FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Bein_86]

Raider 68, I will be there. I have made a promise to my son that I would make every game that is humanly possible. I love him with all my heart and always want to be there to support him.

Here's hoping your experience at the game goes well and the fans are somewhat under control.

I attended the Musky-Ott game Saturday. Without a doubt, your son is a fantastic athlete. He was the only one worth watching at the game. The offensive playcalling on both sides was awful. I can't believe Ott doesn't have more plays designed to #7. They did make the plays when it mattered most late in the game.

That being said, whoever is calling the Musky plays needs to hand over the reigns. The entire offensive gameplan was either horribly designed, or there was no gameplan at all. I think it was about fourth and 7 with under a minute to go and they call a rollout pass for a 3 yard route.

Thank you for the kind comments. He still needs to get in better shape and he will do that before his final season, next year.

I would like to see him get the ball more too, but I am biased as a father. You have to trust in the coaches and hope all works out the way it is supposed to.

[Blutarsky]

I think its time to go with one QB. Its not fair to either QB.(not getting the necessary reps to be efficient). How do you stand on the sidelines for 15-20 minutes and be expected to bring your A game? I would hope that Piloto has the experience he would need. Its time to move ahead with Seaman. He was the OAC leading QB at different times during his sophomore year. We need to get him back to that level. Its a shame we didnt build on that year! But IMHO, by shuffling him around this year, his lack of efficiency has been affected. If we are going to make it back to the Stagg Bowl, it is going to be through him, by not only making plays with his legs, but by dishing the ball out to our very talented wide reciever corp.

Mr. Seaman

You probably shouldn't use your personal email address and then endorse #12 left and right.  Yeesh.

is this a first?? (critical comments of the UMU/MUC program from a parent of a player)

"Ruh-roh"......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_C2HJvtRDY

[PurpleSuit]

I would think that everyone agrees that a two-QB system is not the ideal way to run an offense.  The bottom line is that if Neal would have built upon his soph year, we would not be having this discussion.  Even if you just look at the stats and not watch the games, he has regressed quite a bit after losing his Shorts and his safety blanket in Kyle Miller.  No longer is there an option to run Cecil on a shallow crossing route and he turns a 3 yard completion into a 60 yard TD. IMO his running ability is the only thing keeping him as the starter, he doesn't posses the arm strength that we typically see in a Mount QB.  Completing 60% and averaging 6 yards per attempt is not really going to loosen up the defense to help out the running game. 

[in-the-trenches]

Im not afraid to give my opinion either.The bottom line is we all want to get back to the Stagg. Whatever road the Coaching staff  decides to go, I will fully support it.

[seventiesraider]

Im not afraid to give my opinion either.The bottom line is we all want to get back to the Stagg. Whatever road the Coaching staff  decides to go, I will fully support it.

I'm still in favor as Neil as a dual threat running back behind Piloto. And no, it;s far from the dumbest thing I ever said.

BTW-Congrats to SE, your farm boys beat up on our 5'9" sophmore QB. The good news is we graduate two starters and five total. See ya next year.

[seventiesraider]

 Ya gotta love Massey Ratings. Whitewater drops to #2, behind Amherst. WTF. This Bozo invented the BCS ratings

[edward de vere]

Considering the bad mood Reality Check's in, I hope he doesn't see the quotes from Larry Kehres about the Capital game in today's Alliance Review. . . .

[Desertraider]

I think its time to go with one QB. Its not fair to either QB.(not getting the necessary reps to be efficient). How do you stand on the sidelines for 15-20 minutes and be expected to bring your A game? I would hope that Piloto has the experience he would need. Its time to move ahead with Seaman. He was the OAC leading QB at different times during his sophomore year. We need to get him back to that level. Its a shame we didnt build on that year! But IMHO, by shuffling him around this year, his lack of efficiency has been affected. If we are going to make it back to the Stagg Bowl, it is going to be through him, by not only making plays with his legs, but by dishing the ball out to our very talented wide reciever corp.

