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seventiesraider

My gut says Mount takes away the run and the short passing game to try to force Wesley into a longer passing game. Montclair came in trying to establish a running game and after a bunch of three and outs the game was out of hand. I've not had an opportunity to really study the stats, but Larry (and Vince) like most good coaches will allow you to do what you do worst.

Defensively, if you come too hard, you'll see Shorts, Claycombe or Petruziella or even the TE's running under some bombs.  If you try to double up on anyone receiver, someone else will have a field day

I don't think anybody is taking Wesley lightly
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Raider 68

Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2009, 08:19:04 PM
ok mount guys, i posted my thoughts on what to expect from wesley, what can us wesley folk expect to see when we get to the game besides way too many purple people on the away team side of the field.  what kind of game will it be if wesley can get a push from the d line on both run and pass plays.  if wesley were to take one away, which would you suggest?  if wesley can rush for 100+ yards, will they control the game?

I will be meeting skunks and sidekick for breakfast, but would also like to stop by and visit some of the tailgates after we have our margaritas and eggs breakfast.  Last year when I visited I saw that the lot was pretty full, where is the best place to stop by for tailgating and where should we park when we get to the field?  We will have our own beverage of choice, likely a good microbrew beer and would like to meet some of you.  I am not sure how many Wesley folk are making the trip so we will be easy to find, wearing a lot of #13 stuff, me with the jersey on.  Let me know where to go for a good pregame chat about how Wesley is slay the giant. :D

wesleydad,

No doubt you will receive some feefback from several Mount supporters
Here are a few IMHO:

1. If Wesley can get a huge push from the D line on both running and
    passing situations, then your team will accomplish what no other
    has. There have been a few defenses that sent 5 on blizes, and reguired
    Mount to keep the passing game to shorter routes. The converse of
    that was that Mount was able to run more and play-action until
     the defenses rushed with the normal four D line.

2. Mount offense has proven to move the ball both by the run and pass, but
    the talented receivers and passing efficiency have been impressive.
    Therefore try to stop the run.

3. I am  not sure how many teams have rushed for over 100 yards, except
    maybe ONU did early in the season. The other posters can verify, but   
     in the last 7 games, the run defense in well under 100 yds per game.

4. To keep the Game close, Wesley will have to score early, make no
    mistakes, capitalize on any turnovers, control the ball and then play
    lights out defense. Perhaps most important, make quick strategic
    game adjustments, based upon field position, take what the defense
    allows. Three step drop passes only, since the Raider defensive ends
    have lighning speed to the ball.

If Wesley cannot do the above, it could be a long afternoon.
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seventiesraider

#26102
Wow, where's Carroll Streaks? Mount Union men's b-ball just knocked off #2 ranked JCU (and the Mount women are leading)

ADDED: Mount women beat JCU to go 7-0/3-0.
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

PurpleSuit

Quote from: seventiesraider on December 09, 2009, 09:21:00 PM
Wow, where's Carroll Streaks? Mount Union men's b-ball just knocked off #2 ranked JCU (and the Mount women are leading)

ADDED: Mount women beat JCU to go 7-0/3-0.

quit being arrogant....

but back to the football game.  Talked with the Mount OC, and is a little concerned about the game this weekend.  So I wouldn't be surpriseed to see the playbook opened up. 

I'm predicting big things for Cecil....a stretch I know

TooForRaider

Quote from: PurpleSuit on December 10, 2009, 01:40:48 AM
Quote from: seventiesraider on December 09, 2009, 09:21:00 PM
Wow, where's Carroll Streaks? Mount Union men's b-ball just knocked off #2 ranked JCU (and the Mount women are leading)

ADDED: Mount women beat JCU to go 7-0/3-0.

quit being arrogant....

but back to the football game.  Talked with the Mount OC, and is a little concerned about the game this weekend.  So I wouldn't be surpriseed to see the playbook opened up. 

I'm predicting big things for Cecil....a stretch I know

When did you talk to the OC?

