FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[seventiesraider]

Be sure and tell 'em I spent 36 years pursuing a Bachelors Degree, that'll probably clinch it. I always wanted one of them Pie Betty Krapper keys

[usee]

hscoach

I think I worked something out.  It's hard to tell the terms of the deal because the NCAC president kept using all this high-society language that I could barely comprehend with my meager OAC education but the terms of the deal as I can best understand them are as follows. 

There are two active offers to vote on.

Option 1:

The NCAC gets seventiesraider, John Carroll University and half a case of Cholula Hot Sauce (I just threw that in because I have a hook-up).

The OAC gets Hiram back, a dozen unsold NCAC 25th Anniversary sweatshirts, and a lifetime exemption on Wooster/Mount Union chatter.


Option 2 has a little more going on:

The NCAC gets seventiesraider, Marietta (because they're one of the few "colleges" left in our impersonal and huge-enrollment conference), Larry Kinnard's unused OSU gear and mandatory Wally Wabash striped pants for all Otterbein fans all the time and we have to pretend to like it.

The OAC gets Allegheny (just because the NCAC thinks if would be funny for the Ohio Athletic Conference to have a team from PA as a member), a ten-year Kenyon vs. Mount Union swimming invitational where Mount swimmers must bow down to Kenyon in some sort of public display and we must promote stoonk as our lifetime conference ambassador for Division III.

This is hilarious. Excellent work RC. +1

[Pat Coleman]

No, but a backup QB did engineer 96 pts the last two weeks. Which is pretty good.

My point was that I'd understand bringing up the quarterback if they were low scoring games.  But, the offense was not UWW's problem.

If Franklin was down 7-0 at the half before UWW went on to win 38-7, or if the Trine score was 3-3 after 49 minutes before the backup quarterback finally got the offense together to score the final two touchdowns, the "backup quarterback" argument would carry more weight.

If the starting quarterback was there and UWW wasn't going three-and-out as often, the defense wouldn't be on the field as much, either. It's not the same, I agree, but they are not totally independent either.

[HScoach]

hscoach

I think I worked something out.  It's hard to tell the terms of the deal because the NCAC president kept using all this high-society language that I could barely comprehend with my meager OAC education but the terms of the deal as I can best understand them are as follows.  

There are two active offers to vote on.

Option 1:

The NCAC gets seventiesraider, John Carroll University and half a case of Cholula Hot Sauce (I just threw that in because I have a hook-up).

The OAC gets Hiram back, a dozen unsold NCAC 25th Anniversary sweatshirts, and a lifetime exemption on Wooster/Mount Union chatter.


Option 2 has a little more going on:

The NCAC gets seventiesraider, Marietta (because they're one of the few "colleges" left in our impersonal and huge-enrollment conference), Larry Kinnard's unused OSU gear and mandatory Wally Wabash striped pants for all Otterbein fans all the time and we have to pretend to like it.

The OAC gets Allegheny (just because the NCAC thinks if would be funny for the Ohio Athletic Conference to have a team from PA as a member), a ten-year Kenyon vs. Mount Union swimming invitational where Mount swimmers must bow down to Kenyon in some sort of public display and we must promote stoonk as our lifetime conference ambassador for Division III.

Well done! 

I vote for Option #2 because I didn't even know Mount had a swim team, so why do I care if they have to bow at the Kenyon Throne?  Though the Wabash candy striper pants will be hard to take.  I also like getting Allegheny in place of Etta.  They've been competitive in the last 20 years and their field doesn't have a huge "Food 4 Less" over looking it.

[SaintsFAN]

hscoach

I think I worked something out.  It's hard to tell the terms of the deal because the NCAC president kept using all this high-society language that I could barely comprehend with my meager OAC education but the terms of the deal as I can best understand them are as follows.  

There are two active offers to vote on.

Option 1:

The NCAC gets seventiesraider, John Carroll University and half a case of Cholula Hot Sauce (I just threw that in because I have a hook-up).

The OAC gets Hiram back, a dozen unsold NCAC 25th Anniversary sweatshirts, and a lifetime exemption on Wooster/Mount Union chatter.


Option 2 has a little more going on:

The NCAC gets seventiesraider, Marietta (because they're one of the few "colleges" left in our impersonal and huge-enrollment conference), Larry Kinnard's unused OSU gear and mandatory Wally Wabash striped pants for all Otterbein fans all the time and we have to pretend to like it.

The OAC gets Allegheny (just because the NCAC thinks if would be funny for the Ohio Athletic Conference to have a team from PA as a member), a ten-year Kenyon vs. Mount Union swimming invitational where Mount swimmers must bow down to Kenyon in some sort of public display and we must promote stoonk as our lifetime conference ambassador for Division III.

Well done! 

I vote for Option #2 because I didn't even know Mount had a swim team, so why do I care if they have to bow at the Kenyon Throne?  Though the Wabash candy striper pants will be hard to take.  I also like getting Allegheny in place of Etta.  They've been competitive in the last 20 years and their field doesn't have a huge "Food 4 Less" over looking it.

you forgot to mention how tired you are of the drive down 77, hscoach..

