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seventiesraider · October 15, 2011, 05:05:52 PM

Stats are up on Heidelberg's site. I guess in the line of post game smack, Micheal Mees had never seen anything like Mount's defense. 6 completions and 3 int's

Desertraider · October 15, 2011, 05:29:02 PM

I think WRMU meant that Berg had only converted 5 3rd downs. They finished converting 6 3rd downs and had 14 1st downs on the day. Berg had some success running the ball - late, but that 6 for 22 with 3 ints is not anything to write home about if you are a QB. Mounts played solid D - I would have liked to see some sacks in the numbers. But who am I to nit-pick a 56-7 victory? Oh thats right - a fan! I keep looking at the QB stats for Mount. Is Piloto the better option? Piloto has a better completion % (69 to 62) and 11 yards per attempt to Seamans 7. Just curious.

rscl70 · October 15, 2011, 06:43:36 PM

JCU 33
Muskies 14

Have the fish had their 15 minutes of fame?

rscl70 · October 15, 2011, 06:45:09 PM

BW looking like a contender.

Raider 68 · October 15, 2011, 06:55:05 PM

rscl70,

Yes, the fish have been caught! I surprized by the B-W score over ONU and I think as you mentioned
that B-W will be the in the hunt for awhile.

1. The Raiders came on real strong on a windy day, but IMHO
the Raider D deserves the game ball.

2. They get my #1 Fan Poll vote this week. Collins contiues to excel and Murray is consistent

3. JCU does surprize me at 4-2. Is it possible they could be 7-3, or 6-4 Wow! $:-\$

4. Another great game call by Coach Kehres given the wind factor today.

mr_mom · October 15, 2011, 07:44:20 PM

Pick-Em results have been posted.

Congrats to aueagle with 11 of 14 points on a tough weather week. [And he forgot to submit a pick on the Cap-Ott game, so he was really 11 of 12]

rscl70 · October 15, 2011, 09:16:33 PM

Watching BW - ONU on STO.

I can't say I'm very impressed by either team.

seventiesraider · October 15, 2011, 11:10:01 PM

Quote from: rscl70 on October 15, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
Watching BW - ONU on STO.

I can't say I'm very impressed by either team.

I'll second that. Kinda of a shoving match.

PurpleSuit · October 16, 2011, 12:53:49 AM

Quote from: desertraider on October 15, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
I keep looking at the QB stats for Mount. Is Piloto the better option? Piloto has a better completion % (69 to 62) and 11 yards per attempt to Seamans 7. Just curious.

I for one think that Piloto is the better option. Neal is a good QB, but just doesn't have the arm strength needed. The first drive today was an example. On the first drive, Neal rolled to his throwing side and threw an out and the ball sort of just hung in the air. It was into the wind, but a final eight/final four team grabs that hanging ball and takes it to the house. Neal is missing Cecil a lot more than Piloto in my opinion.

Other than that, today was a great game by the Raiders. The first quarter seemed like LK was content with running the ball and and feeling out the conditions. After that it was 56 points in three quarters. The lone Berg TD was a 4th down broken play where the young QB was able to avoid the Mount blitz and get outside to the open space. Heidelberg is a program on the move though, its amazing how far they have come in such a short time. Definitely not a bottom-dweller any longer

Raider 68 · October 16, 2011, 04:28:09 AM

Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 16, 2011, 12:53:49 AM
Quote from: desertraider on October 15, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
I keep looking at the QB stats for Mount. Is Piloto the better option? Piloto has a better completion % (69 to 62) and 11 yards per attempt to Seamans 7. Just curious.

I for one think that Piloto is the better option. Neal is a good QB, but just doesn't have the arm strength needed. The first drive today was an example. On the first drive, Neal rolled to his throwing side and threw an out and the ball sort of just hung in the air. It was into the wind, but a final eight/final four team grabs that hanging ball and takes it to the house. Neal is missing Cecil a lot more than Piloto in my opinion.

