FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

RC --- its a longshot, but possible.  If 'Gheny wins this weekend at Witt (no small accomplishment), they'll win the AQ by way of "Rose Bowl Rule" and then BOTH Witt and Wabash have good wins over Regionally ranked teams. 

Two teams MAYBE, but Three, not that likely.

[TooForRaider]

Now Suit,
Clinging to the past won't help your team on the field this year...

And besides, (in best Jack Nicholson voice)
YOU WANT ME ON THIS BOARD. YOU NEED ME ON THIS BOARD!

well, Mount is undefeated and #1 in the country this year.  Mount has the #1 rated QB this year.  Mount has the winningest coach ever this year.  Mount is the defending national champions again this year.  Mount is winning games 42-9 this year.

We can talk about the past, once your program has one.

"And if any of you touch my stuff....I'll kill ya!"

Lighten up Francis!

If you are this touchy when things are going this well, what will you do when Mount loses a game?

But all the emotion in the world doesn't change the fact that not one of the things you just mentioned will mean a thing when the game starts.

Might be right, but all of the things he mentioned mean everything right now.

[Blutarsky]

I haven't been on much because I have been busy at work, although that stupid bird as my avatar does annoy the heck out of me.  

I will be in Columbus this weekend for National Guard duty.  Not sure if I'll make it over to the game.  I skipped out on most of Saturday last month to catch the MUC-CAP game.  Probably not the best thing to do it two months in a row...

I think that if OTT really lost all those guys for the season, then they are in deep trouble, and it's possible that JCU could get them as well in week 10, which would leave the winner of this CAP-ONU matchup as OAC #2 and hard to leave out.  I know a lot of things have to happen in the next few weeks with some more teams losing, but it is possible...

For some reason, I don't think all of the injuries reported in the Dispatch are "season-ending".  I still think MUC/MUU/UMU is being duped by Coach Loth.  Several of the players reported as done for the year amazingly showed up on the two-deep published by the Otter SID.  Oh well, prepare for everyone.  As mentioned before, I hope they play.  No excuses, let the best team win.

[TooForRaider]

I haven't been on much because I have been busy at work, although that stupid bird as my avatar does annoy the heck out of me.  

I will be in Columbus this weekend for National Guard duty.  Not sure if I'll make it over to the game.  I skipped out on most of Saturday last month to catch the MUC-CAP game.  Probably not the best thing to do it two months in a row...

I think that if OTT really lost all those guys for the season, then they are in deep trouble, and it's possible that JCU could get them as well in week 10, which would leave the winner of this CAP-ONU matchup as OAC #2 and hard to leave out.  I know a lot of things have to happen in the next few weeks with some more teams losing, but it is possible...

For some reason, I don't think all of the injuries reported in the Dispatch are "season-ending".  I still think MUC/MUU/UMU is being duped by Coach Loth.  Several of the players reported as done for the year amazingly showed up on the two-deep published by the Otter SID.  Oh well, prepare for everyone.  As mentioned before, I hope they play.  No excuses, let the best team win.

Ott is just making sure the excuses are well documented before they lose. MUC doesn't put quotes in the paper if a player or player goes down. Someone else steps in and performs. The depth is a real asset.

[OldOtter]

I haven't been on much because I have been busy at work, although that stupid bird as my avatar does annoy the heck out of me.  

I will be in Columbus this weekend for National Guard duty.  Not sure if I'll make it over to the game.  I skipped out on most of Saturday last month to catch the MUC-CAP game.  Probably not the best thing to do it two months in a row...

I think that if OTT really lost all those guys for the season, then they are in deep trouble, and it's possible that JCU could get them as well in week 10, which would leave the winner of this CAP-ONU matchup as OAC #2 and hard to leave out.  I know a lot of things have to happen in the next few weeks with some more teams losing, but it is possible...

For some reason, I don't think all of the injuries reported in the Dispatch are "season-ending".  I still think MUC/MUU/UMU is being duped by Coach Loth.  Several of the players reported as done for the year amazingly showed up on the two-deep published by the Otter SID.  Oh well, prepare for everyone.  As mentioned before, I hope they play.  No excuses, let the best team win.

Ott is just making sure the excuses are well documented before they lose. MUC doesn't put quotes in the paper if a player or player goes down. Someone else steps in and performs. The depth is a real asset.

