FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[rscl70]

" Mount Union is still the program you would make a blue print of and hand out to every other DIII team and tell them to follow it if they want to have success and sustain it"


Most D3 schools do not have D1 transfers attending on a "Leadership" scholarship...it is a successful program but to compare it to the majority of D3 colleges is like comparing Ohio State's and Akron's programs. Just the way I see it.

.....name a few of the D1 transfers.  Just curious, because I haven't seen them on the roster over the past few years.

Matt Piloto...   

According to the article posted last week about Piloto, he walked-on at the Florida school and never played.  He never "signed" D-I, so would not be a transfer.  I just get tired of the "transfer" accusations that are thrown at UMU year-after-year.......

Having been around the program, I didn't see a lot/if any transfers from "higher", scholarship divisions.  Kids like Garcon (transfer from another D-III), Shorts, Miller, et.al., were simply the results of Mount finding them and developing them.

Odd how these misinformed, ignorant attacks are still being aimed at Mount Union.  Case04, go spew your venom and frustration on the WIAC board where the "Kings of DIII" live (if you don't believe it just ask them.)  I'm sure you can come up with all kinds of imaginary garbage about the Whitewater program.

[rscl70]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give me a stud D-I transfer RB!  I will be very happy to be called "Little OSU", or "Buckeye Light".  HELL YAH!   

+K

[02 Warhawk]

" Mount Union is still the program you would make a blue print of and hand out to every other DIII team and tell them to follow it if they want to have success and sustain it"


Most D3 schools do not have D1 transfers attending on a "Leadership" scholarship...it is a successful program but to compare it to the majority of D3 colleges is like comparing Ohio State's and Akron's programs. Just the way I see it.

.....name a few of the D1 transfers.  Just curious, because I haven't seen them on the roster over the past few years.

Matt Piloto...  

According to the article posted last week about Piloto, he walked-on at the Florida school and never played.  He never "signed" D-I, so would not be a transfer.  I just get tired of the "transfer" accusations that are thrown at UMU year-after-year.......

Having been around the program, I didn't see a lot/if any transfers from "higher", scholarship divisions.  Kids like Garcon (transfer from another D-III), Shorts, Miller, et.al., were simply the results of Mount finding them and developing them.

Odd how these misinformed, ignorant attacks are still being aimed at Mount Union.  Case04, go spew your venom and frustration on the WIAC board where the "Kings of DIII" live (if you don't believe it just ask them.)  I'm sure you can come up with all kinds of imaginary garbage about the Whitewater program.

easy there buddy  

not all of us think that...we get pleanty of garbage thrown in our direction as it is. I guess we are too big of a school for DIII now, our academic standards aren't high enough, our tuition is too low...and so on.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

" Mount Union is still the program you would make a blue print of and hand out to every other DIII team and tell them to follow it if they want to have success and sustain it"


Most D3 schools do not have D1 transfers attending on a "Leadership" scholarship...it is a successful program but to compare it to the majority of D3 colleges is like comparing Ohio State's and Akron's programs. Just the way I see it.

.....name a few of the D1 transfers.  Just curious, because I haven't seen them on the roster over the past few years.

Matt Piloto...   

According to the article posted last week about Piloto, he walked-on at the Florida school and never played.  He never "signed" D-I, so would not be a transfer.  I just get tired of the "transfer" accusations that are thrown at UMU year-after-year.......

Having been around the program, I didn't see a lot/if any transfers from "higher", scholarship divisions.  Kids like Garcon (transfer from another D-III), Shorts, Miller, et.al., were simply the results of Mount finding them and developing them.

Agree with getting tired of those accusations, but it appears that recently, teams are getting more transfers that are making contributions.

[rscl70]

Nothing against you 02 Warhawk.  The Warhawks have the last two rings and with them go the spoils.  Enjoy the high!

[Warhawk 96]

" Mount Union is still the program you would make a blue print of and hand out to every other DIII team and tell them to follow it if they want to have success and sustain it"


Most D3 schools do not have D1 transfers attending on a "Leadership" scholarship...it is a successful program but to compare it to the majority of D3 colleges is like comparing Ohio State's and Akron's programs. Just the way I see it.

