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skunks_sidekick

Quote from: Blutarsky on October 24, 2011, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 24, 2011, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: reality check on October 24, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: in-the-trenches on October 24, 2011, 10:23:27 AM
I think its time to go with one QB. Its not fair to either QB.(not getting the necessary reps to be efficient). How do you stand on the sidelines for 15-20 minutes and be expected to bring your A game? I would hope that Piloto has the experience he would need. Its time to move ahead with Seaman. He was the OAC leading QB at different times during his sophomore year. We need to get him back to that level. Its a shame we didnt build on that year! But IMHO, by shuffling him around this year, his lack of efficiency has been affected. If we are going to make it back to the Stagg Bowl, it is going to be through him, by not only making plays with his legs, but by dishing the ball out to our very talented wide reciever corp.

Mr. Seaman

You probably shouldn't use your personal email address and then endorse #12 left and right.  Yeesh.

is this a first?? (critical comments of the UMU/MUC program from a parent of a player)

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Quote from: seventiesraider on October 24, 2011, 03:29:29 PM
BTW-I personally support naming the starter based on the weeks practice and only pulling him if he doesn't get it done.

But for those who are long in the tooth, we remember that a kid from Diamond Ohio was a platooned QB in a two QB system round about 1970

Competition for playing time is a real motivator! Let's hope that both QB's can up their performance for the final regular season games. I am betting they will! (especially with a large boot on their backside) ;D
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seventiesraider

 While I'm still not going gaga over Capital's defense, with 10 tackles and 6 assists, Rootstown's Troy Spiker was a one man defense for Cap. And one hell of a shot putter and discus thrower.
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rscl70

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on October 24, 2011, 02:34:01 PM
Quote from: desertraider on October 24, 2011, 01:28:46 PM

Really hate to nit-pick here but Mount doesn't want to get to the Stagg, they want to win it. We have talked about this ad nauseum in previous posts (scroll back in time). Mount is expected to be in the Stagg - by Coaches, Players, and Fans (and even non-fans). That comes with being the resident 800lb gorilla (UWW is a serious 650lb gorilla - and growing every year!). Winning it is the goal every year. Come on we have even joked about Mount keeping their equipment in Salem so they don't have to transport it back and forth every year.


I've wondered why Mount fans just don't buy time shares in Salem.

My wife and I have considered it.  ;D
12-0 = 13

Toph

Quote from: in-the-trenches on October 24, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
Im not afraid to give my opinion either.The bottom line is we all want to get back to the Stagg. Whatever road the Coaching staff  decides to go, I will fully support it.

I don't think anyone is suggesting you should not voice your opinion, although some might advise some discretion.  Full disclosure would have been a good start in this case.

purple

I went to the Capital game. I was wondering why we ran six off tackle right plays in a row. It seemed to me we were experimenting,like the outcome of the game was never in doubt and LK wanted to try some things out. It was obvious Cap was not going to score. The TD they got was a miracle catch into good coverage. We are going to need both QBs,and I think LK knows that.     BW coaches should never have allowed their team to score 75 points. Remember Gary Smeck and the 41-0 halftime score at the BW Homecoming game? LK doesn't let his teams humiliate another OAC school. I wasn't at the BW-Wilming game,so maybe I shouldn't talk but that score seems excessive and poor sportsmanship.      Wesley smashed Walsh over in Canton,so I hope we have seen the last of the Walsh's coach digs at the Purples. Hey,if Wesley can beat you easily....

seventiesraider

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 Got agree with Purple because much of Saturday looked more like a scrimmage. Running the same play over and over.Trying new faces at key spots. Still doesn't explain over throwing a 5'6"v receiver (or perhaps a 6'5" receiver)
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PurpleSuit

Quote from: purple on October 24, 2011, 09:37:43 PM
I went to the Capital game. I was wondering why we ran six off tackle right plays in a row. It seemed to me we were experimenting,like the outcome of the game was never in doubt and LK wanted to try some things out. It was obvious Cap was not going to score. The TD they got was a miracle catch into good coverage. We are going to need both QBs,and I think LK knows that.     BW coaches should never have allowed their team to score 75 points. Remember Gary Smeck and the 41-0 halftime score at the BW Homecoming game? LK doesn't let his teams humiliate another OAC school. I wasn't at the BW-Wilming game,so maybe I shouldn't talk but that score seems excessive and poor sportsmanship.      Wesley smashed Walsh over in Canton,so I hope we have seen the last of the Walsh's coach digs at the Purples. Hey,if Wesley can beat you easily....

No offense to Wesley but Walsh and Malone are in for a wake up call in their transition to D2.  Especially if they get their wish to join the GLIAC..ie Grand Valley State.

I have also noticed that Mount has been extremely vanilla in their run game this year.  At times it seems like LK calls maybe 2 or 3 different running plays for an entire half.  I am not questioning LK, but it seems that he may be holding a lot of the playbook back. 

