FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[reality check]

Why are you referring to "MTU" as some sort of sign to the name change?  They've gone by MTU for a number of years now.  Ric explained the abbreviation a few years ago when asked about it and I'm sure he knows when they first used this abbreviation.  According to OAC.org, the stats going back to 2001 refer to Mount as "MTU".  All I'm saying is that MTU has been used long before any talk about universities and in fact has no relevance to the university status since Mount Union University, University of Mount Union and any other conceivable nameplate would not translate to "MTU". 

From an OAC standpoint this will bring the conference numbers to 6 universities and 4 colleges.  It might be interesting to see if the other schools look to follow suit in the coming years.

[bleedpurple]

Setting aside all the light hearted football banter for a moment:

I feel badly for those of you long time fans and supporters who are hurt by the name change. In reading the incredibly vague letter from the Board of Trustees, it reads very much like rebranding to me.

"Significant themes" and "number of reasons" are cited but no specifics were given. They encouraged people to "read more", but didn't even hint at where the info could be found. Unless this is common knowledge, Alumni and supporters deserved more.

I know MUC degrees are well respected. MUC attracts quality students and produces quality graduates.

I have always been a proponent of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.

I admit I know less about the inner workings at MUC than almost any other poster on here. But from the outside looking in, I can't quite see what was broke.

People make the difference in successful programs. The Board has to look about as far as, ohhh Mount Union Stadium to see that!

Perhaps, just perhaps, instead of messing with the name, the Board should enlist LK to help them in the areas of  being "relevant, proactive, successful and forward thinking." From this perch in Wisconsin, he seems to have those down pretty well.

Just a thought....

[PurpleSuit]

Im not arrogant.....sometimes euphoric to an annoying degree.....but not arrogant. There is a difference. If there were an arrogant emoticon, I wonder what it would look like? Any ideas guys?

accourding to some, i mean one, it seems like Pierre's face would do

[bambord]

BP,

Some of your posts (about MUC football) are interesting, some irritating.  Your post, below, very well presents my thoughts and I thank you.  The Board used a lot of words to say little of value or interest.  In the same number of words, they could have explained how this change is not simply "keeping up with the Jone's" - Malone and Walsh Universities.  In this liberal era of creating least common denominators, do they want to drag Mount down to the level of Walsh and Malone?

I see  no way that The University at Mount Union will enhance MUC's fine reputation.  In one fell swoop, they have reduced Mount's appeal to many.  I've lived in Stark County and followed Mount football since 1965.  My daughter graduated from Mount.  At this time, I'm bummed and unlikely to go to the BW game tonight.

Darn!

Setting aside all the light hearted football banter for a moment:

I feel badly for those of you long time fans and supporters who are hurt by the name change. In reading the incredibly vague letter from the Board of Trustees, it reads very much like rebranding to me.

"Significant themes" and "number of reasons" are cited but no specifics were given. They encouraged people to "read more", but didn't even hint at where the info could be found. Unless this is common knowledge, Alumni and supporters deserved more.

I know MUC degrees are well respected. MUC attracts quality students and produces quality graduates.

I have always been a proponent of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.

I admit I know less about the inner workings at MUC than almost any other poster on here. But from the outside looking in, I can't quite see what was broke.

People make the difference in successful programs. The Board has to look about as far as, ohhh Mount Union Stadium to see that!

Perhaps, just perhaps, instead of messing with the name, the Board should enlist LK to help them in the areas of  being "relevant, proactive, successful and forward thinking." From this perch in Wisconsin, he seems to have those down pretty well.

Just a thought....

[rscl70]

Setting aside all the light hearted football banter for a moment:

I feel badly for those of you long time fans and supporters who are hurt by the name change. In reading the incredibly vague letter from the Board of Trustees, it reads very much like rebranding to me.

"Significant themes" and "number of reasons" are cited but no specifics were given. They encouraged people to "read more", but didn't even hint at where the info could be found. Unless this is common knowledge, Alumni and supporters deserved more.

I know MUC degrees are well respected. MUC attracts quality students and produces quality graduates.

I have always been a proponent of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.

I admit I know less about the inner workings at MUC than almost any other poster on here. But from the outside looking in, I can't quite see what was broke.

People make the difference in successful programs. The Board has to look about as far as, ohhh Mount Union Stadium to see that!

Perhaps, just perhaps, instead of messing with the name, the Board should enlist LK to help them in the areas of  being "relevant, proactive, successful and forward thinking." From this perch in Wisconsin, he seems to have those down pretty well.

Just a thought....

If you had received the original e-mail rather than the copy kirasdad posted you would have seen links to the reasons and research.  If you are interested, here they are:

http://www2.muc.edu/email/172391.1/LH/www2.muc.edu/Administration/public_affairs_and_marketing/top_ten_reasons.aspx
http://www2.muc.edu/email/172391.1/LH/www2.muc.edu/Administration/public_affairs_and_marketing/the_reasons_to_change.aspx
http://www2.muc.edu/email/172391.1/LH/www2.muc.edu/Administration/public_affairs_and_marketing/research_and_conclusions.aspx

[rscl70]

BP,

Some of your posts (about MUC football) are interesting, some irritating.  Your post, below, very well presents my thoughts and I thank you.  The Board used a lot of words to say little of value or interest.  In the same number of words, they could have explained how this change is not simply "keeping up with the Jone's" - Malone and Walsh Universities.  In this liberal era of creating least common denominators, do they want to drag Mount down to the level of Walsh and Malone?

