FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[wesleydad]

hey mount guys, sorry i cant make it this weekend, you know i would love to make the trip but i have a prior commitment that would have probably stopped me from even coming if wesley was playing.

my 2 cents on the game.  earlier in the year i thought that umhb might have been the best team in the country, not so now.  bailey is a playmaker and mount will have to contain him.  the running game is ok, dangerous if allowed to get outside, but can be contained.  they pass more than they have in the past and bailey is making better decisions.  wesley did not take away the short passes last week which i did not understand because i saw no evidence that they could go over top on the d backs for wesley.  this allowed bailey to avoid pressure be dumping it off.  wesley held them to 32 both times and could have held them to less than that had they made plays in either game.  so i think umhb does not get to 30.  umhb can be scored on.  they can be beat long, also not sure why wesley did not throw that more often last week.  wesley was able to run the ball this week and sot did not have a good game at qb.  i think that burke being mobile will cause umhb trouble if he can extend plays which i saw that he could do this week.  the d line is pretty solid and the LB's are good.  in the end i do not know if umhb can keep mount under 30, wesley had 25 in game 1 and 20 with 3 missed ops in game 2.  mount doesnt usually miss those ops so i think mount is going to win.  the game should be a good one, but if umhb plays like they did for most of the first half they could be in trouble.  enjoy the game and i hope to see some of you at the stagg if mount makes it of if you just decide to make the trip anyway.

[HScoach]

Don't believe the rosters.   I can still remember Bridgewater's MLB that was listed at something like 6', 190 lbs.   When in reality he was a 6'3", 230 lb beast.   Lots of crazy games get played with roster heights & weights.   Some schools sandbag, some exaggerate to make it easier to garner post season awards, some simply list their freshman ht/wt all 4 years.

While I don't doubt that happens in a lot of cases..... in the comparison listed for  this game? I don't think Mount has played obvious games with their height/weights -and I have recorded a few UMHB games- from what I saw-I don't think they have played any of those games either-I admit it's harder to tell on video than it is looking/talking to the players after the game, but I  didnt see any noticeable discrepancies in UMHB line size vs roster info either. I will say they are bigger on the line than some of the teams mount has seen in some  previous games-not that it means much....  Hopkins had some big lineman but by the second quarter they were "hands on hips/winded" . There's no category in the programs for condtioning

Jermaine Taylor was listed at 5-10, 210 by Bridgewater and 5-10, 215 by the Green Bay Packers.

Maybe it was the OLB?  Don't remember all that well, but I can remember standing along the field thinking the roster was off by a lot.  Maybe I'm getting my Stagg opponents mixed up?  Lord knows it's hard to keep all 15 of them straight in my head.

[HURFMUC]

hscoach--- since you have alot of free time can you please pick up are tickets

[HScoach]

Sure.   I'll pick up the tickets.  You pick up the tab Friday night.

[HURFMUC]

I can do that

[mr_mom]

^ to the best of my knowledge, Borchert never tried.  Maybe one of the really old guys knows differently

This old guy remembers him getting picked up by the Edmonton Eskimos (I know ... CFL, not NFL) but I don't remember him putting up any stats.

[Desertraider]

Wanted to be first to congratulate LK on the regional COY - 17th time. Very impressive.

http://www.cantonrep.com/newsnow/x1922372870/Mount-Unions-Kehres-is-regional-coach-of-the-year

Is that Kmic in the background?

[mr_mom]

The spreads are up for the OAC Playoff Pick-Em, Round 4.

[Editorial erased]

Good luck, everyone!

[umhb2001]

^ to the best of my knowledge, Borchert never tried.  Maybe one of the really old guys knows differently

As much as I like the potential guys listed, I don't think any of them possess the freakish physical talent that Garcon & Shorts, and even Kyle Miller, possess.     They're great D3 players, but none of them are bigger, faster or stronger than the rest of D3 to really stand out like Pierre & Cecil did. 


In regards to injuries, I think Tate and TE Stewart are both out.  As well as Denton, Moore, Burke, Skilliter, Driskill, Dieusuel, Fetchko, Scott, etc.   All didn't play the 4th quarter against Widener due to serious injuries.

Thanks for the information.....however, let's keep this between us.  I've heard that some MHB folks look at the OAC board.

Of course we do, but not the ones who "matter". They have more important things to do than worry about who will or won't play. Besides, the tape footage shows that anyways.

[umhb2001]

hey mount guys, sorry i cant make it this weekend, you know i would love to make the trip but i have a prior commitment that would have probably stopped me from even coming if wesley was playing.

my 2 cents on the game.  earlier in the year i thought that umhb might have been the best team in the country, not so now.  bailey is a playmaker and mount will have to contain him.  the running game is ok, dangerous if allowed to get outside, but can be contained.  they pass more than they have in the past and bailey is making better decisions.  wesley did not take away the short passes last week which i did not understand because i saw no evidence that they could go over top on the d backs for wesley.  this allowed bailey to avoid pressure be dumping it off.  wesley held them to 32 both times and could have held them to less than that had they made plays in either game.  so i think umhb does not get to 30.  umhb can be scored on.  they can be beat long, also not sure why wesley did not throw that more often last week.  wesley was able to run the ball this week and sot did not have a good game at qb.  i think that burke being mobile will cause umhb trouble if he can extend plays which i saw that he could do this week.  the d line is pretty solid and the LB's are good.  in the end i do not know if umhb can keep mount under 30, wesley had 25 in game 1 and 20 with 3 missed ops in game 2.  mount doesnt usually miss those ops so i think mount is going to win.  the game should be a good one, but if umhb plays like they did for most of the first half they could be in trouble.  enjoy the game and i hope to see some of you at the stagg if mount makes it of if you just decide to make the trip anyway.

