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PurpleSuit

how about Nick Driskill being North region Defensive Player of the Year?  Not even a second team pre-season All-American, but the kid should be the National Defensive Player of the Year.  He is everywhere.   That Dieuseul guy is ok too and Ferrara is decent.

I dont know how this team is in the semi's with the second half domination they took from Wabash?  ::)

Bein_86

Congrats to all the OAC players making All_Region

Raider 68

Congrats to Nick Driskill as North Region Defensive player of the year and Coach Hallet for North Region Coach of the year! :)
13 time Division III National Champions

joelmama

Quote from: rscl70 on December 05, 2011, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: joelmama on December 05, 2011, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 05, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Got a hip pointer in college playing on an intramural flag football team.  Watch the comments, Gentlemen.  ;) Couldn't believe how painful it was. If you have never had one, it is hard to imagine.  Hopefully, he is fine by the weekend.
Did the same playing the same game in college.  My experience though comes from being the last "non-professional" trainer at MUC before they adopted the major in athletic training.  I like to think that having an accounting major undergraduate as the head trainer led them to understanding why they needed pros doing that job.   ;D

How did you get the job?  Was there an ankle taping contest?
Almost.  I was torn between getting a major in Athletic training or Business.  I was going to go to Michigan State for athletic Training (had a half scholarship) but during my senior year of high school decided to go into business.  During high school I took night courses in the athletic training program at Kent State so I was a little better than just an ankle taper.  The way I got into it was that during my freshman year I didn't do anything with the team.  In the late summer during two a days I was moving into my fraternity house and I noticed a friend was sitting in his room with his foot in a waste can filled with ice.  He asked if I knew anyone who was a trainer and I told him I was.  He said I should talk to coach Kehres (then O Coordinator) to see if he would hire me, because the student trainers they had in his words were "worthless" (and they really were).  So I traded in my work study from the library to the training room.  Mid way through the season they asked me to be head trainer and I said I would with a couple of conditions.  I wanted some business experience so I wanted to control the budget for supplies etc as well as manage and recruit other trainers.  They agreed.  What was great was that my work study was for about $500-$600 per year but as a trainer I put in about 1000 hours and @$3.00 (Maybe a little more) per hour it was a huge financial windfall and I loved the work.  It really was a good training ground (no pun intended) for my business career having that type of responsibility when I was only 19-20 years old.  At the time we had real safety issues.  We didn't have an ambulance at games which I made happen.  Also after my senior year I went to the President of the college and had ameeting where I told them that I thought they had a real potential liability issue for the school.  The way I explained it was that as good as I was at what I did I was not a professional and that if there was a serious life threatening situation it doesn't matter how well I or the other trainers handled it if their wasn't a pro around and someone was seriously injured or died the school might be liable for a big damages award.  I think this convinced the powers that be to start the major in athletic training within the next year or two.  This is something that LK had wanted for a while (at least a prfessional trainer on staff and I know he was happy he got that and gives me at least some of the credit).

rscl70

Quote from: joelmama on December 06, 2011, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: rscl70 on December 05, 2011, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: joelmama on December 05, 2011, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 05, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Got a hip pointer in college playing on an intramural flag football team.  Watch the comments, Gentlemen.  ;) Couldn't believe how painful it was. If you have never had one, it is hard to imagine.  Hopefully, he is fine by the weekend.
Did the same playing the same game in college.  My experience though comes from being the last "non-professional" trainer at MUC before they adopted the major in athletic training.  I like to think that having an accounting major undergraduate as the head trainer led them to understanding why they needed pros doing that job.   ;D

How did you get the job?  Was there an ankle taping contest?
Almost.  I was torn between getting a major in Athletic training or Business.  I was going to go to Michigan State for athletic Training (had a half scholarship) but during my senior year of high school decided to go into business.  During high school I took night courses in the athletic training program at Kent State so I was a little better than just an ankle taper.  The way I got into it was that during my freshman year I didn't do anything with the team.  In the late summer during two a days I was moving into my fraternity house and I noticed a friend was sitting in his room with his foot in a waste can filled with ice.  He asked if I knew anyone who was a trainer and I told him I was.  He said I should talk to coach Kehres (then O Coordinator) to see if he would hire me, because the student trainers they had in his words were "worthless" (and they really were).  So I traded in my work study from the library to the training room.  Mid way through the season they asked me to be head trainer and I said I would with a couple of conditions.  I wanted some business experience so I wanted to control the budget for supplies etc as well as manage and recruit other trainers.  They agreed.  What was great was that my work study was for about $500-$600 per year but as a trainer I put in about 1000 hours and @$3.00 (Maybe a little more) per hour it was a huge financial windfall and I loved the work.  It really was a good training ground (no pun intended) for my business career having that type of responsibility when I was only 19-20 years old.  At the time we had real safety issues.  We didn't have an ambulance at games which I made happen.  Also after my senior year I went to the President of the college and had ameeting where I told them that I thought they had a real potential liability issue for the school.  The way I explained it was that as good as I was at what I did I was not a professional and that if there was a serious life threatening situation it doesn't matter how well I or the other trainers handled it if their wasn't a pro around and someone was seriously injured or died the school might be liable for a big damages award.  I think this convinced the powers that be to start the major in athletic training within the next year or two.  This is something that LK had wanted for a while (at least a prfessional trainer on staff and I know he was happy he got that and gives me at least some of the credit).