I'd imagine they'd be concerned, if only because its the final four.

footballfan413

In honor of your game against Wesley, I thought I would share a fun story from the 06 semi final between the Wolverines and the Warhawks.  (Sorry, Welseydad.  I know you are a great guy and hope you take this in the humor that it is intended. )

Welsey had stopped the Hawks on 3rd down and their choice was to punt the ball or have Schebler attempt a 49 yard FG. 
The Hawks decided to punt and so they put the punt team on the field and then took a delay of game penalty to get 5 more yards of beathing room for the punter as it was a short field.  Coach Drass decided, (I guess, that he didn't want to make it any easier on the Hawks than necessary,) to decline the penalty.  So the Hawks coaching staff changed their minds, pulled the punt team off, sent Schebler and Co. out deciding to kick the FG after all. We tacked 3 more points on the board that clearly could have been avoided by the Wolverines and the Hawks stands went up for grabs.  It was hilarious and Drass looked pretty foolish, IMO.  I'll bet he wishes he could take that one back to this day.   ;) :D ;D
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!"  Dennis Miller

"Three things you don't want to be in football, slow, small and friendly!"  John Madden

"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in
life." Paul Dietzel / LSU

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
In honor of your game against Wesley, I thought I would share a fun story from the 06 semi final between the Wolverines and the Warhawks.  (Sorry, Welseydad.  I know you are a great guy and hope you take this in the humor that it is intended. )

Welsey had stopped the Hawks on 3rd down and their choice was to punt the ball or have Schebler attempt a 49 yard FG. 
The Hawks decided to punt and so they put the punt team on the field and then took a delay of game penalty to get 5 more yards of beathing room for the punter as it was a short field.  Coach Drass decided, (I guess, that he didn't want to make it any easier on the Hawks than necessary,) to decline the penalty.  So the Hawks coaching staff changed their minds, pulled the punt team off, sent Schebler and Co. out deciding to kick the FG after all. We tacked 3 more points on the board that clearly could have been avoided by the Wolverines and the Hawks stands went up for grabs.  It was hilarious and Drass looked pretty foolish, IMO.  I'll bet he wishes he could take that one back to this day.   ;) :D ;D

Not a bad call by the Wesley coach.  Just unlucky that UWW made the FG.  Why give the UWW punter the benefit by accepting the penalty?  What point of the game did this happen?
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Desertraider

Quote from: Raider 68 on December 09, 2009, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 09, 2009, 08:19:04 PM
ok mount guys, i posted my thoughts on what to expect from wesley, what can us wesley folk expect to see when we get to the game besides way too many purple people on the away team side of the field.  what kind of game will it be if wesley can get a push from the d line on both run and pass plays.  if wesley were to take one away, which would you suggest?  if wesley can rush for 100+ yards, will they control the game?

I will be meeting skunks and sidekick for breakfast, but would also like to stop by and visit some of the tailgates after we have our margaritas and eggs breakfast.  Last year when I visited I saw that the lot was pretty full, where is the best place to stop by for tailgating and where should we park when we get to the field?  We will have our own beverage of choice, likely a good microbrew beer and would like to meet some of you.  I am not sure how many Wesley folk are making the trip so we will be easy to find, wearing a lot of #13 stuff, me with the jersey on.  Let me know where to go for a good pregame chat about how Wesley is slay the giant. :D

wesleydad,

No doubt you will receive some feefback from several Mount supporters
Here are a few IMHO:

1. If Wesley can get a huge push from the D line on both running and
    passing situations, then your team will accomplish what no other
    has. There have been a few defenses that sent 5 on blizes, and reguired
    Mount to keep the passing game to shorter routes. The converse of
    that was that Mount was able to run more and play-action until
     the defenses rushed with the normal four D line.

2. Mount offense has proven to move the ball both by the run and pass, but
    the talented receivers and passing efficiency have been impressive.
    Therefore try to stop the run.

3. I am  not sure how many teams have rushed for over 100 yards, except
    maybe ONU did early in the season. The other posters can verify, but   
     in the last 7 games, the run defense in well under 100 yds per game.

4. To keep the Game close, Wesley will have to score early, make no
    mistakes, capitalize on any turnovers, control the ball and then play
    lights out defense. Perhaps most important, make quick strategic
    game adjustments, based upon field position, take what the defense
    allows. Three step drop passes only, since the Raider defensive ends
    have lighning speed to the ball.

If Wesley cannot do the above, it could be a long afternoon.

