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Blutarsky

Quote from: jaypeter on November 11, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on November 11, 2009, 09:26:55 AM
Great article to cheerup a dull Marietta week. LK for UNLV? NOT

This may have been my favorite part, taken from the comments below the article:

"I've seen Kehres name mentioned several times mostly by one poster. The guy is a legend in Division III. The thing that I worry about is does he know how to recruit or does he know anybody that knows how to recruit. There are no scholorships in Div. III and therefore no recruitment."











No scholarships = no recruitment?  Damn, in some ways he has an even harder time recruiting since he not only has to sell the idea that the player might not get on the field, but may also have to pay $20K+ to ride the pine.

20 grand??  I could only wish...... :-[
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jaypeter

I was being generous.  I know that it's closer to being over $30k by the time the fees are added up, but there's few people who actually pay full price at any school. 

SaintsFAN

Quote from: reality check on November 11, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Has anyone ever considered that BW and JCU might benefit from new GOOD coaches and not just new FORMER RAIDERS as coaches.  If there's a Mount Union alum that is deserving of the spot, interested in the spot and a great fit for the program than yes, hire them.  If there's a coach with all those same dynamics that didn't go to MUC, hire them as well!!!  BW and JCU don't need a former MUC guy anymore than they just need something to change in their programs.  I'm not hating on giving a Mount guy the reigns, I just think I've read way too much that it needs to be a MUC guy.  It just needs to be a guy, any guy, that can change the ways things are going and bring back these programs to respectability.

Agreed.  Look at Marietta for further proof... Filkovski is not a "MUC guy" ---- he's from Allegheny.
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HScoach

Quote from: reality check on November 11, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Has anyone ever considered that BW and JCU might benefit from new GOOD coaches and not just new FORMER RAIDERS as coaches.  If there's a Mount Union alum that is deserving of the spot, interested in the spot and a great fit for the program than yes, hire them.  If there's a coach with all those same dynamics that didn't go to MUC, hire them as well!!!  BW and JCU don't need a former MUC guy anymore than they just need something to change in their programs.  I'm not hating on giving a Mount guy the reigns, I just think I've read way too much that it needs to be a MUC guy.  It just needs to be a guy, any guy, that can change the ways things are going and bring back these programs to respectability.

I completely agree.

I think the majority of statements about hiring a MUC guy is more about sticking it to BW and JCU than it is about trumpeting Mount.  Kind along the lines that BW/JCU can't produce anything of value so they might as well get a MUC guy to right their ship as obviously their own has sunk it.
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53K for me. It really sucks on a teachers/ football coaches salary.

jam40jeff

Quote from: Raider 68 on November 11, 2009, 10:23:24 AM
I do not buy what some are saying that both programs are having
problems recruiting due to other schools in Northeast Ohio.

I agree with most of what you said, but I think you're underestimating the effect this is having on these schools.  Between NDC and LEC both starting up football programs, and CWRU becoming a viable option for talented football players looking to continue their career, it HAS to spread the wealth out somewhat.  Add in the fact that NDC and LEC are D2 and can offer scholarships, and that makes it even harder to draw all of the talent these two schools previously had a monopoly on.

bleedpurple

Regional Committees Sharpening their pencils:

ONU now #8 in the North.
UWW now #1 in the West.

Blutarsky

Quote from: jaypeter on November 11, 2009, 11:50:35 AM
I was being generous.  I know that it's closer to being over $30k by the time the fees are added up, but there's few people who actually pay full price at any school. 

NOW you tell me.....
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Quote from: bleedpurple on November 11, 2009, 01:50:25 PM
Regional Committees Sharpening their pencils:

ONU now #8 in the North.
UWW now #1 in the West.

What is most interesting is they moved ONU to #8 and NCC to #9. It seems to me the regional committee moved NCC up to make ONU a stronger 2 loss team (now with a win over a regionally ranked opponent). Could be a pre-emptive move to get a 2 loss team in over a 1 loss w lesser SOS.

section13raiderfan

Quote from the Howie Chizek radio show this afternoon........"Akron U. defeated Mount Union by the score of 88 to 38. That is a basketball score folks, if it were football, the score would be reversed". Now thats funny! ;D I sure hope OSU wins this next one. A Rose Bowl is better than most other bowls.

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Raider 68

Quote from: HScoach on November 11, 2009, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: reality check on November 11, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
Has anyone ever considered that BW and JCU might benefit from new GOOD coaches and not just new FORMER RAIDERS as coaches.  If there's a Mount Union alum that is deserving of the spot, interested in the spot and a great fit for the program than yes, hire them.  If there's a coach with all those same dynamics that didn't go to MUC, hire them as well!!!  BW and JCU don't need a former MUC guy anymore than they just need something to change in their programs.  I'm not hating on giving a Mount guy the reigns, I just think I've read way too much that it needs to be a MUC guy.  It just needs to be a guy, any guy, that can change the ways things are going and bring back these programs to respectability.

I completely agree.

I think the majority of statements about hiring a MUC guy is more about sticking it to BW and JCU than it is about trumpeting Mount.  Kind along the lines that BW/JCU can't produce anything of value so they might as well get a MUC guy to right their ship as obviously their own has sunk it.

So what are the odds that both B-W and JCU will have new coaches?

HScoach, we could almost have a Pickem on this topic!

I agree that there are good coaches out there other than former Raiders who could be successful at B-W and JCU (per RC). The challenge is to find other programs that have coaches in waiting that have been very successful in addition to Mount at the D3 level. Most importantly, however,is to fix the programs with some top talent.
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raiderpa

The HC at Wittenberg is a fine coach and has restored that program.  I wonder if he would be interested in coming to the OAC?  I know LK has had high praise for his efforts at Witt.  I know Witt is a fine school, but would be interested to know if he thinks the OAC (BW/JCU) would be a lateral or  downward move...

MUCheats

Quote from: HScoach on November 11, 2009, 12:32:13 PMI think the majority of statements about hiring a MUC guy is more about sticking it to BW and JCU than it is about trumpeting Mount.  Kind along the lines that BW/JCU can't produce anything of value so they might as well get a MUC guy to right their ship as obviously their own has sunk it.

Good point.  It's a shame that no one from either school has made a name for themselves in football.  

It's not quite Division III ball, but these guys have done okay, I guess:

Maybe when Josh McDaniels is done with the Broncos (that's the NFL, perhaps you've heard of it?) he might be interested in coming back to his alma mater.  Or maybe Don Shula (also supposedly coached in this "NFL," too) can be enticed to come out of retirement?

As for B-W, maybe after Tressel is finished coaching at Ohio State (NCAA Division I, Big Ten, does that ring a bell?), he'll be interested in returning to his alma mater, as well?

TooForRaider

Quote from: raiderpa on November 11, 2009, 04:33:14 PM
The HC at Wittenberg is a fine coach and has restored that program.  I wonder if he would be interested in coming to the OAC?  I know LK has had high praise for his efforts at Witt.  I know Witt is a fine school, but would be interested to know if he thinks the OAC (BW/JCU) would be a lateral or  downward move...

Depends on the candidates definition of a downward move. The OAC's second playoff teams have had better success in the playoffs in the past 10 years than any of the NCAC schools......plus there aren't any all-male cheerleading squads dressed as Waldo.

I don't know what I'd do if my son decided to do that.........