.....name a few of the D1 transfers.  Just curious, because I haven't seen them on the roster over the past few years.

Matt Piloto...   

According to the article posted last week about Piloto, he walked-on at the Florida school and never played.  He never "signed" D-I, so would not be a transfer.  I just get tired of the "transfer" accusations that are thrown at UMU year-after-year.......

Having been around the program, I didn't see a lot/if any transfers from "higher", scholarship divisions.  Kids like Garcon (transfer from another D-III), Shorts, Miller, et.al., were simply the results of Mount finding them and developing them.

Odd how these misinformed, ignorant attacks are still being aimed at Mount Union.  Case04, go spew your venom and frustration on the WIAC board where the "Kings of DIII" live (if you don't believe it just ask them.)  I'm sure you can come up with all kinds of imaginary garbage about the Whitewater program.

Yup, we are  At least for a year, then we're back to being peasants trying to win it again. On a serious note though, when you win like Mount Union has or Whitewater has, there are always going to be people trying to attribute your success to something other than the hard work you put in so that they can make up an excuse as to why they can't do what you did. No one from our side is taking anything away from Mount's success. You guys are great for D3 and definitely earned your position. We haven't experienced Mount Union's level of success yet but we're on our way though

[seventiesraider]

Just once, why doesn't Mount actually live up to all the CRAP thrown in our general direction. I think we should all donate to fund a special award for unfortunately large and fast individuals who are afraid of big cities and large campuses.

D1 transfers? I thought our unfair advantage was all those Methodist minister's kids (wink, wink)


(BTW-Comparing us to Akron?? Please take all the sharp objects away from me)

[thewaterboy]

Interesting conversation here. I think that the "main" reason as to why UWW and Mount have been the top dogs after the past 6 years is coaching. No doubt. And the winning has brought better players in. Because people want to play for a winner. Its that simple.

Heres the part where I think schools like Mount and UWW benefit moreso than other schools IMHO. It comes to money. How much the school puts towards athletics. If you have a decent amount of money that can benefit you in several ways such as recruiting. How do you think Mount recruits from Florida (might be contradicting myself but their reputation has a hair to do with it, but not all)? Both schools have a decent amount of money going towards their football programs. And UWW is a state school, so they arent going to be losing very many solid football prospects from Wisconsin.

So, IMO, the main reason as to why UWW and Mount are so good, is because of the success that theyve had over the years and their coaches that have kept that success going. BUT to a minor degree, how much money the schools put towards athletics is indeed a factor as well.

Have a safe and happy holiday season.

[wildcat11]

Linfield's hometown newspaper ran an article on my Linfield fan site (catdomealumni.com) and I was sure to pay homage to Ric's site (mtunionfootball.com) as the inspiration for starting up my little venture.  Just wanted to tip my cap to Ric and tell him that I miss dropping by his site with updates from this past season.

http://web.newsregister.com/news/results.cfm?story_no=266993

Carlson explained his love of Division III, noting it has a tight-knit community of followers that's developed over the past decade in large part because of D3Football.com.

By following that site, Carlson said, he became exposed to other programs and discovered a fan from Mount Union running his own fan site (mtunionfootball.com).

..........................

Carlson said the spring of 2006 was his come-to-the-mountain moment with the Mount Union site.

"I thought to myself 'Why can't Linfield have their own fan site where those that love the program have another outlet to follow the 'Cats, or if they have an itch they can click on a site where they can watch some old highlights?'

"That's when I decided to start Catdomealumni.com."


Thank you Ric for leading the way!!!!!  -11

[Frank Rossi]

I just wanted to thank Lenny and his Sports Information staff for the amazing growth of professional coverage of Mount Union Athletics.

Now Len, try to get a couple of days with the family before y'all dive into swimming, wrestling, indoor track and mens/womens basketball.

Actually, I blame Lenny for the loss on Saturday.  And last year too.

BLR (before Lenny Reich), Mount was 10-2 in Stagg Bowls.

ALR (after Lenny Reich), Mount is 0-2.

Coincidence?  I think not!

As the former president of the Kurt Rocco Fan Club, I'm stepping forward to initiate the "Lenny Must Go" movement.  Please send donations ASAP to help in this worthwhile cause.

Didn't UMU win with Lenny as SID in 2008?

[seventiesraider]

And the thought that Micheal D was in anyway responsible for 9-10 national championships brings a little vomit up in my throat.

[AUPepBand]

Interesting conversation here. I think that the "main" reason as to why UWW and Mount have been the top dogs after the past 6 years is coaching. No doubt. And the winning has brought better players in. Because people want to play for a winner. Its that simple.

Heres the part where I think schools like Mount and UWW benefit moreso than other schools IMHO. It comes to money. How much the school puts towards athletics. If you have a decent amount of money that can benefit you in several ways such as recruiting. How do you think Mount recruits from Florida (might be contradicting myself but their reputation has a hair to do with it, but not all)? Both schools have a decent amount of money going towards their football programs. And UWW is a state school, so they arent going to be losing very many solid football prospects from Wisconsin.

Pep would like to add his two cents (about all that's left after Christmas shopping the other day). Alfred has shown some steady growth as a football program over the past several years (post-season play each of the past 7 years, 58-20). Coach Murray is a proven winner. While AU's accomplishments pale in comparison to what UMU and WW have done, nevertheless Alfred has become a consistent winner.

After the 2009 season, when the Saxons FINALLY earned a second trip into the playoffs (Pep was a recent college grad during the Saxons' first trip in 1981), Coach Murray had a record number of high school football players apply to Alfred to play football. Pep imagines the numbers may be comparable or perhaps even more this year, with the Saxons getting a couple wins in the playoffs. (Yet the recruiting remains extremely competitive in the E8...Fisher has the Bills, Ithaca has its national titles, Utica has Blaise Faggiano...)

Coach Murray runs a classy program, much like Coaches Kehres and Leipold. He attracts solid student-athletes....he will tell you the program is successful because he gets great kids. His first major act as head coach at Alfred back in 1998 was to put an end to any activities among players that resembled *hazing. As for Alfred University putting money into the football program, Pep is not aware of the financial arrangements but knows that one of the coaching positions is paid for by an alum. Further, an average freshman class at Alfred numbers around 500. For fall 2010, 133 of those freshmen were tuition-paying football players. Pep concludes that AU benefits from its football program.

***1998 Alfred University (New York) Football hazing, alcohol-related; Alfred University President Edward G. Coll cancelled one football game, expelled a veteran player, and suspended six others after an alcohol-related hazing on campus. The incident occurred 20 years after an Alfred University student died at Klan Alpine, a fraternity preferred by campus athletes. In response to the athletic hazing, Alfred University conducted a survey ("Initiation Rites and Athletics: A National Survey of NCAA Sports Teams") that was published August 30, 1999. The survey was funded by the Riedman Insurance Co.

[AUPepBand]

Just once, why doesn't Mount actually live up to all the CRAP thrown in our general direction. I think we should all donate to fund a special award for unfortunately large and fast individuals who are afraid of big cities and large campuses.

D1 transfers? I thought our unfair advantage was all those Methodist minister's kids (wink, wink)


(BTW-Comparing us to Akron?? Please take all the sharp objects away from me)

Alliance was frightening to Pep.....! Was relieved to get back to Mayberry!

[AUKaz00]

Alliance was frightening to Pep.....! Was relieved to get back to Mayberry!

But the Wing Warehouse was very hospitable...

[Frank Rossi]

...Further, an average freshman class at Alfred numbers around 500. For fall 2010, 133 of those freshmen were tuition-paying football players. Pep concludes that AU benefits from its football program...

Pep, you sure you don't mean that there were 133 students in all classes?  The way you stated it would mean there were about 400-500 football players at Alfred (or 25% of the enrollment).  It's still a healthy number at 133 out of 2000 students.