The biggest mistake that Wesley could make IMHO is to decide they are going to shut down Cecil. He is a threat - but I think he is the 2nd best WR on the team. Petruziello is lights out and catches eveything. If you put 2 on Cecil, VP will make you pay. Then you adjust andf Cecil smokes you deep. Wesley has to be able to shut down Cecil and VP with man coverage - zone won't work on this MUC team (too many threats downfield) - and get pressure upfront for coverage sacks. Take away the pass and put MUC in 3rd and longs with the running game and they have a shot. But you also have to control the ball - TOs will kill you against Mount. Gotta play the perfect game.
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footballfan413

#26108
Quote from: kirasdad on December 10, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
In honor of your game against Wesley, I thought I would share a fun story from the 06 semi final between the Wolverines and the Warhawks.  (Sorry, Welseydad.  I know you are a great guy and hope you take this in the humor that it is intended. )

Welsey had stopped the Hawks on 3rd down and their choice was to punt the ball or have Schebler attempt a 49 yard FG.  
The Hawks decided to punt and so they put the punt team on the field and then took a delay of game penalty to get 5 more yards of beathing room for the punter as it was a short field.  Coach Drass decided, (I guess, that he didn't want to make it any easier on the Hawks than necessary,) to decline the penalty.  So the Hawks coaching staff changed their minds, pulled the punt team off, sent Schebler and Co. out deciding to kick the FG after all. We tacked 3 more points on the board that clearly could have been avoided by the Wolverines and the Hawks stands went up for grabs.  It was hilarious and Drass looked pretty foolish, IMO.  I'll bet he wishes he could take that one back to this day.   ;) :D ;D

Not a bad call by the Wesley coach.  Just unlucky that UWW made the FG.  Why give the UWW punter the benefit by accepting the penalty?  What point of the game did this happen?
FG scored at the 7:09 mark of the 1st quarter.  Score was 7-0, UWW, at the time.  Guess I would rather give the punter the benefit than the FG kicker but I'm guessing he didn't realize the consequences of that decision at the time.  Afterall, the punter is giving me the ball back,   ;D
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!"  Dennis Miller

"Three things you don't want to be in football, slow, small and friendly!"  John Madden

"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in
life." Paul Dietzel / LSU

Desertraider

One more thought - give Mount a short field and it will be over before it starts. Good teams have come into MUC and been made to look below average - great teams have been made to look average. I am not trying to be arrogant but even when things look like they have gone "right" you can still lose to MUC (the Rowan- I think it was Rowan- game with the time of possession and all the stats in favor of Rowan yet they lost).
RIP MUC57 - Go Everybody!
National Champions: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017
The Autumn Wind is a Raider!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEYK_XjyLg
Immaculate Prevention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLq_acsVN0

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 10, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
In honor of your game against Wesley, I thought I would share a fun story from the 06 semi final between the Wolverines and the Warhawks.  (Sorry, Welseydad.  I know you are a great guy and hope you take this in the humor that it is intended. )

Welsey had stopped the Hawks on 3rd down and their choice was to punt the ball or have Schebler attempt a 49 yard FG.  
The Hawks decided to punt and so they put the punt team on the field and then took a delay of game penalty to get 5 more yards of beathing room for the punter as it was a short field.  Coach Drass decided, (I guess, that he didn't want to make it any easier on the Hawks than necessary,) to decline the penalty.  So the Hawks coaching staff changed their minds, pulled the punt team off, sent Schebler and Co. out deciding to kick the FG after all. We tacked 3 more points on the board that clearly could have been avoided by the Wolverines and the Hawks stands went up for grabs.  It was hilarious and Drass looked pretty foolish, IMO.  I'll bet he wishes he could take that one back to this day.   ;) :D ;D

Not a bad call by the Wesley coach.  Just unlucky that UWW made the FG.  Why give the UWW punter the benefit by accepting the penalty?  What point of the game did this happen?
FG scored at the 7:09 mark of the 1st quarter.  Score was 7-0, UWW, at the time.  Guess I would rather give the punter the benefit than the FG kicker but I'm guessing he didn't realize the consequences of that decision at the time.   :D

Ended up being 44-7 so probably not too impactful (did I just make up a word?).  Probably thought it was out of Schebler's range.
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footballfan413