Ask Zac Bruney or Jessie Burghardt. Granted Mount didn't win it all that year - but it wasn't because of a 2qb system. I think the reason for the 2 is that Seaman is not very good on longer throws (not just downfield but 15-20 yard outs). The ball seems to hang in the air begging to be intercepted. However, Piloto lacks Neils mobility and shorter accuracy (excluding the CAP game). It has been said on here before that combined they make a hell of a QB, but they are not combined and both have some real flaws. I do agree that Seaman seems to have regressed from last year.

[Desertraider]

Im not afraid to give my opinion either.The bottom line is we all want to get back to the Stagg. Whatever road the Coaching staff  decides to go, I will fully support it.

Really hate to nit-pick here but Mount doesn't want to get to the Stagg, they want to win it. We have talked about this ad nauseum in previous posts (scroll back in time). Mount is expected to be in the Stagg - by Coaches, Players, and Fans (and even non-fans). That comes with being the resident 800lb gorilla (UWW is a serious 650lb gorilla - and growing every year!). Winning it is the goal every year. Come on we have even joked about Mount keeping their equipment in Salem so they don't have to transport it back and forth every year.

[rscl70]

I think its time to go with one QB. Its not fair to either QB.(not getting the necessary reps to be efficient). How do you stand on the sidelines for 15-20 minutes and be expected to bring your A game? I would hope that Piloto has the experience he would need. Its time to move ahead with Seaman. He was the OAC leading QB at different times during his sophomore year. We need to get him back to that level. Its a shame we didnt build on that year! But IMHO, by shuffling him around this year, his lack of efficiency has been affected. If we are going to make it back to the Stagg Bowl, it is going to be through him, by not only making plays with his legs, but by dishing the ball out to our very talented wide reciever corp.

Ask Zac Bruney or Jessie Burghardt. Granted Mount didn't win it all that year - but it wasn't because of a 2qb system. I think the reason for the 2 is that Seaman is not very good on longer throws (not just downfield but 15-20 yard outs). The ball seems to hang in the air begging to be intercepted. However, Piloto lacks Neils mobility and shorter accuracy (excluding the CAP game). It has been said on here before that combined they make a hell of a QB, but they are not combined and both have some real flaws. I do agree that Seaman seems to have regressed from last year.

In the 32 years that I have been regularly attending Mount Union football games, I can not remember a year with such inconsistent play at QB.  Whether you favor Piloto for his arm strength or Seaman for his legs, you just can't have real confidence in either one.  This team will make it back to the Stagg, but unless the QB play greatly improves we will not see "11 in 11."  The defense is ready and we have a great receiving corp, but we have to get the ball to them.  The running game is good, but not strong enough to beat Whitewater without a passing game.  If I had an answer to the problem I guess I'd be coaching somewhere.  Hopefully LK can still figure out how to fix it.  Maybe we should put Seaman under center and run the triple option with Murray, Simon and Skilliter in the backfield.

[badgerwarhawk]

Really hate to nit-pick here but Mount doesn't want to get to the Stagg, they want to win it. We have talked about this ad nauseum in previous posts (scroll back in time). Mount is expected to be in the Stagg - by Coaches, Players, and Fans (and even non-fans). That comes with being the resident 800lb gorilla (UWW is a serious 650lb gorilla - and growing every year!). Winning it is the goal every year. Come on we have even joked about Mount keeping their equipment in Salem so they don't have to transport it back and forth every year.

I've wondered why Mount fans just don't buy time shares in Salem. 

[ExTartanPlayer]

I would think that everyone agrees that a two-QB system is not the ideal way to run an offense.  The bottom line is that if Neal would have built upon his soph year, we would not be having this discussion.

This is true.