Great story!  Thanks for sharing.  In '68 I tore my ankle up.  Coach looked at it, said "That ankle looks really bad; better put some tape on it."  End of therapy. 
12-0 = 13

Raider 68

Going back and looking at the national stats, Wabash was probably the best defense that Mount will have faced. If and it remains an "If" the Raider D can control QB McSweeney. the Raider O can score on Wesley. They have given up 28 pts pr game in the playoffs thus far. I remember what HScoach always says, it usually comes down to the O and D line play in big games, We'll see how much Mount QB play will impact the game as well! :)
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wesleydad

Raider68, I would agree that the Raider O will score if they can throw the ball with some success.  If they are forced to rely on the run then I don't think they get to 28.  Of course that goes out the window if Wesley turns the ball over.  Even though some of the scores have been on running plays against Wesley in the playoffs, most have been set up by passes or multiple completions moving down the field.  Controlling McSweeney is the big "if" since he has been the focus of the last 2 teams and they have not been able to do it.  Mount will likely be the best defense that Wesley has faced and almost certainly the best coaching staff, so it will be a chess match between them and Coach Knapp to see who comes up with the better plan.  That is what will make this game so interesting in my opinion.  Can the Wesley coaches match the Mount coaches this time?  I already know what Skunks will say!!! :)

skunks_sidekick

Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2011, 10:35:51 AM
Raider68, I would agree that the Raider O will score if they can throw the ball with some success.  If they are forced to rely on the run then I don't think they get to 28.  Of course that goes out the window if Wesley turns the ball over.  Even though some of the scores have been on running plays against Wesley in the playoffs, most have been set up by passes or multiple completions moving down the field.  Controlling McSweeney is the big "if" since he has been the focus of the last 2 teams and they have not been able to do it.  Mount will likely be the best defense that Wesley has faced and almost certainly the best coaching staff, so it will be a chess match between them and Coach Knapp to see who comes up with the better plan.  That is what will make this game so interesting in my opinion.  Can the Wesley coaches match the Mount coaches this time?  I already know what Skunks will say!!! :)

Until they prove they can do it against one of the purple powers...the answer is NO!   ;D

I am still working to see if I can get another "Friday night hall pass" for this coming Friday.  Of course, Skunk, Jr. & I will definintely be at our usual margarita breakfast spot on Saturday.   ;)

Raider 68

Quote from: wesleydad on December 06, 2011, 10:35:51 AM
Raider68, I would agree that the Raider O will score if they can throw the ball with some success.  If they are forced to rely on the run then I don't think they get to 28.  Of course that goes out the window if Wesley turns the ball over.  Even though some of the scores have been on running plays against Wesley in the playoffs, most have been set up by passes or multiple completions moving down the field.  Controlling McSweeney is the big "if" since he has been the focus of the last 2 teams and they have not been able to do it.  Mount will likely be the best defense that Wesley has faced and almost certainly the best coaching staff, so it will be a chess match between them and Coach Knapp to see who comes up with the better plan.  That is what will make this game so interesting in my opinion.  Can the Wesley coaches match the Mount coaches this time?  I already know what Skunks will say!!! :)

wesleydad,

Agree!
13 time Division III National Champions

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

If Piloto and Seaman are unable to play, I see a tight game with LK calling plays very conservatively.

Let the Defense be the focus, try to keep Wesley to 10 or under points and score as much as you can with the three-headed monster at RB.  Will probably see some more Zone-Read plays with Burke at QB.

I doubt Mount will score 28 if Burke is playing, but you don't need to if the Defense comes up big.  Goal is to win games and get to the Stagg, not to blow opponents out.
National Champions - 13: 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015, 2017

Raider 68

13 time Division III National Champions

rscl70

I think Pilato will start the game.  Watching him on the sidelines last Sat. he appeared to be ready to return, but LK wisely kept him out.  The question becomes can he finish.  One big hit could put him on the sideline again.

According to the stats Burke is 7 of 11 passing this season.  I'm told in the JV games he threw the ball very well.  Now, JV is not the national semi-finals I know, but I think there's a lot more to this young man than we have seen, and that that is the way LK wants it.  If this game gets put on Burke's shoulders we may see a great coming out party.
12-0 = 13

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: rscl70 on December 06, 2011, 09:28:40 AM
Great story!  Thanks for sharing.  In '68 I tore my ankle up.  Coach looked at it, said "That ankle looks really bad; better put some tape on it."  End of therapy. 

