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[MUCheats]

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

You missed the point, of course.  Or maybe you're in denial about the reality that a supposedly bad Otterbein squad punked your Polar Bears and prevented them from qualifying for the postseason.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.

Whoa, you told me.  And you only had to go back ten years for that!  I'm sorry I forgot about ONU's great run to the third round of the playoffs in 1999.  I'm surprised you didn't list that accomplishment in your profile beside all of those times you finished as OAC runners-up!

Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

As someone who spent four years (or more) in Ada, it comes as no surprise that you would think of yourself as an expert on all things slack-jaw.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.

Of course we won't.  Obviously you're real proud of those other sports programs that have carried ONU to those four straight all-sports trophies.  

70-0 still has to sting.

No it doesn't sting, because unlike you, I'm not a Mount Union slurper and I realize that there is more to a football season than one game against the Purple Raiders.  Is this an institutional issue at ONU?  Perhaps if you guys put more focus on the other big games, like John Carroll, Capital, and Otterbein, you would have made the playoffs this year and in 2005 and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[PurpleSuit]

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

You missed the point, of course.  Or maybe you're in denial about the reality that a supposedly bad Otterbein squad punked your Polar Bears and prevented them from qualifying for the postseason.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.

Whoa, you told me.  And you only had to go back ten years for that!  I'm sorry I forgot about ONU's great run to the third round of the playoffs in 1999.  I'm surprised you didn't list that accomplishment in your profile beside all of those times you finished as OAC runners-up!

Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

As someone who spent four years (or more) in Ada, it comes as no surprise that you would think of yourself as an expert on all things slack-jaw.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.

Of course we won't.  Obviously you're real proud of those other sports programs that have carried ONU to those four straight all-sports trophies.  

70-0 still has to sting.

No it doesn't sting, because unlike you, I'm not a Mount Union slurper and I realize that there is more to a football season than one game against the Purple Raiders.  Is this an institutional issue at ONU?  Perhaps if you guys put more focus on the other big games, like John Carroll, Capital, and Otterbein, you would have made the playoffs this year and in 2005 and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

can we get along guys?  we're all OAC here, lets agree on a few things: 1) ONU should have been in the playoffs, but blew it with the OTT loss and 2) JCU is a shell of the program they once were and fading....save the venom for posters like the one that rhymes with PleedBurple

[TooForRaider]

OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.


Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.  

70-0 still has to sting. 

Doeder?  Doeder?  Doeder?

HAS to sting.........still.....love it.

[MUCheats]

OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.


Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.  

70-0 still has to sting. 

Doeder?  Doeder?  Doeder?

HAS to sting.........still.....love it.

When Mount Union is naming their score and shutting out their opponents on a weekly basis, one 70 spot doesn't hurt that much.  That game, in the grand scheme of things, meant very little.  It stings much less than a 50-25 loss to a team coached by a guy that is now an apparent OAC laughingstock, especially considering that loss in all "reality" prevented said team from earning a playoff berth.

[MUCheats]

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

You missed the point, of course.  Or maybe you're in denial about the reality that a supposedly bad Otterbein squad punked your Polar Bears and prevented them from qualifying for the postseason.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.

Whoa, you told me.  And you only had to go back ten years for that!  I'm sorry I forgot about ONU's great run to the third round of the playoffs in 1999.  I'm surprised you didn't list that accomplishment in your profile beside all of those times you finished as OAC runners-up!

Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

As someone who spent four years (or more) in Ada, it comes as no surprise that you would think of yourself as an expert on all things slack-jaw.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.

Of course we won't.  Obviously you're real proud of those other sports programs that have carried ONU to those four straight all-sports trophies.  

70-0 still has to sting.

No it doesn't sting, because unlike you, I'm not a Mount Union slurper and I realize that there is more to a football season than one game against the Purple Raiders.  Is this an institutional issue at ONU?  Perhaps if you guys put more focus on the other big games, like John Carroll, Capital, and Otterbein, you would have made the playoffs this year and in 2005 and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

can we get along guys?  we're all OAC here, lets agree on a few things: 1) ONU should have been in the playoffs, but blew it with the OTT loss and 2) JCU is a shell of the program they once were and fading....save the venom for posters like the one that rhymes with PleedBurple

Good point.  As a fan of all things Ohio, especially the great football tradition in this part of the country, I always enjoy seeing Mount Union represent the state well.  Though I won't be basking in the reflective glory as an OAC fan, like some people will be.

[09 Polar Bear]

OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.


Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.  

70-0 still has to sting. 

Doeder?  Doeder?  Doeder?

HAS to sting.........still.....love it.

