FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

reality check · October 24, 2009, 05:55:24 PM

Saintsfan

If ONU beats CAP and finishes 8-2, I think they've got a better shot than 2005. I checked back on some things from the 2005 campaign today after the game. It certainly helps that North Central handled Wheaton today. ONU's non-conf win is better. They've lost to MUC and OTT who are both rolling. Both games were tight contests. They'd be on a 7 game winning streak if they win out. I know the top 25 doesn't matter to the selection committee but ONU should be ranked higher at the end of the regular season in 2009 if they win out than they were in 2005 (#20 a the end of the regular season '05 vs. currently ranked #20 in '09).

I have to think they'll give the selection committee a LOT to think about if they finish strong.

mr_mom · October 24, 2009, 06:01:15 PM

Quote from: reality check on October 24, 2009, 04:43:43 PM
OTT kicks off and the ball only travels 18 yards to the OTT 48 where CAP takes over. I am so confused. Someone who was at the game will have to explain that one to me. Why on earth give CAP half the field with 38 seconds left? I hope the kicker lost his footing or something.

They tried a squib kick that managed to find a Cap up-man instead of empty space. Amazing Cap recovered it.

HScoach · October 24, 2009, 06:17:29 PM

Glad that Otterbein won today. Makes for a better match-up in two weeks in Alliance.

Not that this is going to shock anyone, but Wilmington really SUCKS.

rscl70 · October 24, 2009, 06:38:11 PM

Quote from: HScoach on October 24, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
Glad that Otterbein won today. Makes for a better match-up in two weeks in Alliance.

Not that this is going to shock anyone, but Wilmington really SUCKS.

OK, I agree, Wilmington SUCKS, but how the heck did they score 20 on Ott and 21 on Cap? The team we saw today can't be the one that played in those two games!

SaintsFAN · October 24, 2009, 06:47:45 PM

Quote from: rscl70 on October 24, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Quote from: HScoach on October 24, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
Glad that Otterbein won today. Makes for a better match-up in two weeks in Alliance.

Not that this is going to shock anyone, but Wilmington really SUCKS.

OK, I agree, Wilmington SUCKS, but how the heck did they score 20 on Ott and 21 on Cap? The team we saw today can't be the one that played in those two games!

and somehow they beat JCU... which sucks because I was hoping the JCU victory could be counted as a quality win for Thomas More.

oh well

Raider 68 · October 24, 2009, 06:52:46 PM

Quote from: rscl70 on October 24, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Quote from: HScoach on October 24, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
Glad that Otterbein won today. Makes for a better match-up in two weeks in Alliance.

Not that this is going to shock anyone, but Wilmington really SUCKS.

OK, I agree, Wilmington SUCKS, but how the heck did they score 20 on Ott and 21 on Cap? The team we saw today can't be the one that played in those two games!

Mount had a very good game on both sides of the ball against a Wilma team that just did not show up. The defense played very well and the 4 pics
was key. Mount's "D' needed this game to improve and be ready for
a good match-up against OTT.

ONU still has a good opportunity for the post season, but as mentioned
earlier it will depend on finishing 8-2 and how other conference races
look in the north. North Central looks very strong since their loss in ONU
in the first game and will be seeded high if the win out.

Kehresma · October 24, 2009, 08:15:18 PM

What did I tell ya? We were searching the field and sidelines for #41 today, and after the game the Kid says, Driskill had a good game today. Starts talking about that Raider punt that was plucked by our Special Teams and placed inside the Quakers' 1 yard line. I said, "That was Driskill?" He was wearing number 4 today. I wondered who that was. If I'm going to be Nick's number 3 fan, he's gotta tell me what number he's wearing.

Watch for him! I occasionally fret about Millings and Herbert going on into real life next year, but the prospect of Ferrara and Driskill tearing it up in 2010 puts a wicked smile on my face! 8)

reality check · October 24, 2009, 08:20:01 PM

It has little to do with how conferences finish in the North Region. It depends more on a national scale regarding 1 loss teams as non-champions of Pool A conferences. If there are a ton of AQ's and whatnot in the North, they could ship ONU (or OTT or CAP) to another region as they've done with OAC runner-ups plenty of times before in the past.

The only thing that has my hopes up this time around with 2005 in the back of my head is ONU's non-conf win over a rolling NCC team and the quality of losses is better than the 2005 campaign. Losing to JCU early in 2005 50-25 did them in as much as anything.

Of course, ONU needs to win out and that's what they'll focus on more than anything in Ada for the next few weeks.

HScoach · October 24, 2009, 08:32:28 PM

ONU has a shot at a 3rd OAC playoff spot if the the rest of the nation doesn't have a bunch of 9-1 runner-ups.

reality check · October 24, 2009, 08:44:14 PM

Jamal Robertson eclipsed the 1000 yard mark last night in Toronto's loss to the Tiger Cats. He is fifth in the CFL in rushing, tied for 4th in rushing TD's, first amongst RB's in receiving yards and receptions and fourth in yards from scrimmage on the season. He's been slowed down as of late but has two more games in the regular season.

SaintsFAN · October 24, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

Quote from: reality check on October 24, 2009, 08:20:01 PM
It has little to do with how conferences finish in the North Region. It depends more on a national scale regarding 1 loss teams as non-champions of Pool A conferences. If there are a ton of AQ's and whatnot in the North, they could ship ONU (or OTT or CAP) to another region as they've done with OAC runner-ups plenty of times before in the past.