Quote from: kirasdad on December 10, 2009, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 10, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
In honor of your game against Wesley, I thought I would share a fun story from the 06 semi final between the Wolverines and the Warhawks.  (Sorry, Welseydad.  I know you are a great guy and hope you take this in the humor that it is intended. )

Welsey had stopped the Hawks on 3rd down and their choice was to punt the ball or have Schebler attempt a 49 yard FG.  
The Hawks decided to punt and so they put the punt team on the field and then took a delay of game penalty to get 5 more yards of beathing room for the punter as it was a short field.  Coach Drass decided, (I guess, that he didn't want to make it any easier on the Hawks than necessary,) to decline the penalty.  So the Hawks coaching staff changed their minds, pulled the punt team off, sent Schebler and Co. out deciding to kick the FG after all. We tacked 3 more points on the board that clearly could have been avoided by the Wolverines and the Hawks stands went up for grabs.  It was hilarious and Drass looked pretty foolish, IMO.  I'll bet he wishes he could take that one back to this day.   ;) :D ;D

Not a bad call by the Wesley coach.  Just unlucky that UWW made the FG.  Why give the UWW punter the benefit by accepting the penalty?  What point of the game did this happen?
FG scored at the 7:09 mark of the 1st quarter.  Score was 7-0, UWW, at the time.  Guess I would rather give the punter the benefit than the FG kicker but I'm guessing he didn't realize the consequences of that decision at the time.   :D

Ended up being 44-7 so probably not too impactful (did I just make up a word?).  Probably thought it was out of Schebler's range.
Ya, probably......but it was still pretty funny.  And coming that early in the game with the score still very close, I would argue that it was, "impactful," at the time,.........just not in the long run. 
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!"  Dennis Miller

"Three things you don't want to be in football, slow, small and friendly!"  John Madden

"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in
life." Paul Dietzel / LSU

justaraiderfan2

Not to change the subject on purpose, but i was reading some Colts stats the last 3 weeks and Pierre has been Peytons go to guy.Out of Mannings last 103 attempts,25 have gone to PG 85.He has 307 yds the last 3 games which leads the Colts. It looks like to me that he has earned the trust of the QB.Way to go PG All of Alliance and MUC are proud of what you have accomplished in just a short time in the big show.

Ric

Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 10, 2009, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 10, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 10, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
In honor of your game against Wesley, I thought I would share a fun story from the 06 semi final between the Wolverines and the Warhawks.  (Sorry, Welseydad.  I know you are a great guy and hope you take this in the humor that it is intended. )

Welsey had stopped the Hawks on 3rd down and their choice was to punt the ball or have Schebler attempt a 49 yard FG.  
The Hawks decided to punt and so they put the punt team on the field and then took a delay of game penalty to get 5 more yards of beathing room for the punter as it was a short field.  Coach Drass decided, (I guess, that he didn't want to make it any easier on the Hawks than necessary,) to decline the penalty.  So the Hawks coaching staff changed their minds, pulled the punt team off, sent Schebler and Co. out deciding to kick the FG after all. We tacked 3 more points on the board that clearly could have been avoided by the Wolverines and the Hawks stands went up for grabs.  It was hilarious and Drass looked pretty foolish, IMO.  I'll bet he wishes he could take that one back to this day.   ;) :D ;D

Not a bad call by the Wesley coach.  Just unlucky that UWW made the FG.  Why give the UWW punter the benefit by accepting the penalty?  What point of the game did this happen?
FG scored at the 7:09 mark of the 1st quarter.  Score was 7-0, UWW, at the time.  Guess I would rather give the punter the benefit than the FG kicker but I'm guessing he didn't realize the consequences of that decision at the time.   :D

Ended up being 44-7 so probably not too impactful (did I just make up a word?).  Probably thought it was out of Schebler's range.
Ya, probably......but it was still pretty funny.  And coming that early in the game with the score still very close, I would argue that it was, "impactful," at the time,.........just not in the long run. 

Not really sure what that has to do with today? I'm positive every coach questions decisions he's made and learns and becomes a better coach from what he experiences on the sidelines.  Do you think Bill Belichick might punt on fourth down against Indy now? How many Super Bowls has he won?