Mr. Seaman, I know it's difficult for you to accept, but the fact is that there is a precedent here.  I'm sure that another UMU/MUC fan can better recap this situation for you, but I recall a similar scenario in 2006.  Mount Union had a returning All-American QB in Mike Jorris (who led Mount to the 2005 National Title), but as the season went on, Greg Micheli began to take more and more snaps because he offered a running threat that Jorris lacked.  Micheli played virtually all of the 2006 Stagg Bowl because he was the quarterback that gave Mount the best chance to win in that situation.

I don't particularly favor a two-QB system myself, but Coach Kehres has won a Stagg before with judicious use of two quarterbacks when he feels the circumstances dictate it.  The situation this year seems fairly similar to that one: one quarterback offers something that the other does not, and the coaching staff feels that the benefit of utilizing that talent outweighs the possible harm done to each QB's respective confidence.

[Raider 68]

I think its time to go with one QB. Its not fair to either QB.(not getting the necessary reps to be efficient). How do you stand on the sidelines for 15-20 minutes and be expected to bring your A game? I would hope that Piloto has the experience he would need. Its time to move ahead with Seaman. He was the OAC leading QB at different times during his sophomore year. We need to get him back to that level. Its a shame we didnt build on that year! But IMHO, by shuffling him around this year, his lack of efficiency has been affected. If we are going to make it back to the Stagg Bowl, it is going to be through him, by not only making plays with his legs, but by dishing the ball out to our very talented wide reciever corp.

Ask Zac Bruney or Jessie Burghardt. Granted Mount didn't win it all that year - but it wasn't because of a 2qb system. I think the reason for the 2 is that Seaman is not very good on longer throws (not just downfield but 15-20 yard outs). The ball seems to hang in the air begging to be intercepted. However, Piloto lacks Neils mobility and shorter accuracy (excluding the CAP game). It has been said on here before that combined they make a hell of a QB, but they are not combined and both have some real flaws. I do agree that Seaman seems to have regressed from last year.

In the 32 years that I have been regularly attending Mount Union football games, I can not remember a year with such inconsistent play at QB.  Whether you favor Piloto for his arm strength or Seaman for his legs, you just can't have real confidence in either one.  This team will make it back to the Stagg, but unless the QB play greatly improves we will not see "11 in 11."  The defense is ready and we have a great receiving corp, but we have to get the ball to them.  The running game is good, but not strong enough to beat Whitewater without a passing game.  If I had an answer to the problem I guess I'd be coaching somewhere.  Hopefully LK can still figure out how to fix it.  Maybe we should put Seaman under center and run the triple option with Murray, Simon and Skilliter in the backfield.

rscl70,

Good post. Last year i was one of those who said Piloto would be my choice since he was more the "typical" Raider QB. Last year's Stagg "may" have been different had he had more reps as the starter and this year he is getting that. As mentioned before, you have to utilize the this receiving group. Coach Kehres will figure it out,  but I would start Piloto and utilize Seaman to keep the defense unsure of his running or short passing game and play one a whole quarter regardless of the number of series. With only 3 games left before the playoffs, the passing attack needs to step up and set the stage for the playoffs, assuming Mount wins the conference. The other issue is this situation will be around for next year as well since both QB's are juniors!

[seventiesraider]

Really hate to nit-pick here but Mount doesn't want to get to the Stagg, they want to win it. We have talked about this ad nauseum in previous posts (scroll back in time). Mount is expected to be in the Stagg - by Coaches, Players, and Fans (and even non-fans). That comes with being the resident 800lb gorilla (UWW is a serious 650lb gorilla - and growing every year!). Winning it is the goal every year. Come on we have even joked about Mount keeping their equipment in Salem so they don't have to transport it back and forth every year.

I've wondered why Mount fans just don't buy time shares in Salem.

Because the Hotel Roanoke is way to sweet

[seventiesraider]

BTW-I personally support naming the starter based on the weeks practice and only pulling him if he doesn't get it done.

But for those who are long in the tooth, we remember that a kid from Diamond Ohio was a platooned QB in a two QB system round about 1970