Well said, rc. Many people don't get that its a puzzle they put together nationally.

BTW.... Coach Malone's all-time win record in Ohio fell last night in Ironton. Bob Lutz is now the all-time winningest coach in OHSAA history. I was supposed to be there with Coach Malone's daughter, Cathy.... there was to be a presentation of a plaque for him after the game (they were quite sure of the victory before-hand), but I didn't go because of the rain and a long day at the office.

Coach Malone couldn't make it either, hence them wanting his daughter to come... but a big record for Coach Lutz.. though I'll always feel like Coach Malone is the best in Ohio (opinoin)..

Dr. Acula · October 24, 2009, 10:05:18 PM

I know there have been a few posts congratulating Berg on the W today, but can someone explain what the h*ll is going in Berea these days? Let's look at a couple things:

--They are currently sitting at 2-5 and staring at road trips to Ada and Bexley still to come. When was the last time BW went 3-7? And no offense, but I'm having a hard time counting the Wilmington game as an automatic W considering how inconsistent those two teams are.

--The Jackets have allowed just under 29 points/game this year. They are allowing a TD more per game in their losses. What happened to that always solid BW D? And that goes beyond this year. It seems to be becoming a trend.

--Since Dan Larlham graduated after Snell's 2nd season he is 30-27 as of today. Is that where BW is? A .500 team unless they have a true superstar? It sure looks like it.

--One stat I didn't see mentioned was the decrease in my self esteem after I threw BW out in the preseason as a possible dark horse for 2nd in the OAC. I can safely tell you that decrease is substantial and I won't be making any predictions for a while.

theaprof · October 24, 2009, 10:17:24 PM

Was at the Wooster/Wabash game today--(daughter is a senior in the band at Wooster and it was parents weekend)--met LK's brother and chatted with him for a while. Nice guy--fairly easy to spot because he looks a bit like a smaller LK and he was wearing a Wabash jacket and Raider visor.

The whole game looked like it was being played in slow motion compared to a Mount game. Wabash was playing with a third string QB due to injuries and wouldn't have won by so much had it not been for several bonehead plays by Wooster--an interception thrown for a 10 yd TD right into the hands of the defender--a TD pass by Wabash where there wasn't a Wooster guy within 20 yards of the receiver, etc.

Wooster's D-backs were slow and slow to move to the ball--there were at least three Wabash passes that should have been picked but the d-backs didn't even move to the ball--it was like they were satisfied that the receiver had been missed and just watched the ball fall to the ground--no aggressive play at all. On the other hand, Wooster's QB really knew how to scramble and made Wabash's d-line look fairly vulnerable.

But, with the way things are looking right now, neither of those teams are likely for the playoffs since Witt is still undefeated.

Oh, and phooey on HSCoach for the spreads this week--this has got to be my worst year ever in the pick 'ems.

Raider 68 · October 24, 2009, 10:27:07 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on October 24, 2009, 10:05:18 PM
I know there have been a few posts congratulating Berg on the W today, but can someone explain what the h*ll is going in Berea these days? Let's look at a couple things:

--They are currently sitting at 2-5 and staring at road trips to Ada and Bexley still to come. When was the last time BW went 3-7? And no offense, but I'm having a hard time counting the Wilmington game as an automatic W considering how inconsistent those two teams are.

--The Jackets have allowed just under 29 points/game this year. They are allowing a TD more per game in their losses. What happened to that always solid BW D? And that goes beyond this year. It seems to be becoming a trend.

--Since Dan Larlham graduated after Snell's 2nd season he is 30-27 as of today. Is that where BW is? A .500 team unless they have a true superstar? It sure looks like it.

--One stat I didn't see mentioned was the decrease in my self esteem after I threw BW out in the preseason as a possible dark horse for 2nd in the OAC. I can safely tell you that decrease is substantial and I won't be making any predictions for a while.

Dr. Acula,

Your post is on target!

B-W's Athletic Dept and Administration need to take a long look at their program. I am not sure who the AD is, but it would require them to determine why they do not seem to be recruiting the enough top players. B-W is a good school with great academics and other competitive sports programs. I wonder where their Board of Trustees are on this, maybe they are not concerned as yet?

The greater Cleveland is abundant in talent, but that talent must be going elsewhere other than B-W and JCU. Since Mount and B-W are sister schools in the OAC, I would be contacting the right people at Mount as a model, much like UWW did early in the decade just to see what areas could be improved.

Yea, I know some would argue why help a rival, but it would help the conference if B-W could get their act together. Why not try to learn from the best.

It also begs the question, is the Snell era over, the results certainly are an indicator.

raiderpa · October 24, 2009, 10:53:00 PM

Unconfirmed report on Panchick is concussion, not that they have missed him..I still like Lemmon...

This kid Driskil is a stud, a frosh from Wabash, how did Raeburn let him get away....the kid who was earlier wearing #41, LaForce, I am told had severe knee injury...are you Raider fans aware that Shorts has another year of eligibility? I was not, but heard that last week. This true??

This #3 returner/wr for Mount looks to be incredibly good... another amazing frosh?

Ferrera looks good at Db, but have been a bit disappointed in Stewart.