I see  no way that The University at Mount Union will enhance MUC's fine reputation.  In one fell swoop, they have reduced Mount's appeal to many.  I've lived in Stark County and followed Mount football since 1965.  My daughter graduated from Mount.  At this time, I'm bummed and unlikely to go to the BW game tonight.

Darn!

Setting aside all the light hearted football banter for a moment:

I feel badly for those of you long time fans and supporters who are hurt by the name change. In reading the incredibly vague letter from the Board of Trustees, it reads very much like rebranding to me.

"Significant themes" and "number of reasons" are cited but no specifics were given. They encouraged people to "read more", but didn't even hint at where the info could be found. Unless this is common knowledge, Alumni and supporters deserved more.

I know MUC degrees are well respected. MUC attracts quality students and produces quality graduates.

I have always been a proponent of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.

I admit I know less about the inner workings at MUC than almost any other poster on here. But from the outside looking in, I can't quite see what was broke.

People make the difference in successful programs. The Board has to look about as far as, ohhh Mount Union Stadium to see that!

Perhaps, just perhaps, instead of messing with the name, the Board should enlist LK to help them in the areas of  being "relevant, proactive, successful and forward thinking." From this perch in Wisconsin, he seems to have those down pretty well.

Just a thought....

From the Mount Union web site:

8.      Nine of our top 10 direct competitors for prospective students are universities.

· Many would be surprised to learn that the top four competitors of Mount Union in a cross application analysis are Kent State University, The University of Akron, Ashland University and Ohio University.

· Only one institution among our top 10 competitors (Baldwin-Wallace College is #5) is named a college.  Numbers 6-10 are Ohio State University, Bowling Green State University, Walsh University, John Carroll University and Ohio Northern University.

Now that you've had a chance to become better informed, please feel free to return to discussing football.  

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

If you had received the original e-mail rather than the copy kirasdad posted you would have seen links to the reasons and research.  If you are interested, here they are:

http://www2.muc.edu/email/172391.1/LH/www2.muc.edu/Administration/public_affairs_and_marketing/top_ten_reasons.aspx
http://www2.muc.edu/email/172391.1/LH/www2.muc.edu/Administration/public_affairs_and_marketing/the_reasons_to_change.aspx
http://www2.muc.edu/email/172391.1/LH/www2.muc.edu/Administration/public_affairs_and_marketing/research_and_conclusions.aspx

Thanks for posting this.  I couldn't find the original email they sent out about a month ago.

[reality check]

Pierre Garcon's ownership in Fantasy Football on ESPN is now over 38%.  He shot up almost 35% this week which makes him the "hottest" free agent in fantasy football.  He's projected to be worth 2 points more than even Reggie Wayne this Sunday.  Interesting stuff.

[Ex D3 Athlete]

From the Mount Union web site:

8.      Nine of our top 10 direct competitors for prospective students are universities.

· Many would be surprised to learn that the top four competitors of Mount Union in a cross application analysis are Kent State University, The University of Akron, Ashland University and Ohio University.

· Only one institution among our top 10 competitors (Baldwin-Wallace College is #5) is named a college.  Numbers 6-10 are Ohio State University, Bowling Green State University, Walsh University, John Carroll University and Ohio Northern University.

Now that you've had a chance to become better informed, please feel free to return to discussing football.
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OK, let discuss football then, Kent St., Akron, Ashland, Ohio, Walsh & possibly even Bowling Green could also be competitors with Mount Union on the GRIDIRON! The name change was not the most anticipated move for Mount Union from it's fans ... playing a tougher out of conference schedule is! For goodness sakes, do it to give the athletes a better measuring stick in which to evaluate themselves!

[JK]

Capital is rolling.  27-0 over Etta at half

[jam40jeff]

Wilmington is beating JCU 21-7 in the 3rd quarter. 

[JK]

End of 3rd.  Cap up 34-0 on Etta.

[reality check]

Schlosser's having an even better day making the Cardinal faithful say "Rafferty who?".  Through three quarters he's got 100 yards on the ground and 3 rushing TD's and is 12-14 passing for 2 more TD's and 180 yards.

OTT up big on the Berg, 49-13.

[jam40jeff]

Wilimngton beat JCU 24-16.

[JK]

Final in Marietta.  Capital beats the Pios 37-13.

Assmann goes 11-18 for 202 yards and 4 TDs.  Etta sold out to stop the run, so the two RBs that had both gone over 100 yds the last 2 weeks only got 69 (Merritt) and 62 (D'Andrea) and no TDs.  Ryan Gunnarson had 3 rec for 76 yds and 1TD and Evan Blake had 3 catches for 68 yds and 2 TDs.  Total offense- 364.

Etta got both TDs in garbage time, but ran more plays and had almost 4 mins more in TOP.  Cap D gave up 284 yds total offense to the Pios, but Etta turned the ball over 5 times.  Cap D also got 3 Sacks and a pick.

Etta got a bit of a revelation today in Frosh RB Tevin Dones.  He ran for 68 yards and QB Miller threw for 126 and 2 TDs.

Again, it's a W, but Cap has some things to work on, especially closing out the game with giving up the two 4th qtr TDs after being up 34-0 after 3.

Cap-MUC (or is it MUU?) next week.  Should be a matchup of unbeatens with OAC title implications, just like we like it.  Hopefully it's a good one, but MUC has a way of turning these type of games into one-sided affairs.  We'll see in a week.  I'll probably be there.  I should be easy to find since I will be in uniform and not with the Capital ROTC department.