We stopped a lot of your "chances". Give credit to where credit is due and stop saying you gave it away. Our D stopped your red zone attempts. Bailey and Hudson ran all over the place. I'm not trying to be ugly. I'm sorry it sounds that way. I just want to give credit where credit is due. Y'all stopped our game in the first half and we made adjustments. We've faced very good mobile QB's this year and last. We held y'all and other teams below your rushing average. I know Mount is formidable, but we aren't where we are because we lucked in to somebody's vote.

[Blutarsky]

^ to the best of my knowledge, Borchert never tried.  Maybe one of the really old guys knows differently

As much as I like the potential guys listed, I don't think any of them possess the freakish physical talent that Garcon & Shorts, and even Kyle Miller, possess.     They're great D3 players, but none of them are bigger, faster or stronger than the rest of D3 to really stand out like Pierre & Cecil did. 


In regards to injuries, I think Tate and TE Stewart are both out.  As well as Denton, Moore, Burke, Skilliter, Driskill, Dieusuel, Fetchko, Scott, etc.   All didn't play the 4th quarter against Widener due to serious injuries.

Thanks for the information.....however, let's keep this between us.  I've heard that some MHB folks look at the OAC board.

Of course we do, but not the ones who "matter". They have more important things to do than worry about who will or won't play. Besides, the tape footage shows that anyways.

[wesleydad]

hey mount guys, sorry i cant make it this weekend, you know i would love to make the trip but i have a prior commitment that would have probably stopped me from even coming if wesley was playing.

my 2 cents on the game.  earlier in the year i thought that umhb might have been the best team in the country, not so now.  bailey is a playmaker and mount will have to contain him.  the running game is ok, dangerous if allowed to get outside, but can be contained.  they pass more than they have in the past and bailey is making better decisions.  wesley did not take away the short passes last week which i did not understand because i saw no evidence that they could go over top on the d backs for wesley.  this allowed bailey to avoid pressure be dumping it off.  wesley held them to 32 both times and could have held them to less than that had they made plays in either game.  so i think umhb does not get to 30.  umhb can be scored on.  they can be beat long, also not sure why wesley did not throw that more often last week.  wesley was able to run the ball this week and sot did not have a good game at qb.  i think that burke being mobile will cause umhb trouble if he can extend plays which i saw that he could do this week.  the d line is pretty solid and the LB's are good.  in the end i do not know if umhb can keep mount under 30, wesley had 25 in game 1 and 20 with 3 missed ops in game 2.  mount doesnt usually miss those ops so i think mount is going to win.  the game should be a good one, but if umhb plays like they did for most of the first half they could be in trouble.  enjoy the game and i hope to see some of you at the stagg if mount makes it of if you just decide to make the trip anyway.

We stopped a lot of your "chances". Give credit to where credit is due and stop saying you gave it away. Our D stopped your red zone attempts. Bailey and Hudson ran all over the place. I'm not trying to be ugly. I'm sorry it sounds that way. I just want to give credit where credit is due. Y'all stopped our game in the first half and we made adjustments. We've faced very good mobile QB's this year and last. We held y'all and other teams below your rushing average. I know Mount is formidable, but we aren't where we are because we lucked in to somebody's vote.

umhb, it is a matter of perspective.  at no point did i suggest that umhb did not do the job.  i gave credit to umhb on the asc board.  i stated why i thought wesley lost on the acfc board.  i stated what i thought could have happened had wesley made the plays that i thought they could make.  on this board I am looking at it from how could wesley have won and what i think mount needs to do that wesley did not do to win.  you look at it from the umhb point of view.  dont be so sensitive when someone doesnt taught your team as being great.  i dont care if you disagree with what i post, it happens all the time.i dont take it personal unless it is personal.  if you disagree with what i think is going to happen feel free to state why you think umhb will win.  I am sure that all would be glad to read it.

[emma17]

The spreads are up for the OAC Playoff Pick-Em, Round 4.

[Editorial erased]

Good luck, everyone!

Great job on the Pickem spreads. Very interesting indeed.

[PurpleSuit]

Driskill not a finalist for the Gagliardi, I guess being the D3 Academic All-American Award winner, National Football Foundation Scholar Athlete Award recipient and the best player on the best team is not enough.  Sucks for Driskill, obvious anti-Mount bias by the voters.

[Retired Old Rat]

Purplesuit, that is an ignorant statement and degrades the accomplishments of the four young men named as finalists.  If you were to look at the selection committee you would see that it is built to avoid any bias.  Mount Union has won 5 of the 19 Gagliardi awards.  With this being the 20th, a Mount player will have won 25% of the awards.  If anything, that would indicate a pro-Mount bias by the voters.

Mr. Driskol and Mount fans should all be extremely proud that he was nominated and named one of 10 finalists.  That is an exceptional recognition of his accomplishments.

I have my biases and don't always agree with the selection committee.  But I respect their decisions.