FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[HScoach]

If I was a voter, I wouldn't have Mount #1 either. 

They're easily #2, but with the questions at we still have at QB I can't honestly think Mount is better than Whitewater that returned 21 of 22 starters from last year's Stagg Bowl.    Not to say they might not get there by seasons end or couldn't beat WWW if they matched up again, but right now I couldn't vote Mount #1.

With Pat seeing first hand what we've all been feeling about the offense, how can you expect him to keep Mount at #1?  We really struggled to score in the first half against a team that had surrendered 38 points to Franklin (who replaced their entire offense) and 43 points to John Carroll (who replaced their QB and RB behind a line that was less than average last season).  Based on what BW has brought to the table thru the first 3 weeks, the #1 team in the nation should have scored at will on BW.

Now, us longtime OAC guys know that BW has always played Mount tougher than the talent level and final records will indicate, but that was still a disappointing offensive performance Saturday night.  Even for me when I knew BW would play their best defensive game of the year against Mount. 

[rscl70]

Mount Union shut out a conference foe and lost a #1 vote in the Top 25 Poll.

Interesting...

And how can ONU be ranked higher than Capital?

ONU beat North Central (currently ranked 14) and lost to #13 Otterbein by 2 Points, and to MUC.  Shows that D3 Pollsters actually put some thought into their rankings.  Capital is 4-0, but have not beaten any ranked teams.

A week ago I would have bought this argument, but after giving up 34 points to Muskingum and just squeezing out a win I'm not convinced they should be ahead of Cap.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I stated, at the beginning of the year, that I thought UWW should be 1 and MUC should be 2.  UWW had more returning and MUC had to replace QB1 and RB1 (arguably two of the best ever at those positions at MUC).  Having to replace one or the other has been done in the past at MUC, but not both, that I can remember.

[seventiesraider]

I'm pretty sure LK would tell you that Mount shouldn't be ranked #1. They are a very strong football team but aren't hitting on all cylinders yet. Kick coverage is still lacking and even extra points aren't a given. As my Mogadore kids learned Friday night 50 something to 7, if you have a couple of glaring defiencies in your game, a good team will take advantage of them and bury you.  Although I seldom question LK, I think there has to be a decision about a starting QB soon. I don't think this duo is puzzling defenses anymore than the battling B's (Burghardt and Bruney)did, but they are confusing the offense.

As the playoffs get closer, My own thoughts are that Rocco needs the confidence of being the starter, not that there is anything wrong with Seaman. Hey, maybe Seaman comes in at the half in the Stagg and never looks back. Sound familiar?

I never bought the logic that you have to beat the champ to be the champ especially when teams change as much as they do in college through graduation. I'm not sure we are even 2nd right now

[Small but Slow]

Mount's #1 preseason rank replacing an All American backfield tandem is a compliment to LK and the program's ability to successfully reload.  It's the same argument as in the FBS.  Is Florida presently the best team in the nation, right now?  Probably not, but as long as they continue to win, impressively or not, its hard to knock them off their perch at the top.  At least in DIII we have the playoff system that truly determines which team is #1.  

[seventiesraider]

Anna Maria is making a bold move to try to replace Trinity Bible as the the 239th team in DIII football this week. 8)

[Wideout]

I hope they practice looking at other receivers and not throw into double all the time.
We hold on to the ball way to long, when does it start to sink in?
PUT SHORTS AT QB OVER AND DONE

[seventiesraider]

PUT SHORTS AT QB OVER AND DONE

Given the receivers that are left the only thing it could hurt is his NFL chances

[Desertraider]

Anna Maria is making a bold move to try to replace Trinity Bible as the the 239th team in DIII football this week. 8)

I urge the committee to reconsider Anna Maria as the 239th team in DIII. The bottom line is they do not have the history to deserve such a ranking. I am a Hiram College alum and if any team has worked diligently for the 239th spot it is the Unmighty Terriers! Since 1999 Hiram is 11-93 (6-59 NCAC and 0-9 OAC). In that span the terriers have recorded 5 perfect seasons (0-10 in 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007) while working on that difficult feat again this year (0-4 to date). In addition they have recorded no more than 3 wins in a season twice since 1999 (2001 and 2008). Prior to 1999 Hiram was just as deserving as I have already shown turning in 1 season with 5 victories in 1996 (maybe it was 1995) but surrounding that season with stellar seasons of 0-10, 1-9 and 0-10. The committee NEEDS to select Hiram College as the 239th team because...well everybody deserves to be known for something and Hiram is not known for anything athletically. The time has come to reward my Unmighty Terriers with a selection of distinction! Let them show they are worthy of being selected ahead of all others and I assure you, the Committee, they will make you proud and show they truly deserve to be #239!

