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Quote from: Toph on November 21, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
I haven't seen this discussed anywhere yet, and I wanted to bring it up.  I was at the BU/UMU game on Saturday.  Does anyone have any insight into what in the world the BU coaching staff was thinking at the end of the 1st half? 

It's not that they threw a pick six, it's the route they took to get there.  The Eagles were just running the ball, huddling, and seemed in no hurry whatsoever to get the play off.  It seemed to me that they were going content to take the 20-7 score to the locker room (personally, I would've taken a shot and tried to score...especially with Mount getting the ball to start the 2nd).  The Eagles inexplicably call a pass with very little time left (under a minute if I recall) and the clock running.  It gets picked, end zone, 27-7.

I just don't understand what the coaches' plan was in that situation.  Either take your shot, try to get 3 or 6 before the half, run a hurry up offense, and see what happens...or keep in on the ground with the outside chance that you can break a big run, and run out the clock...but don't do a combination of the two.  It was baffling.

The other element of BU's gameplan that I didn't understand was substituting every single defensive play based on the personnel Mount brought on the field, regardless of down and distance.  It caused defensive confusion, players running on and off at the last second, and seemed a bit chaotic on the sideline.  I think that's overthinking things and making the already difficult task of stopping the Mount Union offense practically impossible.

Just my two takeaways from Saturday.

Toph,

Agree, do not understand BU's clock management at all. HScoach said on the broadcast that BU was very deliberate in taking all the time for a full huddle. That approach might be advisable when you have a good lead, but not when you are behind and  trying to catch up.  ::)
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Quote from: Toph on November 21, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
I haven't seen this discussed anywhere yet, and I wanted to bring it up.  I was at the BU/UMU game on Saturday.  Does anyone have any insight into what in the world the BU coaching staff was thinking at the end of the 1st half? 

It's not that they threw a pick six, it's the route they took to get there.

I don't know why but this struck me as funny! Maybe they were managing the clock before their pick six to make sure they didn't have enough time to throw another one!  :)

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Thank you to all for the well wishes towards my son Trey. He feels very honored and humbled. So many great players in this conference. Congrats to all those that received All-OAC honors. Here is the write up from the Bein and longtime SID Ed Syguda.

http://www.otterbeincardinals.com/news/2011/11/21/FB_1121112226.aspx

Toph

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 21, 2011, 04:49:57 PM
Quote from: Toph on November 21, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
I haven't seen this discussed anywhere yet, and I wanted to bring it up.  I was at the BU/UMU game on Saturday.  Does anyone have any insight into what in the world the BU coaching staff was thinking at the end of the 1st half? 

It's not that they threw a pick six, it's the route they took to get there.

I don't know why but this struck me as funny! Maybe they were managing the clock before their pick six to make sure they didn't have enough time to throw another one!  :)

I guess what I mean is that I'm never going to fault a coach or a player for trying to make a play at the end of the half, especially when Mount gets the ball after the break.  But to try to run down the time, then all of a sudden decide to throw the ball made no sense.  Either take a shot, or run out the clock.  Don't do both because you'll end up down 20 points with 5 seconds to go in the half.

wrdad

Quote from: Raider 68 on November 21, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: Toph on November 21, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
I haven't seen this discussed anywhere yet, and I wanted to bring it up.  I was at the BU/UMU game on Saturday.  Does anyone have any insight into what in the world the BU coaching staff was thinking at the end of the 1st half? 

It's not that they threw a pick six, it's the route they took to get there.  The Eagles were just running the ball, huddling, and seemed in no hurry whatsoever to get the play off.  It seemed to me that they were going content to take the 20-7 score to the locker room (personally, I would've taken a shot and tried to score...especially with Mount getting the ball to start the 2nd).  The Eagles inexplicably call a pass with very little time left (under a minute if I recall) and the clock running.  It gets picked, end zone, 27-7.

I just don't understand what the coaches' plan was in that situation.  Either take your shot, try to get 3 or 6 before the half, run a hurry up offense, and see what happens...or keep in on the ground with the outside chance that you can break a big run, and run out the clock...but don't do a combination of the two.  It was baffling.

The other element of BU's gameplan that I didn't understand was substituting every single defensive play based on the personnel Mount brought on the field, regardless of down and distance.  It caused defensive confusion, players running on and off at the last second, and seemed a bit chaotic on the sideline.  I think that's overthinking things and making the already difficult task of stopping the Mount Union offense practically impossible.

Just my two takeaways from Saturday.

Toph,

Agree, do not understand BU's clock management at all. HScoach said on the broadcast that BU was very deliberate in taking all the time for a full huddle. That approach might be advisable when you have a good lead, but not when you are behind and  trying to catch up.  ::)

Not that it matter but benedictine didn't score there td till the 3rd quarter, so the score would've only been 20-0 at the half. :)

raiderpa

The Heidelberg release mentioned that Hallett brings back all skill players and either 7 or 9 defensive starters.  I would say that Mike is doing a great job making sure the  success is not short-lived.

raiderpa

Best matchup this week may be at Wabash.  Tall order for the oxymorons, but hope to see a matchup with Kehres and Raeburn.  Is Raeburn his brother in law or nephew?  I have heard both.

rscl70

Quote from: raiderpa on November 21, 2011, 05:50:40 PM
Best matchup this week may be at Wabash.  Tall order for the oxymorons, but hope to see a matchup with Kehres and Raeburn.  Is Raeburn his brother in law or nephew?  I have heard both.

Nephew.  Coach Raeburn married Liz Pugh, Dan's big sis.
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Quote from: rscl70 on November 21, 2011, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: raiderpa on November 21, 2011, 05:50:40 PM
Best matchup this week may be at Wabash.  Tall order for the oxymorons, but hope to see a matchup with Kehres and Raeburn.  Is Raeburn his brother in law or nephew?  I have heard both.

Nephew.  Coach Raeburn married Liz Pugh, Dan's big sis.

I touched on some of the family connections in a column I wrote earlier this year: Pugh family name
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Quote from: HScoach on November 21, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
Only in Kentucky would it be both

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OAC Runners-Up: 2017, 2016, 2015, 2010, 2009, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1982, 1941 (Stupid Mount Union!)
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d3fan1515

Hey guys, I posted something very similar on the NAC board about the offensive play calling for BU being SUSPECT... Now you guys can see what I've been dealing with all year! We lost our last game of the year this season due to TERRIBLE clock management as well! If not for fantastic individual efforts by our impact players, we would have never made it to the post-season! I am usually not one to call out coaches, but there are times when it is laughable as you saw against Mt. Union! I am hoping for some sort of change as BU has some very talented players! WORST 2 Minute Drill I have ever seen, either your running the clock out, or your trying to score, PICK ONE!

Next yr we return 9 on O and 9 on D, they are also beefing up their non-conf schedule, which if we can win out in conference will hopefully help in seeding and maybe we wont have to play a Mt. Union or UWW... Great game by Mt, that defense really flies around and I am pulling for you guys, if your going to lose in the Post-Season, it might as well be against the champion! Good luck guys!

Just for conversation, what were your impressions of the BU team? Did anything about them impress you or no???

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Benedictine also needs to win the non-conference games. It's good to take a step up but gotta be able to beat North Park and Kalamazoo.
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