When Mount Union is naming their score and shutting out their opponents on a weekly basis, one 70 spot doesn't hurt that much.  That game, in the grand scheme of things, meant very little.  It stings much less than a 50-25 loss to a team coached by a guy that is now an apparent OAC laughingstock, especially considering that loss in all "reality" prevented said team from earning a playoff berth.

i guess no that I am officially an alum, I can actually start participating in these dialogues instead of simply reading them and laughing or pondering the different speculations

CarrollStreaks is right, we didnt get into the playoffs in 2005, even when we beat mount, but that had more to do with the NCAA Sanctions from when coach Kaz and his staff were turned into the NCAA by the University for holding illegal practices than it did strength of schedule.

Another key difference this year was that ONU lost to the #1 and #9 ranked team in the country, and because of how the strength of schedule plays out along with how they finished the season, those two losses are still better than W&J losing to a team that is possibly unranked or ranked near the higher end of the top 25.

Either way I can assure you of two things:
1) Being in the conference room today to find out you didnt make the playoffs, while a 6-4 team reeived an automatic bid and the at large bids went to a number of 9-1 teams who will be crushed by anyone decent is absolutely sickening
2) CarrollStreaks should be angry for the way his team plays--Coach Scafe is a true student of the game, it is simply a lack of execution by his players

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Welcome Andrew!  Congratulations on a successful career at ONU!!

[bleedpurple]

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

You missed the point, of course.  Or maybe you're in denial about the reality that a supposedly bad Otterbein squad punked your Polar Bears and prevented them from qualifying for the postseason.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.

Whoa, you told me.  And you only had to go back ten years for that!  I'm sorry I forgot about ONU's great run to the third round of the playoffs in 1999.  I'm surprised you didn't list that accomplishment in your profile beside all of those times you finished as OAC runners-up!

Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

As someone who spent four years (or more) in Ada, it comes as no surprise that you would think of yourself as an expert on all things slack-jaw.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.

Of course we won't.  Obviously you're real proud of those other sports programs that have carried ONU to those four straight all-sports trophies.  

70-0 still has to sting.

No it doesn't sting, because unlike you, I'm not a Mount Union slurper and I realize that there is more to a football season than one game against the Purple Raiders.  Is this an institutional issue at ONU?  Perhaps if you guys put more focus on the other big games, like John Carroll, Capital, and Otterbein, you would have made the playoffs this year and in 2005 and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

can we get along guys?  we're all OAC here, lets agree on a few things: 1) ONU should have been in the playoffs, but blew it with the OTT loss and 2) JCU is a shell of the program they once were and fading....save the venom for posters like the one that rhymes with PleedBurple

Good point.  As a fan of all things Ohio, especially the great football tradition in this part of the country, I always enjoy seeing Mount Union represent the state well.  Though I won't be basking in the reflective glory as an OAC fan, like some people will be.

I just love how I can bring people together!

All together now: Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya....   

[HScoach]

OTTERBEIN BEAT OHIO NORTHERN!

Anyways, keep talking smack and poking fun at Coach Scafe.  At least one of his better teams did something that ONU football has never done, that is, get in the playoffs (that part's important, silly Polar Bear fan) and win a few games.  

Now this is the part where you start talking about other sports or regular season accomplishments again.  None of that matters.  This upcoming Saturday, you and Dean Paul can wear your matching Mount Union sweatshirts and cheer on your beloved Raiders as they embark on another playoff run.  Because that's the closest either one of you, or any other Ohio Northern fan, is going to ever get to making a nice playoff run of your own as long as you keep genuflecting to the Purple gods.

Have fun with that.  I'll see you on the basketball forum.

Good job Skippy.  OTT did beat ONU.  I bet you tie your own shoes too!  I'm so proud of you.

But seriously... you're an idiot.  ONU won two games in 1999 when they went 11-2 before bowing out to MUC in the third round.  They've never had the fortune of being shipped out of MUC's bracket so that they could make a run.   So by definition, they've done exactly what you say they have never done.  More stellar analysis on your part.


Usually we get to listen to other slack-jaws that come in here around playoff time saying stupid stuff and entertaining everyone.  Instead it's a newbie Streaks fan that has the honor.

And you won't be seeing me in the hoops forum.  Thank God.  You can stay over there as long as you want.  

70-0 still has to sting. 

Doeder?  Doeder?  Doeder?

HAS to sting.........still.....love it.

When Mount Union is naming their score and shutting out their opponents on a weekly basis, one 70 spot doesn't hurt that much.  That game, in the grand scheme of things, meant very little.  It stings much less than a 50-25 loss to a team coached by a guy that is now an apparent OAC laughingstock, especially considering that loss in all "reality" prevented said team from earning a playoff berth.

