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Quote from: reality check on November 15, 2009, 09:31:25 PM
I'm sorry.  Temper tantum?  Where did that happen?  I've said for three weeks running that I didn't think ONU was in because of the way the chips were falling.  If they would have made it in today, I'd be ecstatic but I don't feel snubbed at all.  The only issue I would have had is if ONU was sitting at home while OTT was invited.  And I'm okay with where ONU's place in this world.  They're sitting on 4 consecutive men's OAC All-Sports trophies which has never been accomplished twice consecutively.  We compete at the highest level at almost every sport in this conference and I'm proud of our competitive balance throughout.

Was the cheap shot calling you Regis?  You're right.  Calling anyone Regis Scafe might just be a low blow.


Oh and speaking of trophies, let me present you with an award of your own for your flawless use of mulitple emoticons in a single post.   Kudos to you sir!



OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  :o

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Raider 68 on November 15, 2009, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on November 15, 2009, 10:31:26 PM
Yes it is tough to get to the playoffs when you are in a conference with MUC.   But, how many other conferences right now are having the conversation that an 8-2 team deserves to be in the playoffs?  Even without MUC in the conference, there weren't any Pool C teams with more than one loss.

Pretty nice to say that if you can go 9-1 in conference and have a GREAT chance to make the playoffs.

All that talk is moot now.  I remember in the early 90s when there were only 28 teams in the playoffs and if you didn't win your conference you had ZERO chance of making the playoffs.

Here's to a Siriani vs. Kehres matchup in a game that actually counts!  I graduated with Mike Siriani and he is a great person, along with being a successful coach.

Just saw the brackets:

1. Surprized W & J made it, and now will play the Raiders in a real game.
    It will Coach Kehres vs. Coach Siriani. All the best, but it will not be that
    close for game #1.

2. I am disappointed for ONU, Coach Paul and RC, thought they were
    going to make the playoffs, but ONU finished strong
    will be up there in 2010.

3. The Mount Bracket appears weak again, not sure about Wittenberg, they
    could do well, but we will see.

4. Looks like MHB will have to win some big games for Mount to see them.

5. UWW playing a 6-4 team, how could that happen, and how could the
    NCAA make that call, must have been an AQ from a poor conference.
    Now that will be a scrimmage!

BINGO!!!

pradierguy

Nice TD catch by Pierre makes up for a lackluster game thus far.

mr_mom

Pierre with a beautiful "Sluggo" for a TD!
Never underestimate the stimulation of eccentricity.

Toby Taff

Quote from: bushman on November 15, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
Well lets see, all MHB has to do is win games against Linfield then St. Johns and finally UWW and then we can clash at the Stagg.   [Assuming Mt. gets there. ]    No problem  yeah right.  Guess we'll put that game on the back burner for at least another year.   RC, thundermom sends her regrets,  she really does like bears.  What ONU should do is schedule weak non conference teams and play for best record.  Safe philosophy since strength of schedule means nada to the committee .
That's not much more painful than the 04 trip to the Stagg Bowl.  Trinity, Hardin-Simmons, W&J, MUC, Linfield in the Stagg.  Taking that route is what really put MHB on the D3 map.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

MUCheats

Quote from: kirasdad on November 15, 2009, 10:31:26 PM
Yes it is tough to get to the playoffs when you are in a conference with MUC.   But, how many other conferences right now are having the conversation that an 8-2 team deserves to be in the playoffs?  Even without MUC in the conference, there weren't any Pool C teams with more than one loss.

Pretty nice to say that if you can go 9-1 in conference and have a GREAT chance to make the playoffs.

Ohio Northern didn't even make the playoffs when they were 8-2 the one year they did beat Mount Union.  Probably that loss in University Heights by 25 points to a Regis Scafe coached team that did them in.  I mean, how embarrassing, right?  Anyways, if it didn't happen then, and didn't happen this year, it's probably never going to happen.  Which means, like I've said now numerous times, there is no room for error in the OAC, and there is barely any room for more than one very good second place OAC team.  Because if there are three teams bubbling under in second place, and they all split with each other, the OAC is screwed.

And let's also remember that the only reason ONU came back into the playoff conversation is because Otterbein let them back in when the Cards lost to Marietta.  Because had they won that game, it wouldn't have mattered what they did against Mount Union.  There was no way an 8-2 (7-2) third place team was going to jump a 9-1 (8-1) second place team for a playoff spot.  So Polar Bear fan should be thankful that Otterbein, a team they lost to, even made it possible for them to sit on pins and needles today.

MUCheats

Quote from: bushman on November 15, 2009, 09:49:11 PMWhat ONU should do is schedule weak non conference teams and play for best record.  Safe philosophy since strength of schedule means nada to the committee .

