum full-time program of studies, as determined by the institution, even if the student-athlete drops to part-time status at any time during the term, including his or her first day of attendance."

Make sense??

[reality check]

Ada may be an armpit, however the new stadium is a superb venue....obviously someone will moan about the visitors bleachers, but other than MUC who will ever fill them...

RC,

How has ONU's attendance been over the last several years? Especially for big games...................

Well all I really know is that they usually have a web audience of one in Arizona for their games.  Since opening Dial-Roberson, ONU's attendance has been okay but nothing mind-blowing.  Last year, the biggest home game was OTT (I guess) with a shade under 2900 in attendance.  Homecoming, versus Etta saw 3500.  But that balances out when Wilma came to Ada in a snowstorm to close out the season and they had just 587 in attendance.

They averaged just under 2000 a game last year.

In 2007 they averaged 2350 a game with MUC being the high water mark at 5200.

Predictably seasons where the Bears host Mount, they see attendance boosts.  

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I knew they honored the redshirt year from other divisions, just didn't think that they initiated redshirts at the DIII level, other than injury.

There was a posting on the WIAC board a week or so ago talking about how one of the teams (not UWW) actually cut a player (QB) his freshman year so he could still come back and play four more years.  He wasn't going to beat out the starting QB and they wanted to have him the next year.  He participated in Spring Practice this past spring and he is starting this year as a FR. QB, even though he is a Sophomore in School.