FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[JK]

I also heard that Travis Everhardt who is a former alum applied and never heard anything. That's a shame on the school if so. Even if you don't want to hire the guy, at least give him the common courtesy to say you're not interested.

Tdubs,

PM me or hit me on facebook.  I talked to Travis the other day.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Recruiting fair sparks interest in Wiregrass Ranch High School

Wiregrass Ranch coach Jeremy Shobe was one of dozens to attend the annual college football recruiting fair last week at East Bay.

The reward for donating some of his time could be thousands upon thousands of dollars in scholarship money for his football players. The annual recruiting fair links colleges with limited budgets to high school football players they otherwise may never find.

The result for Wiregrass Ranch has been phone calls and interest from a handful of schools previously nowhere in sight.

Bulls defensive end Kasey Hess has been invited to walk on at Mount Union (Ohio) College, and also has interest from Chowan.

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Recruiting fair sparks interest in Wiregrass Ranch High School

Wiregrass Ranch coach Jeremy Shobe was one of dozens to attend the annual college football recruiting fair last week at East Bay.

The reward for donating some of his time could be thousands upon thousands of dollars in scholarship money for his football players. The annual recruiting fair links colleges with limited budgets to high school football players they otherwise may never find.

The result for Wiregrass Ranch has been phone calls and interest from a handful of schools previously nowhere in sight.

Bulls defensive end Kasey Hess has been invited to walk on at Mount Union (Ohio) College, and also has interest from Chowan.

kirasdad:

This venue sounds like a very valuable and helpful entity for many schools, particularly the small colleges and fo the high school players who desire to continue their football careers at the collegiate level.  However, as we all know, aside from prospective student-athletes being provided financial need based assistance at the DIII level, obviously no football scholarships are allowed.  So in that respect, the statement that the above named player "has been invited to walk on at Mount Union..." is puzzliing to me.  While DIII schools absolutely recruit football players, in reality, every player at a DIII school is a "walk-on" so to speak.  Regardless, again IMO, the annual recruiting fair that you posted about is a very good and worthwhile event.  Kudos to those who volunteer their time and efforts on behalf of the schools and for the prospective student-athletes as well.  A great service.      

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

kirasdad:

This venue sounds like a very valuable and helpful entity for many schools, particularly the small colleges and fo the high school players who desire to continue their football careers at the collegiate level.  However, as we all know, aside from prospective student-athletes being provided financial need based assistance at the DIII level, obviously no football scholarships are allowed.  So in that respect, the statement that the above named player "has been invited to walk on at Mount Union..." is puzzliing to me.  While DIII schools absolutely recruit football players, in reality, every player at a DIII school is a "walk-on" so to speak.  Regardless, again IMO, the annual recruiting fair that you posted about is a very good and worthwhile event.  Kudos to those who volunteer their time and efforts on behalf of the schools and for the prospective student-athletes as well.  A great service.      

Yeah, but "Walk-On" in my understanding is used more for players who attempt to make a Team that offers scholarships, but that specific playER has no scholarship.  IMO, I don't like it when the media starts using it in situations that don't apply.  He could have stated it as "has been invited to join the team" or "has been invited to try-out for the team".

From Wikipedia:
The term walk-on is used in sports, particularly American  college athletics, to describe an athlete who becomes part of a team without being actively recruited beforehand or awarded an athletic scholarship. This results in the differentiation between "walk-on" players and "scholarship" players.

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kirasdad:

This venue sounds like a very valuable and helpful entity for many schools, particularly the small colleges and fo the high school players who desire to continue their football careers at the collegiate level.  However, as we all know, aside from prospective student-athletes being provided financial need based assistance at the DIII level, obviously no football scholarships are allowed.  So in that respect, the statement that the above named player "has been invited to walk on at Mount Union..." is puzzliing to me.  While DIII schools absolutely recruit football players, in reality, every player at a DIII school is a "walk-on" so to speak.  Regardless, again IMO, the annual recruiting fair that you posted about is a very good and worthwhile event.  Kudos to those who volunteer their time and efforts on behalf of the schools and for the prospective student-athletes as well.  A great service.      

Yeah, but "Walk-On" in my understanding is used more for players who attempt to make a Team that offers scholarships, but that specific play has no scholarship.  IMO, I don't like it when the media starts using it in situations that don't apply.  He could have stated it as "has been invited to join the team" or "has been invited to try-out for the team".