[theaprof]

Sidekick, Theaprof, HurfMUC, Mtfan, etc:  With a potential trip to Minnesota for the semi-finals screwing up our annual week 14 wing & beer fest, should we consider moving it up a week and do it this Friday night?  Or do we want to roll the dice that Bethel will save us?

I vote for meeting this week and then, if Bethel does its duty, again next week.  Let me know.

[skunks_sidekick]

I'm really disappointed and embarrassed for you sidekick for calling out ONU for their 2008 loss to Otterbein after one of the captains' fathers died en route to the game.  The fact that they came out and competed at all given the circumstances showed true grit and perseverance.  

A couple of you Mount guys are really going out of your ways to say some especially questionable things.  It's hard to defend the OAC/Mounties to outsiders lately.

I'd like to think the OAC is better than all this pot-stirring and ember-fanning.  


*I stand corrected about the 2008 loss.  It sure seems like longer than 2009 when the tragedy struck.  My apologies for confusing the dates.  So again, I apologize for my statement sidekick.

Wow.....easy there big fella....no pot stirring here.  It's all good.....

[skunks_sidekick]

Sidekick, Theaprof, HurfMUC, Mtfan, etc:  With a potential trip to Minnesota for the semi-finals screwing up our annual week 14 wing & beer fest, should we consider moving it up a week and do it this Friday night?  Or do we want to roll the dice that Bethel will save us?

I vote for meeting this week and then, if Bethel does its duty, again next week.  Let me know.

I will leave this vote up to all others.  I am in Columbus Thur/Fri for business, and don't expect to get back until Friday evening, so I am not sure I can make it.  IF I were able to make it, I would second the idea of just doing both weeks.  How is the "new improved" WW now that it's down the street?

[Raider 68]

HScoach,

Are the Raiders healthy going into these final games? Not heard anything concerning injuries.

[usee]

Franklin would be lucky to beat Baldwin Wallace. It's been decades since anybody from that conference was a threat. And yes I remember that Mt St Joes was a momentary blip on the radar.

USee-You need to know the story about the Mount professor who once told me, "Ross, your the kind of guy who see's a glowing ember and feels he has to blow on it till there's a fire"

Hey Ember blower-- I was just reminded that Franklin beat BW in 2008 and 2009 but I'm sure BW had a hangnail those seasons and Ott was only #2 because all the other OAC teams forgot to showup/file their paperwork and ONU this year played their playoff games with all their siblings instead of the real starters. I am sure you can manufacture more excuses as to why Franklin isn't any good but it seems a lot easier to get over this denial phase and admit Franklin isn't as bad as you think. 


Good luck in the NCAC board. Although I really like RC's options I think a simple trade for cash and a poster to be named later is the cleanest, simplest transaction.

[rscl70]

Franklin would be lucky to beat Baldwin Wallace. It's been decades since anybody from that conference was a threat. And yes I remember that Mt St Joes was a momentary blip on the radar.

USee-You need to know the story about the Mount professor who once told me, "Ross, your the kind of guy who see's a glowing ember and feels he has to blow on it till there's a fire"

Hey Ember blower-- I was just reminded that Franklin beat BW in 2008 and 2009 but I'm sure BW had a hangnail those seasons and Ott was only #2 because all the other OAC teams forgot to showup/file their paperwork and ONU this year played their playoff games with all their siblings instead of the real starters. I am sure you can manufacture more excuses as to why Franklin isn't any good but it seems a lot easier to get over this denial phase and admit Franklin isn't as bad as you think. 

Come 2012 (if the world doen't end) I guess we'll find out for ourselves.

[aueagle]

The Etta "Food For Less" does come with the hidden bonus.....
If street parking is full, you can use the grocery store parking lot....
Start charging for street & "Food For Less" at $5 a car...
Boom, cash reserves for the Pio's....
"that's the real hidden value G.G., if you can negotiate that out".... Bud Fox
                               

[footballfan413]

No, but a backup QB did engineer 96 pts the last two weeks. Which is pretty good.

My point was that I'd understand bringing up the quarterback if they were low scoring games.  But, the offense was not UWW's problem.

If Franklin was down 7-0 at the half before UWW went on to win 38-7, or if the Trine score was 3-3 after 49 minutes before the backup quarterback finally got the offense together to score the final two touchdowns, the "backup quarterback" argument would carry more weight.

If the starting quarterback was there and UWW wasn't going three-and-out as often, the defense wouldn't be on the field as much, either. It's not the same, I agree, but they are not totally independent either.

Not to mention the lousy field position that a lot of three and outs usually gives the defense.  A football team is made up of three moving parts.  When one is not operating at optimum efficiency, it makes it tougher on the other two.  

[usee]

Come 2012 (if the world doen't end) I guess we'll find out for ourselves.

And when Mt Union wins 41-13, 27-0, or 58-7, what exactly will we know about Franklin vs any other OAC team? 

[Olinemom]

Sidekick, Theaprof, HurfMUC, Mtfan, etc:  With a potential trip to Minnesota for the semi-finals screwing up our annual week 14 wing & beer fest, should we consider moving it up a week and do it this Friday night?  Or do we want to roll the dice that Bethel will save us?

I vote for meeting this week and then, if Bethel does its duty, again next week.  Let me know.

You better not wear yourself and the hat out before the STAGG Bowl with all this partying because I expect you guys to be there right and ready to go!!!