FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[skunks_sidekick]

Hmmm...well he could be on one of his "off" cycles regarding his meds.   

[PurpleSuit]

Assman lead the team in passing, rushing and receiving at Mount. I rest my point

led

You said they were "totally without talent".  So Assman has no talent?

a former QB leading the team in three stats is not a good thing.  Assman was no cecil shorts in the pocket.  Capital is without talent, especially when compared to the teams that used to push Mount to the brink of defeat.  Its a sad state down in Bexley

[seventiesraider]

OK, Cap has Assman, JCU has Frank Ross, Muskingum, Wilmington, Marrietta, you tell me. I was complimentary of Heidelberg, Ohio Northern (might have questioned the All-OAC QB), and all I know about BW is what I saw in the first half of the Wooster game which was bad. I think the talent level is down across the board and I'm starting to think it's the economy. The number of parents who can pay OAC level tuition just so Junior can continue his football career is dwindling. I know I have parents who think I'm nuts when I try to get them to consider a DIII school. (There are also a fair number who quit after they find out they can't be an instant star in DIII)

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

[bushman]

Seventies must have got the 2nd semester bill from the berg.   He's talking economics plus football plus talent and drawing conclusions from all three.   

[raiderpa]

Put the Heidelberg QB on the UMU roster and watch his stats rise.  Seaman has been solid, no complaint, but I think Miller is the best in OAC at this time.

[HScoach]

^ I think both you and Sidekick are right.    He's off his meds and poor.

[Goal Line Stand]

The number of parents who can pay OAC level tuition just so Junior can continue his football career is dwindling. I know I have parents who think I'm nuts when I try to get them to consider a DIII school. (There are also a fair number who quit after they find out they can't be an instant star in DIII)

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

Don't you tell them about all the "grant" money?   

[Knightstalker]

^ I think both you and Sidekick are right.    He's off his meds and poor.

Probably why off the meds.   

[fat_old_LB]

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

I would agree with that completely.  Does anyone know what the tuition is for Lake Erie College and Notre Dame College?  I have heard some parents say they are getting great offers to play at these schools which is probably taking kids from JCU and BWC away.  I know they are going to be D2 schools (which I dont agree with but for another conversation) but are they already offering scholarships?

[reality check]

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

I would agree with that completely.  Does anyone know what the tuition is for Lake Erie College and Notre Dame College?  I have heard some parents say they are getting great offers to play at these schools which is probably taking kids from JCU and BWC away.  I know they are going to be D2 schools (which I dont agree with but for another conversation) but are they already offering scholarships?

Both schools are between 11,500 and 12,500 per semester according to their websites.

[OldOtter]

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

I would agree with that completely.  Does anyone know what the tuition is for Lake Erie College and Notre Dame College?  I have heard some parents say they are getting great offers to play at these schools which is probably taking kids from JCU and BWC away.  I know they are going to be D2 schools (which I dont agree with but for another conversation) but are they already offering scholarships?

I work pretty closely in the admission/financial aid side of recruiting at a certain OAC school (Go Cards). The issue of a DII school throwing more money at a family actually came up today in a phone call I had with a parent of a student athlete. The student has already been offered a pretty large sum in grant money to attend a DII school in Central Ohio and play volleyball. But, the mother even said to me, she would rather pay more to have her daughter attend a quality institution rather than just have her go somewhere else for more money. It was so nice to actually hear it said from a parent instead of trying to explain this fact over and over again. College is expensive. Hell, we're at 37k a year currently. But, it's also an investment. There are so many benefits to attending a small, private, liberal arts college like the 10 that make up the OAC. Money is a huge factor with a majority of the families we work with, especially student athletes, but it's refreshing to come across families that see higher education as investment in the students future rather than just a money sign.

just had to throw in my two cents...

[Ryder16]

If you think the OAC is having troubles, look at the NCAC tuition levels, and when you start to feel bad for them, look at the UAA tuition levels, this is not an OAC problem, its a d3 problem vs the economy. Its one thing to talk them out of a d1 or d2 for a better education ( at the d3 level) but when Ott is " 37k/ year" imagine trying to talk a student into kenyons "48k/year"

[Pat Coleman]

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

I would agree with that completely.  Does anyone know what the tuition is for Lake Erie College and Notre Dame College?  I have heard some parents say they are getting great offers to play at these schools which is probably taking kids from JCU and BWC away.  I know they are going to be D2 schools (which I dont agree with but for another conversation) but are they already offering scholarships?

Lake Erie has been out of D3 for a few years now and I believe they could offer some money right away. Notre Dame was coming from the NAIA, I believe, so they would have already had money to give as soon as they started football.

[seventiesraider]

If you think the OAC is having troubles, look at the NCAC tuition levels, and when you start to feel bad for them, look at the UAA tuition levels,

Well, hopefully Junior doesn't have to play JV for Hiram or Kenyon or Wesleyan for three years before he can crack into the Varsity lineup. If so, I'd recommend a chat with his guidance counselor.

And yes, I'm very poor after the new Harley and the required new Washer and Dryer for the misses. Oh and the Bob Dylan tickets

 

[formerd3db]

I think the economic realities of today, are starting to wreak havoc with the idea you should work two-three years, spending that kind of money for a shot at playing one or two years for Mount.

I would agree with that completely.  Does anyone know what the tuition is for Lake Erie College and Notre Dame College?  I have heard some parents say they are getting great offers to play at these schools which is probably taking kids from JCU and BWC away.  I know they are going to be D2 schools (which I dont agree with but for another conversation) but are they already offering scholarships?

Lake Erie has been out of D3 for a few years now and I believe they could offer some money right away. Notre Dame was coming from the NAIA, I believe, so they would have already had money to give as soon as they started football.

Pat:

According to their athletic website, Lake Erie was never really DIII.  The first year of their program in 2007 was officially designated as a club team in which they played a combination of JV teams, club teams and some other colleges.  Then, in their first full year as an official team the following year in 2008, they started right out in DII according to the website.  They were a surprising 7-4 last year in the GLIAC, and although this year while only 2-7 so far, they have lost several games by very narrow marigins.  Looks like they have a large roster, although probably typical for the DII GLIAC member universities/colleges.  Interesting.  I'm sure some of their recruting takes away from B-W and other schools in the area.  Their coaching staff has several coaches from Mercyhurst and B-W backgrounds, including their head coach McNellie.