From Wikipedia:
The term walk-on is used in sports, particularly American  college athletics, to describe an athlete who becomes part of a team without being actively recruited beforehand or awarded an athletic scholarship. This results in the differentiation between "walk-on" players and "scholarship" players.

I agree totally.  I am a firm believer in the officially accepted defiitions of words/phrases.   I was just using the term in a simulated sense i.e.  I guess one could say in a sense that even at DIII, a distinction could be made between players who were actively recruited by the coaching staff and then received the appropriate financially need-based aid (or appropriately earned academic scholarships) and those who contacted the coaches late in the spring (i.e. after school was out for the year) or summer after being accepted for admission and essentially "just showed up" at the beginning of pre-season practice in August.  Then again, that is stretching it a bit!  Nonetheless, the journalist's article that you cite is just another example of those who don't really understand the differences between DIII and the other NCAA leveles of football that we all do who played in DIII and/or follow DIII athletics.

[TooForRaider]

It is enjoyable to read these articles that seem a bit misinformed. Same with the letters of intent (which I think were addressed a few pages back). MUC has a type of "media release" that a player signs which many think is a letter of intent.

[seventiesraider]

Mostly it comes out of staged photos for small town newspapers. I know the Record-Courier in Portage County is great for pictures of kids with a pencil and a blank piece of paper

[Raider 68]

kirasdad:

This venue sounds like a very valuable and helpful entity for many schools, particularly the small colleges and fo the high school players who desire to continue their football careers at the collegiate level.  However, as we all know, aside from prospective student-athletes being provided financial need based assistance at the DIII level, obviously no football scholarships are allowed.  So in that respect, the statement that the above named player "has been invited to walk on at Mount Union..." is puzzliing to me.  While DIII schools absolutely recruit football players, in reality, every player at a DIII school is a "walk-on" so to speak.  Regardless, again IMO, the annual recruiting fair that you posted about is a very good and worthwhile event.  Kudos to those who volunteer their time and efforts on behalf of the schools and for the prospective student-athletes as well.  A great service.       

Yeah, but "Walk-On" in my understanding is used more for players who attempt to make a Team that offers scholarships, but that specific play has no scholarship.  IMO, I don't like it when the media starts using it in situations that don't apply.  He could have stated it as "has been invited to join the team" or "has been invited to try-out for the team".

From Wikipedia:
The term walk-on is used in sports, particularly American  college athletics, to describe an athlete who becomes part of a team without being actively recruited beforehand or awarded an athletic scholarship. This results in the differentiation between "walk-on" players and "scholarship" players.

I agree totally.  I am a firm believer in the officially accepted defiitions of words/phrases.   I was just using the term in a simulated sense i.e.  I guess one could say in a sense that even at DIII, a distinction could be made between players who were actively recruited by the coaching staff and then received the appropriate financially need-based aid (or appropriately earned academic scholarships) and those who contacted the coaches late in the spring (i.e. after school was out for the year) or summer after being accepted for admission and essentially "just showed up" at the beginning of pre-season practice in August.  Then again, that is stretching it a bit!   Nonetheless, the journalist's article that you cite is just another example of those who don't really understand the differences between DIII and the other NCAA leveles of football that we all do who played in DIII and/or follow DIII athletics.

I always thought a walk-on was a player who did not have a scholarship of any kind, from any school, but in D3 the term is seldom used.

[Raider 68]

Fall recruiting news is very quiet at this point, any top recruits committing to OAC schools of late other than the few mentioned on earlier posts?

[Small but Slow]

My understanding of the Tampa Bay area recruiting event last weekend is it was by invite only.  Coaches invited area seniors to meet with them specifically, but once at the fair, the students could speak with any recruiter interested.  It was an opportunity for face to face meetings and to collect film.  The recruiters collected film for evaluation, and provided guidance for the application process.  The seniors still must be accepted to their prospective schools and apply for financial aid.  I believe the newspaper article inaccurately portrayed offers to walk on.  Most Florida journalists only cover DI and aren't aware how D3 functions.  I don't think most area high school coaches even understand the process, as well.  I'm assisting a former player in the application process.  I have little doubt he'll be accepted as a student, therefore upon his admittance will have the opportunity to walk on to the team if he wishes.