Obviously Mount would have more depth then Otterbein. You guys have won 10 National Championships!! That helps in recruiting just a wee bit. OC hasn't won a conference championship since 1946. It's tough to have a 3 deep team when you've only really began to turn your program in the right direction in the last couple seasons. OC is getting there, but obviously they aren't there yet. I feel like you guys are making up the excuses for why OC won't win the game, not any coach for Otterbein or player. Saying that the offense won't be as effective with a third string QB as it would with the starter isn't an excuse, it's a fact. Picture Mount without your goldenchild Rocco, or, even the back up Seaman. I have no idea who the third stringer is but I doubt he could produce like either of the first two could. And sure, you guys would still win some games, maybe all, but again, you do have that depth in your program. Man, I get tired of people in here saying that either the coaches and players talk too much about why they think they can hang with Mount (Schlosser) or that the coaches and players are making excuses for why the team is as banged up as it is. Come on

[TooForRaider]

I haven't been on much because I have been busy at work, although that stupid bird as my avatar does annoy the heck out of me.  

I will be in Columbus this weekend for National Guard duty.  Not sure if I'll make it over to the game.  I skipped out on most of Saturday last month to catch the MUC-CAP game.  Probably not the best thing to do it two months in a row...

I think that if OTT really lost all those guys for the season, then they are in deep trouble, and it's possible that JCU could get them as well in week 10, which would leave the winner of this CAP-ONU matchup as OAC #2 and hard to leave out.  I know a lot of things have to happen in the next few weeks with some more teams losing, but it is possible...

For some reason, I don't think all of the injuries reported in the Dispatch are "season-ending".  I still think MUC/MUU/UMU is being duped by Coach Loth.  Several of the players reported as done for the year amazingly showed up on the two-deep published by the Otter SID.  Oh well, prepare for everyone.  As mentioned before, I hope they play.  No excuses, let the best team win.

Ott is just making sure the excuses are well documented before they lose. MUC doesn't put quotes in the paper if a player or player goes down. Someone else steps in and performs. The depth is a real asset.

Obviously Mount would have more depth then Otterbein. You guys have won 10 National Championships!! That helps in recruiting just a wee bit. OC hasn't won a conference championship since 1946. It's tough to have a 3 deep team when you've only really began to turn your program in the right direction in the last couple seasons. OC is getting there, but obviously they aren't there yet. I feel like you guys are making up the excuses for why OC won't win the game, not any coach for Otterbein or player. Saying that the offense won't be as effective with a third string QB as it would with the starter isn't an excuse, it's a fact. Picture Mount without your goldenchild Rocco, or, even the back up Seaman. I have no idea who the third stringer is but I doubt he could produce like either of the first two could. And sure, you guys would still win some games, maybe all, but again, you do have that depth in your program. Man, I get tired of people in here saying that either the coaches and players talk too much about why they think they can hang with Mount (Schlosser) or that the coaches and players are making excuses for why the team is as banged up as it is. Come on

If you read my post, I belive it mentions the depth.
It still doesn't change the fact that Ott is making excuses. Same scenario with a different team and they might not make the same statements the Cards have been making. It is a given that there is going to be some dropoff as you get lower on the depth chart.

Might want to clarify your statement to read that you're tired of the players and coaches making the statements. I didn't say it, just referring to their comments.

I grew up in a house with three women, talk about "getting tired of people" when it is their time of the month.

[MUCheats]

I think 95% of teams at this level are going to play at a lower level if their first-string quarterback gets injured during the season and the next guy is thrown right into the fire.  It's not an excuse, it's reality, especially when talking about the QB position.  What seems obvious is that given the injury to Otterbein's quarterback last week, one way or another the Raiders probably aren't going to get the Cards' best shot on Saturday.  If he plays, he's probably playing injured.  And if he doesn't, well, obviously they're using a backup and not their best at the position.

Mount probably would have won the game either way, but we'll probably never know for sure.

[TooForRaider]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

[jam40jeff]

Two teams MAYBE, but Three, not that likely.

Actually, IF Allegheny wins, I think it is very likely that the NCAC ends up with three teams in the playoffs under the current circumstances.  That doesn't mean they deserve to or that they're better than the OAC, or that the OAC doesn't deserve three teams in the playoffs, but rather the reality of the selection process and how it would probably play out.