The OAC only has one non-conference game.  It probably doesn't matter what the teams do with it.  Going the difficult route and winning didn't help ONU's case this year.  For the OAC, it's the conference play that makes or breaks it for them.

pradierguy

Quote from: Toby Taff on November 15, 2009, 11:03:36 PM
Quote from: bushman on November 15, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
Well lets see, all MHB has to do is win games against Linfield then St. Johns and finally UWW and then we can clash at the Stagg.   [Assuming Mt. gets there. ]    No problem  yeah right.  Guess we'll put that game on the back burner for at least another year.   RC, thundermom sends her regrets,  she really does like bears.  What ONU should do is schedule weak non conference teams and play for best record.  Safe philosophy since strength of schedule means nada to the committee .
That's not much more painful than the 04 trip to the Stagg Bowl.  Trinity, Hardin-Simmons, W&J, MUC, Linfield in the Stagg.  Taking that route is what really put MHB on the D3 map.

^^ This is why the "big" division needs a playoff system. Any team that beats that many quality teams is by far the #1 team in the land, however, you just don't know unless you face 'em all.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: kirasdad on November 15, 2009, 10:31:26 PM
Yes it is tough to get to the playoffs when you are in a conference with MUC.   But, how many other conferences right now are having the conversation that an 8-2 team deserves to be in the playoffs?  Even without MUC in the conference, there weren't any Pool C teams with more than one loss.

Pretty nice to say that if you can go 9-1 in conference and have a GREAT chance to make the playoffs.

All that talk is moot now.  I remember in the early 90s when there were only 28 teams in the playoffs and if you didn't win your conference you had ZERO chance of making the playoffs.

Here's to a Siriani vs. Kehres matchup in a game that actually counts!  I graduated with Mike Siriani and he is a great person, along with being a successful coach.

But that is true of ANY conference - there was only ONE team in the entire country with only one loss who did not make the playoffs.  And, by the published criteria, St. Norbert's has a pretty legitimate gripe over W & J getting in ahead of them.

Still, I wish they would give more attention to other published criteria rather than a virtually automatic one-loss in, two-losses out scenario.  I have little doubt that ONU (or for that matter, Ott or NCC) would beat W & J by 3+ TDs.

Toby Taff

Quote from: pradierguy on November 15, 2009, 11:09:43 PM
Quote from: Toby Taff on November 15, 2009, 11:03:36 PM
Quote from: bushman on November 15, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
Well lets see, all MHB has to do is win games against Linfield then St. Johns and finally UWW and then we can clash at the Stagg.   [Assuming Mt. gets there. ]    No problem  yeah right.  Guess we'll put that game on the back burner for at least another year.   RC, thundermom sends her regrets,  she really does like bears.  What ONU should do is schedule weak non conference teams and play for best record.  Safe philosophy since strength of schedule means nada to the committee .
That's not much more painful than the 04 trip to the Stagg Bowl.  Trinity, Hardin-Simmons, W&J, MUC, Linfield in the Stagg.  Taking that route is what really put MHB on the D3 map.

^^ This is why the "big" division needs a playoff system. Any team that beats that many quality teams is by far the #1 team in the land, however, you just don't know unless you face 'em all.
Of course Linfield won the Stagg, but you are absolutely right about the big divisions needing a playoff.  I live in a community with 2 D3 teams and a D2.  Every college player in this town plays for a real championship.  (That said, this is the area that produced Colt McCoy of Texas, Case Keenum of the Univ of Houston, Taylor Potts of Texas Tech, and Jevon Sneed of Old Miss...none of which will see a "real" college championship game as a player)
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

reality check

Quote from: CarrollStreaks on November 15, 2009, 10:57:49 PM

OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  :o

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.


Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.  

70-0 still has to sting. 

Doeder?  Doeder?  Doeder?
OAC Champs: 1942 (one title ties us with Ohio State)
OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
MOL Champs: 1952, 1950

FloridaRaider

The colts played a hell of a game tonight. I almost went to bed at half time, but boy am I glad I stayed up for that one. Pierres touchdown was nasty.

runyr

Great game tonight in Indy.  Colts go ahead 35-34 with 13 seconds to play to win it.
Special thanks go to Coach Belichick for the assist!  ::)
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."  Confucius

Dr. Acula

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Quote from: reality check on November 15, 2009, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: CarrollStreaks on November 15, 2009, 10:57:49 PM

OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  :o

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.


Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.  

70-0 still has to sting.  

Doeder?  Doeder?  Doeder?

Hahaha!  Maybe, just maybe...

Dr. Acula

Quote from: runyr on November 15, 2009, 11:57:42 PM
Great game tonight in Indy.  Colts go ahead 35-34 with 13 seconds to play to win it.
Special thanks go to Coach Belichick for the assist!  ::)

Between that and leaving at least 10 points (probably) on the field thanks to horrible red zone turnovers the Pats are going to be kicking themselves.