Tape!!!  Wow, it amazing how the treatment of ankles had improved between the time I played and you played.  All they ever told us was to do was rub dirt on it.  ;)  ;D
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

joelmama

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Quote from: rscl70 on December 06, 2011, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: joelmama on December 06, 2011, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: rscl70 on December 05, 2011, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: joelmama on December 05, 2011, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 05, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Got a hip pointer in college playing on an intramural flag football team.  Watch the comments, Gentlemen.  ;) Couldn't believe how painful it was. If you have never had one, it is hard to imagine.  Hopefully, he is fine by the weekend.
Did the same playing the same game in college.  My experience though comes from being the last "non-professional" trainer at MUC before they adopted the major in athletic training.  I like to think that having an accounting major undergraduate as the head trainer led them to understanding why they needed pros doing that job.   ;D

How did you get the job?  Was there an ankle taping contest?
Almost.  I was torn between getting a major in Athletic training or Business.  I was going to go to Michigan State for athletic Training (had a half scholarship) but during my senior year of high school decided to go into business.  During high school I took night courses in the athletic training program at Kent State so I was a little better than just an ankle taper.  The way I got into it was that during my freshman year I didn't do anything with the team.  In the late summer during two a days I was moving into my fraternity house and I noticed a friend was sitting in his room with his foot in a waste can filled with ice.  He asked if I knew anyone who was a trainer and I told him I was.  He said I should talk to coach Kehres (then O Coordinator) to see if he would hire me, because the student trainers they had in his words were "worthless" (and they really were).  So I traded in my work study from the library to the training room.  Mid way through the season they asked me to be head trainer and I said I would with a couple of conditions.  I wanted some business experience so I wanted to control the budget for supplies etc as well as manage and recruit other trainers.  They agreed.  What was great was that my work study was for about $500-$600 per year but as a trainer I put in about 1000 hours and @$3.00 (Maybe a little more) per hour it was a huge financial windfall and I loved the work.  It really was a good training ground (no pun intended) for my business career having that type of responsibility when I was only 19-20 years old.  At the time we had real safety issues.  We didn't have an ambulance at games which I made happen.  Also after my senior year I went to the President of the college and had ameeting where I told them that I thought they had a real potential liability issue for the school.  The way I explained it was that as good as I was at what I did I was not a professional and that if there was a serious life threatening situation it doesn't matter how well I or the other trainers handled it if their wasn't a pro around and someone was seriously injured or died the school might be liable for a big damages award.  I think this convinced the powers that be to start the major in athletic training within the next year or two.  This is something that LK had wanted for a while (at least a prfessional trainer on staff and I know he was happy he got that and gives me at least some of the credit).

Great story!  Thanks for sharing.  In '68 I tore my ankle up.  Coach looked at it, said "That ankle looks really bad; better put some tape on it."  End of therapy.
The first year I was a trainer at MUC was 1979 and the last was 1981.  During that time we had our first athlete to undergo micro-surgery on knees.  Early on if you tore soft tissue you got opened up and were in a cast for 6 weeks before rehabbing.  Afterwards it was a week off the leg and then start rehab and you would be back in 4-6 weeks.  Now it is possible with certain injuries to miss a week or two but 4-6 is still the norm for a lot of injuires that are not ACL's.

formerd3db

joelmamma and rscl70:
Yes, back in those days it was..."whirlpool, tape it up and back in the game". ;D  Anyway, indeed great story and thanks for sharing.  It brought back many memories.  Also, you are right - in as much as our student-athletes today want instant healing and a quick return, 4-6 weeks is the usual period.  Whiloe that varies among individuals, it is difficult to predict and not possible to provide them (and their parents ::) ;)) with specific time frames, even though they expect that.

On another topic, I have a question for you guys and all your other Mount colleagues, including Raider68, who I sat with at last weekend's playoff game.  I see where the official attendance is listed as about 2370.  I am surprised and actually not sure how that could be as the entire home/main grandstand was jammed packed on the Mount Union side, the visitors/press box side was nearly full and there were people seated in the endzone seats including the marching band as well as lined up standing along the iron fencing at the other endzone.  While you all know Mounts stadium better than I, I thought there were at least double and/or more than what was listed.  Maybe I'm dreaming! :o ::) ;)  What do you think/what are your estimates?  (Mind you please, that I am not insinuating any intentional misleading by anyone in Mounts sports department staff (SID, etc.) for attendance, rather it just looked to me like there were many, many more people than listed.  I know that somehow happened at one of Hope's games this year when only 1,400 were listed and I know there were more than that there; we averaged in the mid-3,000's for all the other home games.  Anyway, I was just curious.

Have a great time at the playoff game Saturday.  With Wesley coming in, I suspect it will be another great game.

formerd3db 
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice