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purple

 I heard one of the boys SI slandered is a Youngstown boy,that his dad is upset and is going to sue.  If,and I repeat if, this rumor is true,the guys at SI better pray the case isn't filed in Youngstown and hang onto their hats if it is. Call of of their boys a crook? In Mahoning County? In Youngstown? Get ready for the reality series, " Going to trial in Mahoning County Common Please Court Against Youngstown Lawyers in Front of a Mahoning County Jury." Maybe those guys should have read up some on Mahoning County and Youngstown first.  Do you think the people there agree with SI about Coach Tressel? Think they might get upset about SI lying about their own?

theaprof

Quote from: purple on June 02, 2011, 09:12:29 PM
I heard one of the boys SI slandered is a Youngstown boy,that his dad is upset and is going to sue.  If,and I repeat if, this rumor is true,the guys at SI better pray the case isn't filed in Youngstown and hang onto their hats if it is. Call of of their boys a crook? In Mahoning County? In Youngstown? Get ready for the reality series, " Going to trial in Mahoning County Common Please Court Against Youngstown Lawyers in Front of a Mahoning County Jury." Maybe those guys should have read up some on Mahoning County and Youngstown first.  Do you think the people there agree with SI about Coach Tressel? Think they might get upset about SI lying about their own?

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sac

The LAST thing OSU would want is for a lawsuit to come from this and for people to be subject to discovery.


joelmama

Quote from: purple on June 02, 2011, 09:12:29 PM
I heard one of the boys SI slandered is a Youngstown boy,that his dad is upset and is going to sue.  If,and I repeat if, this rumor is true,the guys at SI better pray the case isn't filed in Youngstown and hang onto their hats if it is. Call of of their boys a crook? In Mahoning County? In Youngstown? Get ready for the reality series, " Going to trial in Mahoning County Common Please Court Against Youngstown Lawyers in Front of a Mahoning County Jury." Maybe those guys should have read up some on Mahoning County and Youngstown first.  Do you think the people there agree with SI about Coach Tressel? Think they might get upset about SI lying about their own?
You are correct about it being a kid from Younstown.  I think if they can go after some deep pockets they should.  There is no excuse for such shoddy journalism.  And it will helkp OSU if they expose these writers for piling on.  15 yard or 15 million dollar penalty.

PurpleSuit

any chance of actual DIII talk happening this week? 

Blutarsky

Quote from: PurpleSuit on June 03, 2011, 12:56:26 AM
any chance of actual DIII talk happening this week? 

nope......sorry.  But, Tressel does have DIII connections.
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hazzben

Quote from: joelmama on June 02, 2011, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: purple on June 02, 2011, 09:12:29 PM
I heard one of the boys SI slandered is a Youngstown boy,that his dad is upset and is going to sue.  If,and I repeat if, this rumor is true,the guys at SI better pray the case isn't filed in Youngstown and hang onto their hats if it is. Call of of their boys a crook? In Mahoning County? In Youngstown? Get ready for the reality series, " Going to trial in Mahoning County Common Please Court Against Youngstown Lawyers in Front of a Mahoning County Jury." Maybe those guys should have read up some on Mahoning County and Youngstown first.  Do you think the people there agree with SI about Coach Tressel? Think they might get upset about SI lying about their own?
You are correct about it being a kid from Younstown.  I think if they can go after some deep pockets they should.  There is no excuse for such shoddy journalism.  And it will helkp OSU if they expose these writers for piling on.  15 yard or 15 million dollar penalty.

Yeesh! Really, you're going to argue the problem in this situation is the media and journalists?!? Really, it's not the screwed up program, screwed up coach(es?) and some screwed up players? This circling of the wagons and scapegoating is why tOSU  ::) is in the situation it's in.

The major problem here is that everyone is trying to shift blame. The administration is blaming the coach, the coach is blaming the feds and his 'fatherly instincts', the players are blaming their impoverished upbringings. If some people would take some personal responsibility, it would go a long ways to restoring the Universities name. And if tOSU's fans would get off their high horses and recognize their beloved school cheated and broke the rules...period...the school would be forced to own up to accountability a whole lot faster.

Say what you want about the school, but one reason it's reacted so poorly to this whole fiasco is that it has a fan-base who are blindly loyal and promote such underhanded tactics. Which is precisely the reason this type of thing is so rampant in the SEC...

Whew...now that I got that off my chest!

Pat Coleman

+1

I expected to see the attack-the-messenger angle on a Buckeyes message board but not here.
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joelmama

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Quote from: hazzben on June 04, 2011, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: joelmama on June 02, 2011, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: purple on June 02, 2011, 09:12:29 PM
I heard one of the boys SI slandered is a Youngstown boy,that his dad is upset and is going to sue.  If,and I repeat if, this rumor is true,the guys at SI better pray the case isn't filed in Youngstown and hang onto their hats if it is. Call of of their boys a crook? In Mahoning County? In Youngstown? Get ready for the reality series, " Going to trial in Mahoning County Common Please Court Against Youngstown Lawyers in Front of a Mahoning County Jury." Maybe those guys should have read up some on Mahoning County and Youngstown first.  Do you think the people there agree with SI about Coach Tressel? Think they might get upset about SI lying about their own?
You are correct about it being a kid from Younstown.  I think if they can go after some deep pockets they should.  There is no excuse for such shoddy journalism.  And it will helkp OSU if they expose these writers for piling on.  15 yard or 15 million dollar penalty.

Yeesh! Really, you're going to argue the problem in this situation is the media and journalists?!? Really, it's not the screwed up program, screwed up coach(es?) and some screwed up players? This circling of the wagons and scapegoating is why tOSU  ::) is in the situation it's in.

The major problem here is that everyone is trying to shift blame. The administration is blaming the coach, the coach is blaming the feds and his 'fatherly instincts', the players are blaming their impoverished upbringings. If some people would take some personal responsibility, it would go a long ways to restoring the Universities name. And if tOSU's fans would get off their high horses and recognize their beloved school cheated and broke the rules...period...the school would be forced to own up to accountability a whole lot faster.

Say what you want about the school, but one reason it's reacted so poorly to this whole fiasco is that it has a fan-base who are blindly loyal and promote such underhanded tactics. Which is precisely the reason this type of thing is so rampant in the SEC...

Whew...now that I got that off my chest!
I do however know two of these kids personally mentioned in the SI article.  I am not condoning anything anyone at OSU did period.  I do know for a fact that these two kids did not get tatoos at the parlor as the SI story said.  One got his in Youngstown and I remember talking to his dad about it who didn't like it but he went with the kid to check it (the parlor) out when he got them.  The other kid does not have a tatoo on his body.  He told my nephew he has never been in a tatoo parlor in his life.  I think the same can be said about Nathan Williams too but I only know what I know through one of the players parents in this regard.  If SI does this shoddy of a story and quotes a felon without checking any facts whatsoever then it makes the whole story suspect.  Prove to me anything that was in that story is the truth and then lend it some credibility until then it is pure garbage.  

Did the tOSU players screw up? Sure five or six did admitted and  lets go on unless you prove something else without it being pure speculation in the media then you are just rumor mongering.  There has been a lot of that already.

Nobody at OSU broke the law.  Period.  They broke NCAA rules.  Nobody was DUI, nobody hit their girlfriend or stole a laptop from a dorm room.  They sold their property for money that is against the rules.  In some of the cases speculated against Prior he took equipment that he was probably not due and sold that but again there is zero proof he did this.  Are the car deals all legit?  nobody has any proof that any of them are not.

So if you boill down what is known for sure the transfgressions (other than Tressel's cover-up) are pretty minor.  If they cannot prove anything else what is the appropriate penalty?

joelmama

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2011, 01:43:43 PM
+1

I expected to see the attack-the-messenger angle on a Buckeyes message board but not here.
Pat how would you feel if a national magazine published a nasty story about your son and it was all false?

mr_mom

Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2011, 01:43:43 PM
+1

I expected to see the attack-the-messenger angle on a Buckeyes message board but not here.
Thanks, Pat!  Voice of reason.
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badgerwarhawk

It would appear that tatoos are only the tip of the OSU iceberg.   It's a shame because they're an elite program in the Big Ten and it sheds a bad light on the entire conference when one it's programs comes under NCAA investigation.  Last year it was Michigan.  Hopefully this is where it ends.
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Quote from: joelmama on June 04, 2011, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: hazzben on June 04, 2011, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: joelmama on June 02, 2011, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: purple on June 02, 2011, 09:12:29 PM
I heard one of the boys SI slandered is a Youngstown boy,that his dad is upset and is going to sue.  If,and I repeat if, this rumor is true,the guys at SI better pray the case isn't filed in Youngstown and hang onto their hats if it is. Call of of their boys a crook? In Mahoning County? In Youngstown? Get ready for the reality series, " Going to trial in Mahoning County Common Please Court Against Youngstown Lawyers in Front of a Mahoning County Jury." Maybe those guys should have read up some on Mahoning County and Youngstown first.  Do you think the people there agree with SI about Coach Tressel? Think they might get upset about SI lying about their own?
You are correct about it being a kid from Younstown.  I think if they can go after some deep pockets they should.  There is no excuse for such shoddy journalism.  And it will helkp OSU if they expose these writers for piling on.  15 yard or 15 million dollar penalty.

Yeesh! Really, you're going to argue the problem in this situation is the media and journalists?!? Really, it's not the screwed up program, screwed up coach(es?) and some screwed up players? This circling of the wagons and scapegoating is why tOSU  ::) is in the situation it's in.

The major problem here is that everyone is trying to shift blame. The administration is blaming the coach, the coach is blaming the feds and his 'fatherly instincts', the players are blaming their impoverished upbringings. If some people would take some personal responsibility, it would go a long ways to restoring the Universities name. And if tOSU's fans would get off their high horses and recognize their beloved school cheated and broke the rules...period...the school would be forced to own up to accountability a whole lot faster.

Say what you want about the school, but one reason it's reacted so poorly to this whole fiasco is that it has a fan-base who are blindly loyal and promote such underhanded tactics. Which is precisely the reason this type of thing is so rampant in the SEC...

Whew...now that I got that off my chest!


So if you boill down what is known for sure the transfgressions (other than Tressel's cover-up) are pretty minor.  If they cannot prove anything else what is the appropriate penalty?

If these alligations were so "minor" I don't think Tressel would be so quick to resign....or forced to resign.

I agree with what badgerwarhawk, I think there's more going on than JUST tatoos....this doesn't pass the smell test. Tressel wanted out before more allegations came down on him.

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Quote from: Kehresma on June 06, 2011, 06:55:10 PM
Glad to be back.  Is it September yet?  Looks like Piloto might be starting for the good guys... Man, I miss Raider football! 

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Glad you are back! Hope all is well. You must have some inside scoop on the Mount QB's +k :)
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