Of course, what's EXTREMELY unlikely is Allegheny beating Witt in the first place.

[OldOtter]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

You just contradicted yourself. You're saying that OC can't forsee or avoid the injury bug, which is true. But right before that you say they're using it as an excuse?!?!?! No one is making any excuses. Where, on any blog or newspaper, do you see coaches saying "You know it'd be great to play these guys full strength, BUT, since we're using our 3rd string QB we might as well not show up"

[theaprof]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

You just contradicted yourself. You're saying that OC can't forsee or avoid the injury bug, which is true. But right before that you say they're using it as an excuse?!?!?! No one is making any excuses. Where, on any blog or newspaper, do you see coaches saying "You know it'd be great to play these guys full strength, BUT, since we're using our 3rd string QB we might as well not show up"

I'm with you OldOtter --it doesn't sound to me like you are making excuses--just explaining the situation.  And I agree with you that it is unfair for MUC fans to brag about our depth.  It too is a fact of the times--but those times will change and someday we may be in the situation you are right now--wishing that your team was completely healthy so you could see if they really have what it takes to stay with the Raiders.

I wish the Cards were healthy too--I was looking forward to a tough game this weekend and was hoping that we would get to have a good challenge before the playoffs--unfortunately, because of the injuries, it doesn't look like that will be the case this weekend.

[TooForRaider]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

You just contradicted yourself. You're saying that OC can't forsee or avoid the injury bug, which is true. But right before that you say they're using it as an excuse?!?!?! No one is making any excuses. Where, on any blog or newspaper, do you see coaches saying "You know it'd be great to play these guys full strength, BUT, since we're using our 3rd string QB we might as well not show up"

Wow.

That is not a contradiction. They cannot foresee the injury bug. Yes. They are making excuses yes.

How is that a contradiction? (I'll save the pointless excess punctuation, because my words are stong enough to stand on their own). Two independent statements completely separate and not contradictory. Wow.

My initial post was to poke fun and invite some banter on this week's game, and I'm happy to say I've done that (no matter how weak it is).  

[TooForRaider]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

You just contradicted yourself. You're saying that OC can't forsee or avoid the injury bug, which is true. But right before that you say they're using it as an excuse?!?!?! No one is making any excuses. Where, on any blog or newspaper, do you see coaches saying "You know it'd be great to play these guys full strength, BUT, since we're using our 3rd string QB we might as well not show up"

I'm with you OldOtter --it doesn't sound to me like you are making excuses--just explaining the situation.  And I agree with you that it is unfair for MUC fans to brag about our depth.  It too is a fact of the times--but those times will change and someday we may be in the situation you are right now--wishing that your team was completely healthy so you could see if they really have what it takes to stay with the Raiders.

I wish the Cards were healthy too--I was looking forward to a tough game this weekend and was hoping that we would get to have a good challenge before the playoffs--unfortunately, because of the injuries, it doesn't look like that will be the case this weekend.

Seriously? Do some of you actually read the posts and take them in context? Where did I say Otter was making excuses?

And where did I brag about depth? I simply said it is an asset. I didn't say anything like "ooooh wow look at MUC with all their depth, we brag about it all the time." At least try to comment on something actually posted.

[reality check]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

Agree there.  ONU was down some key players in their loss to OTT but noone made excuses.  The Polar Bears lost a game they could have and should have won.  That's all that history will recall.  I hope for OTT's sake that they don't incur any more serious injuries in playing MUC because they can't afford to be even thinner if they're serious about a Pool C candidacy. 

[SaintsFAN]

I never said it wasn't reality. But it is, no matter how you look at it and the way it is being used, an excuse.

I wish Ott could give MUC their best shot, but the injury bug is something you cannot foresee or avoid.

Agree there.  ONU was down some key players in their loss to OTT but noone made excuses.  The Polar Bears lost a game they could have and should have won.  That's all that history will recall.  I hope for OTT's sake that they don't incur any more serious injuries in playing MUC because they can't afford to be even thinner if they're serious about a Pool C candidacy. 

We were told, RC, that its completely an after thought of how beat up teams get from playing MUC.