All right I am done now. Back to real football.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Anna Maria is making a bold move to try to replace Trinity Bible as the the 239th team in DIII football this week. 8)

I urge the committee to reconsider Anna Maria as the 239th team in DIII. The bottom line is they do not have the history to deserve such a ranking. I am a Hiram College alum and if any team has worked diligently for the 239th spot it is the Unmighty Terriers! Since 1999 Hiram is 11-93 (6-59 NCAC and 0-9 OAC). In that span the terriers have recorded 5 perfect seasons (0-10 in 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007) while working on that difficult feat again this year (0-4 to date). In addition they have recorded no more than 3 wins in a season twice since 1999 (2001 and 2008). Prior to 1999 Hiram was just as deserving as I have already shown turning in 1 season with 5 victories in 1996 (maybe it was 1995) but surrounding that season with stellar seasons of 0-10, 1-9 and 0-10. The committee NEEDS to select Hiram College as the 239th team because...well everybody deserves to be known for something and Hiram is not known for anything athletically. The time has come to reward my Unmighty Terriers with a selection of distinction! Let them show they are worthy of being selected ahead of all others and I assure you, the Committee, they will make you proud and show they truly deserve to be #239!

All right I am done now. Back to real football.

IMO, Rockford could 'unbeat' any of those three!

They have so far been beaten by a 195-19 total by four quite undistinguished teams.

[Desertraider]

PUT SHORTS AT QB OVER AND DONE

Given the receivers that are left the only thing it could hurt is his NFL chances

I have no doubt Cecil could play the QB spot - but he is a dominant WR. With him at QB Mount become less of threat - not more (IMO). Putting Cecil at QB removes a deep threat that can stretch the field and makes Mount more one dimensional. Yes Claycomb and Petruziello are capable but Mount becomes a running attack with underneath wideouts. What they need is for Rocco or Seaman to emerge. I was hoping Rocco would develop as the season went along but he still looks like a "new" QB trying to figure things out.

[Desertraider]

Anna Maria is making a bold move to try to replace Trinity Bible as the the 239th team in DIII football this week. 8)

I urge the committee to reconsider Anna Maria as the 239th team in DIII. The bottom line is they do not have the history to deserve such a ranking. I am a Hiram College alum and if any team has worked diligently for the 239th spot it is the Unmighty Terriers! Since 1999 Hiram is 11-93 (6-59 NCAC and 0-9 OAC). In that span the terriers have recorded 5 perfect seasons (0-10 in 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007) while working on that difficult feat again this year (0-4 to date). In addition they have recorded no more than 3 wins in a season twice since 1999 (2001 and 2008). Prior to 1999 Hiram was just as deserving as I have already shown turning in 1 season with 5 victories in 1996 (maybe it was 1995) but surrounding that season with stellar seasons of 0-10, 1-9 and 0-10. The committee NEEDS to select Hiram College as the 239th team because...well everybody deserves to be known for something and Hiram is not known for anything athletically. The time has come to reward my Unmighty Terriers with a selection of distinction! Let them show they are worthy of being selected ahead of all others and I assure you, the Committee, they will make you proud and show they truly deserve to be #239!

All right I am done now. Back to real football.

IMO, Rockford could 'unbeat' any of those three!

They have so far been beaten by a 195-19 total by four quite undistinguished teams.

Okay - sounds bad. But Hiram has been beaten 191-44 with 27 of the 44 coming against Kenyon who is 1-4. Plus Hiram is virtually a lock to give up 450 points over the course of a season - every season! I guess the Earlham game on the 17th will be the test !

[Pat Coleman]

Anna Maria is making a bold move to try to replace Trinity Bible as the the 239th team in DIII football this week. 8)

Trinity Bible isn't a Division III team.

[seventiesraider]

Anna Maria is making a bold move to try to replace Trinity Bible as the the 239th team in DIII football this week. 8)

Trinity Bible isn't a Division III team.

Not only did Massey Ratings steer me totally wrong on this weeks picks, now I have to email them and get TB out of the DIII listing???  Ya can't even trust one of the revered BCS statisticians to get the listings right. Oh yeah we proved that year after year.

[seventiesraider]

How can any school with the guts to open their season against Haskell Indian Nations University, not be DIII

BTW Doesn't the word university make them seem more worldly and prestigous?