^ Other than the word "apparent", that's the most accurate thing you've posted to date.

[reality check]

Andrew

Welcome aboard.  You've had a great run at ONU and I hope you stick around.  We could use another regular representing our Polar Bears.  Agree with just about everything you said.  I've always wondered how the Englewood/Miamisburg thing worked out.  Why not Northmont? 

[PurpleSuit]

Pierre was just on ESPN's First Take talking about last nights game....should be re-aired a little after noon

[09 Polar Bear]

Andrew

Welcome aboard.  You've had a great run at ONU and I hope you stick around.  We could use another regular representing our Polar Bears.  Agree with just about everything you said.  I've always wondered how the Englewood/Miamisburg thing worked out.  Why not Northmont? 

used to live in the good ole' Burg, the family moved to Boly country the summer after I graduated. my little brother had the opportunity to play for Coach Schneider, but really didnt take advantage of it. Oh well

RC, Ive read that you are a CJ alum......what year if you dont mind me asking? my mother and aunt all went there in the late 70s and my grandmother worked there as a secretary at the same time

[Raider 68]

Andrew

Welcome aboard.  You've had a great run at ONU and I hope you stick around.  We could use another regular representing our Polar Bears.  Agree with just about everything you said.  I've always wondered how the Englewood/Miamisburg thing worked out.  Why not Northmont? 

used to live in the good ole' Burg, the family moved to Boly country the summer after I graduated. my little brother had the opportunity to play for Coach Schneider, but really didnt take advantage of it. Oh well

RC, Ive read that you are a CJ alum......what year if you dont mind me asking? my mother and aunt all went there in the late 70s and my grandmother worked there as a secretary at the same time

Welcome Andrew,

RC will have some company!

[JK]

Sorry, been a bit busy lately...

Someone already mentioned, but congrats to Dominic D'Andrea for becoming only the second RB in Capital's history to go over 1000 yards rushing on the year.  Yes, you read that correctly.  The SECOND.  THere were others who were close (I blocked for a guy we got to 900- Jason Lizzi), and ended up with 1st Team all OAC on their resumes like O'Bryant O'Neal, Rayshaun Gayles, and COlin O'Riley but only Goodman and D'Andrea have hit the 1000 yard mark.  Pretty amazing.  Really amazing that despite that, he might not even get 1st team all OAC with 4 going over 1000.

I think it also bears mention that Capital just finished their most successful DECADE in football with 72 wins in 107 games.  THat is far and away the most wins in a decade.  The second most wins was the 80's when they had 49.  So, in other words, the 00's was the FIRST winning decade in Cap football history.  Many thanks to Coach Bickel and especially Coach Collins for that.

I personally think ONU got jobbed, but you know, that's the way it works.  We say every year in this forum, if you lose to someone other than MUC, you really take your chances.  Any less than 9-1 is asking to be left out.  Capital got the good end of it in 2005 and that's really been the only time, ONU has been snubbed a couple of different times.  I know it is frustrating, but that is what we live with.  No system is perfect, but I'd rather have this discussion than the inane BCS discussions in D1.

I am kinda glad now that ONU beat Cap so I wouldn't be the one feeling like we got jobbed at 8-2... (nah, not really...)

CarrollStreaks-
Chill man.  None of the non-MUC faithful kotow to the purple machine in here, especially Reality.  In fact, he is one of the few who will stand up to the MUC fans with good arguments, hence his longevity in here.  You seem equipped to carry on intelligent conversations supported by facts, just don't let your emotions get the best of you.  And then, don't inflame the situation by getting bent when someone responds in a way you don't like.

Oh, and not to come off as a jerk, but I visit the hoops boards pretty regularly, especially the last few years with Cap's basketball program being at or near the top of the conference.  I haven't ever seen you in there...  There were some great Cap-JCU hoops battles the last few years that I would have loved to talk about, but no one engaged me other than a few Wooster guys who live in the C-Bus area and went to the games.

How much longer do I have to keep this stupid bird in my profile???

[Shark]

I just listened to the playoff podcast with Pat and Keith. BTW, thanks guys for everything you do with this site. I was hoping to hear some rationale as to why ONU as the 13th rated team nationally was not in the playoffs. There was no good reason. There is no way W&J goes 9-1 in the OAC and their SOS is simply pitiful. I'm not sure what the committee's goal was but it could not have been to place the best teams in the playoffs. It looks like the cupcake schedule is rewarded. Oberlin may be in demand for future non –conference scheduling.

I really would have liked to have seen an ONU-Witt matchup and to see how far the polar bears could have gone.