That BW score was rather shocking, but three of their last five TD's were defensive or returns.  Might be more Wilma than BW in the 75 points.  Sad program down in Wilmington

Tmak53

The BW coachs didnt let the team score 75 on Wilma I have watched the game last 4 scores came on interceptions punt returns and the second half kickoff. Hell most of the kids that played in the second half were jv maybe even some freshmen didnt recognize any of thier names might have been out in the parking lot dressing some area hs kids. Wilma would get beat by most D1 highschool teams they are that bad. I will give them credit they never quit playing just need alot of help.

BoBo

Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 25, 2011, 12:34:16 AM
That BW score was rather shocking, but three of their last five TD's were defensive or returns.  Might be more Wilma than BW in the 75 points.  Sad program down in Wilmington

Baseball has the 10 run mercy rule; do you think it's feasible or practical to have some kind of similar rule, maybe a continuous running clock, in games such as this, in NCAA football? Some states already do it for H.S. football.
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rscl70

Quote from: seventiesraider on October 24, 2011, 11:34:15 PM
Got agree with Purple because much of Saturday looked more like a scrimmage. Running the same play over and over.Trying new faces at key spots. Still doesn't explain over throwing a 5'6"v receiver

The QB's would be lucky if they could even see a 5'6" receiver.
12-0 = 13

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Quote from: BoBo on October 25, 2011, 06:35:35 AM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 25, 2011, 12:34:16 AM
That BW score was rather shocking, but three of their last five TD's were defensive or returns.  Might be more Wilma than BW in the 75 points.  Sad program down in Wilmington

Baseball has the 10 run mercy rule; do you think it's feasible or practical to have some kind of similar rule, maybe a continuous running clock, in games such as this, in NCAA football? Some states already do it for H.S. football.

We have the running clock rule here in FL.  If one team is winning by at least 35 points in the 3rd quarter the opposing Coach can choose to go to the running clock.  If one team is winning by at least 35 in the 4th quarter, it is automatically a running clock.

The team I coach has been on both sides of this rule this year.  When we were winning by +35, we were very vanilla on offense.  Run middle, run middle, and then run middle again.

I think it is a good rule for HS football, because it keeps kids from being embarrassed too much.  Although we beat a team 35-0 a few weeks back and then lost 59-6 last week.  The team that just beat us, beat the common opponent 70-0, so you can run up the score, even with a running clock.

For college football, I think you just play the game.  These are not young kids anymore, they are Young Men and both teams practice hard and deserve to play the full game.
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Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 24, 2011, 11:24:26 AM
I would think that everyone agrees that a two-QB system is not the ideal way to run an offense.  The bottom line is that if Neal would have built upon his soph year, we would not be having this discussion.  Even if you just look at the stats and not watch the games, he has regressed quite a bit after losing his Shorts and his safety blanket in Kyle Miller.  No longer is there an option to run Cecil on a shallow crossing route and he turns a 3 yard completion into a 60 yard TD. IMO his running ability is the only thing keeping him as the starter, he doesn't posses the arm strength that we typically see in a Mount QB.  Completing 60% and averaging 6 yards per attempt is not really going to loosen up the defense to help out the running game.

I agree

The problem is the real strength of our offense is our receiving corps. With Neal we have little chance of throwing deep successfully. Last year Cecil would have the secondary beat deep only to have to stop and come back to try and make a play on the ball. The other issue with arm strength is hitting the receiver in space; getting the ball delivered timely so the receiver can turn up field and utilize his speed.

Clearly teams are going to play 8 or more in the box to stuff the run, if we can't stretch the defense with a legitimate deep threat. Hopefully we can get this worked out but I wish we weren't in week 8 with the same problem we saw in week 1. I really think Matt has to get some extended playing time over the next few weeks.
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ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: purple on October 24, 2011, 09:37:43 PM
I went to the Capital game. I was wondering why we ran six off tackle right plays in a row. It seemed to me we were experimenting,like the outcome of the game was never in doubt and LK wanted to try some things out. It was obvious Cap was not going to score. The TD they got was a miracle catch into good coverage. We are going to need both QBs, and I think LK knows that.

This is a good point, and it's something that a lot of casual fans have a very hard time grasping; a good coach often tries to build his team for what lies ahead rather than just calling the best plays for the here-and-now. 

I spoke about this once with my high school coach.  We had used a rather curious gameplan (passing a lot more than usual) and struggled to a lackluster 28-0 victory over a very weak opponent.  After the game, I asked our coach why we had passed so much rather than running our standard Wing-T running offense (which the opposition couldn't have stopped with 15 guys on the field).  He responded that we were going to need the passing game more in the playoffs, and that he wanted to experiment with some new passing plays in a game where the outcome was never in doubt.  Made sense to me.  Ever since then, I've always tried to consider a coaches' actions in the larger context of the season rather than strictly in one game (especially high-school and college coaches).

As previously stated, UMU might need both QB's.  Why not play them both now, knowing that you'll have a few more OAC games to figure it out, and settle on the best strategy once we get deeper into the playoffs?  With Musky falling back to earth, Balwdin-Wallace is the only legitimate threat left on the UMU schedule.
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Anyone heard about the injury status of J. Collins and J. Murray? :-\
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