[Raider 68]

My understanding of the Tampa Bay area recruiting event last weekend is it was by invite only.  Coaches invited area seniors to meet with them specifically, but once at the fair, the students could speak with any recruiter interested.  It was an opportunity for face to face meetings and to collect film.  The recruiters collected film for evaluation, and provided guidance for the application process.  The seniors still must be accepted to their prospective schools and apply for financial aid.  I believe the newspaper article inaccurately portrayed offers to walk on.  Most Florida journalists only cover DI and aren't aware how D3 functions.  I don't think most area high school coaches even understand the process, as well.  I'm assisting a former player in the application process.  I have little doubt he'll be accepted as a student, therefore upon his admittance will have the opportunity to walk on to the team if he wishes.

Any idea how many D3 coaches may have been there?

[runyr]

kirasdad:

This venue sounds like a very valuable and helpful entity for many schools, particularly the small colleges and fo the high school players who desire to continue their football careers at the collegiate level.  However, as we all know, aside from prospective student-athletes being provided financial need based assistance at the DIII level, obviously no football scholarships are allowed.  So in that respect, the statement that the above named player "has been invited to walk on at Mount Union..." is puzzliing to me.  While DIII schools absolutely recruit football players, in reality, every player at a DIII school is a "walk-on" so to speak.  Regardless, again IMO, the annual recruiting fair that you posted about is a very good and worthwhile event.  Kudos to those who volunteer their time and efforts on behalf of the schools and for the prospective student-athletes as well.  A great service.       

Yeah, but "Walk-On" in my understanding is used more for players who attempt to make a Team that offers scholarships, but that specific play has no scholarship.  IMO, I don't like it when the media starts using it in situations that don't apply.  He could have stated it as "has been invited to join the team" or "has been invited to try-out for the team".

From Wikipedia:
The term walk-on is used in sports, particularly American  college athletics, to describe an athlete who becomes part of a team without being actively recruited beforehand or awarded an athletic scholarship. This results in the differentiation between "walk-on" players and "scholarship" players.

I agree totally.  I am a firm believer in the officially accepted defiitions of words/phrases.   I was just using the term in a simulated sense i.e.  I guess one could say in a sense that even at DIII, a distinction could be made between players who were actively recruited by the coaching staff and then received the appropriate financially need-based aid (or appropriately earned academic scholarships) and those who contacted the coaches late in the spring (i.e. after school was out for the year) or summer after being accepted for admission and essentially "just showed up" at the beginning of pre-season practice in August.  Then again, that is stretching it a bit!   Nonetheless, the journalist's article that you cite is just another example of those who don't really understand the differences between DIII and the other NCAA leveles of football that we all do who played in DIII and/or follow DIII athletics.

I always thought a walk-on was a player who did not have a scholarship of any kind, from any school, but in D3 the term is seldom used.

Maybe the reporter as a big fan of U2 was referring to the player coming to Mount Union to sing U2's famous song "Walk On":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_On_(song) 

Seriously, most of the media who make those mistakes aren't familiar with D3 and don't attempt to understand the differences.  The term shouldn't be used when discussing D3 athletes.
Probably the best thing we can do when we read something like that is send a comment to the reporter.

[reality check]

I just heard it through the grapevine that 75 +/- incoming freshmen will be invited to walk on to ONU's football team this fall (provided their deposits clear).

[Raider 68]

I just heard it through the grapevine that 75 +/- incoming freshmen will be invited to walk on to ONU's football team this fall (provided their deposits clear).

RC,

Do you know how that compares to prior years?

[formerd3db]

I just heard it through the grapevine that 75 +/- incoming freshmen will be invited to walk on to ONU's football team this fall (provided their deposits clear).

While this topic has been discussed on here and other boards in the past, it is always interesting, especially during this "off-season" time.  Many years ago, bringing in those kind of #'s was unheard of.  However, now it is very common, especially at the DIII level.  I remember when Pitt brought in 75 freshman during Tony Dorsett's first year during Johnny Major's time there.  That was unprecedented, but worked for them.  Of course, at DI and DII there are limitations on that now, including the number of walk-ons, but at DIII, not uncommon for schools to have upwards of 140-160 players report in August (although the Wisconsin league has limits of 100 player rosters as has been discussed).

While there will be some attrition obviously with those #'s coming in to ONU, with the JV programs now available, it helps.  Nonetheless, it is always scary to see that many guys come in when you are a member of the team, especially if you are one of the incoming guys!  Then again, some people thrive on that and "rise to the occasion".  Other times, one just has to put their time in and wait their turn - it all depends on the "#'s game" i.e. how many are ahead of you at your postition and also being in the right place at the right time in that regard.

Anyway, that is good for ONU.