Other than that, today was a great game by the Raiders. The first quarter seemed like LK was content with running the ball and and feeling out the conditions. After that it was 56 points in three quarters. The lone Berg TD was a 4th down broken play where the young QB was able to avoid the Mount blitz and get outside to the open space. Heidelberg is a program on the move though, its amazing how far they have come in such a short time. Definitely not a bottom-dweller any longer

PurpleSuit,

Agree, I have felt for some time that Piloto is the better QB in terms of arm strength and his efficiency in placing the ball to his WR's. Seaman has good mechanics, but he has not, IMHO, taken that next step as a passer in the Raider historical sense. Coach Kehres is fortunate to have the two QB's but I wonder who he would pick when he had to make that critical completion! This year vs. last year is the running game has really improved and the Raiders have great balance and go to players.

rscl70 · October 16, 2011, 07:26:43 AM

Piloto is also my preference at this point. He looks like a Mount Union QB to me. But we must keep in mind that we do not have the opportunity to see and evaluate Piloto and Seaman everyday in practice. There must be some reason(s) that LK continues to favor Neal. Perhaps he makes better more consistent reads in practice, or maybe LK likes the running threat Neal brings. I don't know the answer, but the speculation is fun for the fans.

BoBo · October 16, 2011, 07:58:10 AM

Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 16, 2011, 12:53:49 AM
Heidelberg is a program on the move though, its amazing how far they have come in such a short time. Definitely not a bottom-dweller any longer

I'm trying to understand the rationale behind this comment P'Suit, but failing. Maybe you can enlighten me. Losing 56-7 to UMU this year, after losing by an average score of 46-7 the 3 previous seasons, how far has the 'berg actually come? Just that stat would indicate they are 10 points worse than their 3 year average. Are they no longer a "bottom-dweller" because other teams have gotten progressively worse, more so than Heidelberg, over the same period of time? It would seem you didn't use the final scores to reach the conclusion you did, so, if I may ask, what is the basis for stating this opinion?

HScoach · October 16, 2011, 09:41:40 AM

Quote from: BoBo on October 16, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 16, 2011, 12:53:49 AM
Heidelberg is a program on the move though, its amazing how far they have come in such a short time. Definitely not a bottom-dweller any longer

I'm trying to understand the rationale behind this comment P'Suit, but failing. Maybe you can enlighten me. Losing 56-7 to UMU this year, after losing by an average score of 46-7 the 3 previous seasons, how far has the 'berg actually come? Just that stat would indicate they are 10 points worse than their 3 year average. Are they no longer a "bottom-dweller" because other teams have gotten progressively worse, more so than Heidelberg, over the same period of time? It would seem you didn't use the final scores to reach the conclusion you did, so, if I may ask, what is the basis for stating this opinion?

H'berg is now competing, and beating the average OAC teams. A few years ago they were getting drilled by the average OAC teams.

And their effort is much better against Mount now than it was before Hallett took over. The Raiders beat Wilmington, Marietta and Heidelberg by similar scores, but the difference between Wilma and H'berg is huge.

HScoach · October 16, 2011, 09:43:15 AM

Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 16, 2011, 12:53:49 AM
Quote from: desertraider on October 15, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
I keep looking at the QB stats for Mount. Is Piloto the better option? Piloto has a better completion % (69 to 62) and 11 yards per attempt to Seamans 7. Just curious.

I for one think that Piloto is the better option. Neal is a good QB, but just doesn't have the arm strength needed. The first drive today was an example. On the first drive, Neal rolled to his throwing side and threw an out and the ball sort of just hung in the air. It was into the wind, but a final eight/final four team grabs that hanging ball and takes it to the house. Neal is missing Cecil a lot more than Piloto in my opinion.

Other than that, today was a great game by the Raiders. The first quarter seemed like LK was content with running the ball and and feeling out the conditions. After that it was 56 points in three quarters. The lone Berg TD was a 4th down broken play where the young QB was able to avoid the Mount blitz and get outside to the open space. Heidelberg is a program on the move though, its amazing how far they have come in such a short time. Definitely not a bottom-dweller any longer

I agree that Piloto has a big arm, but I find it hard to believe he's throwing passes clear from Alliance to Jacksonville.

seventiesraider · October 16, 2011, 09:57:10 AM

Quote from: BoBo on October 16, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 16, 2011, 12:53:49 AM
Heidelberg is a program on the move though, its amazing how far they have come in such a short time. Definitely not a bottom-dweller any longer

I'm trying to understand the rationale behind this comment P'Suit, but failing. Maybe you can enlighten me. Losing 56-7 to UMU this year, after losing by an average score of 46-7 the 3 previous seasons, how far has the 'berg actually come? Just that stat would indicate they are 10 points worse than their 3 year average. Are they no longer a "bottom-dweller" because other teams have gotten progressively worse, more so than Heidelberg, over the same period of time? It would seem you didn't use the final scores to reach the conclusion you did, so, if I may ask, what is the basis for stating this opinion?

The variable, if I may use one of my "college words", is not Heidelberg but rather Mount Union. Through my rather biased eyes, I see a vastly different and improved MU team.