FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Ric]

Well if Mount Union won't move up from DIII then I guess Ohio State will have to move down. Would Salem, VA still get the Stagg Bowl?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21912935/jim-delany-big-ten-would-choose-another-option-if-forced-to-pay-players

[Ric]

First line of this story...

"Ohio State versus Mount Union in a regular-season football game? Wisconsin against Wisconsin-Whitewater in a regular-season basketball game?"

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130318/big-ten-jim-delany-ncaa-obannon/

[Mr. Ypsi]

It makes for fun comments (I joked on a board "ya suppose the MIAA would take in Michigan and Michigan State?"), but Delaney is just blowin' smoke out his nether-region.  Based on infrastructure investment alone, there is ZERO chance of such a move.  Can you imagine the Big House (or the Horseshoe) going from 100,000+ to 5,000?

[Ric]

Well of course I know its not going to happen. Just thought others might find it fun to read.

[HScoach]

Since it's the middle of the off season and I have no life, I went back and checked some statistics to dispel something that has annoyed me since the Stagg Bowl.  All the discussion, articles and the game announcers talking over and over again about how UST completely shutdown the Mount offense and held them to a fraction of their normal output and to their lowest point total of the season.  But there was very little, if any, acknowledgement of the job the Mount defense did on UST.

Heading into the Stagg, Mount was averaging 54.57 pts/game and scored 28, which is 26.57 pts under their average.  UST came in averaging 36.36 and scored 10, which is 26.36 under their average.   Even.

As a percentage, Mount score 51.3% of their average whereas UST could muster only 27.5% of their average.   Advantage Mount D.

And on the subject on Mount being held to their lowest point total, their 28 points were only 5 points under the H'Berg game.   Compared to UST's 10 points being 11 under their previous low of 21 versus Concordia Moorhead.   Advantage Mount D.

If comparing defensive numbers, UST averaged 14 points surrendered coming in and gave up double that.   Mount by contrast was surrendering 9 and gave up only 1 point more.  Advantage Mount.

For all the accolades that the UST defense got for playing Mount tough, I think the Mount defense out shined them but got no love.  Just saying.

[Ric]

Since it's the middle of the off season and I have no life, I went back and checked some statistics to dispel something that has annoyed me since the Stagg Bowl.  All the discussion, articles and the game announcers talking over and over again about how UST completely shutdown the Mount offense and held them to a fraction of their normal output and to their lowest point total of the season.  But there was very little, if any, acknowledgement of the job the Mount defense did on UST.

Heading into the Stagg, Mount was averaging 54.57 pts/game and scored 28, which is 26.57 pts under their average.  UST came in averaging 36.36 and scored 10, which is 26.36 under their average.   Even.

As a percentage, Mount score 51.3% of their average whereas UST could muster only 27.5% of their average.   Advantage Mount D.

And on the subject on Mount being held to their lowest point total, their 28 points were only 5 points under the H'Berg game.   Compared to UST's 10 points being 11 under their previous low of 21 versus Concordia Moorhead.   Advantage Mount D.

If comparing defensive numbers, UST averaged 14 points surrendered coming in and gave up double that.   Mount by contrast was surrendering 9 and gave up only 1 point more.  Advantage Mount.

For all the accolades that the UST defense got for playing Mount tough, I think the Mount defense out shined them but got no love.  Just saying.

Good points hscoach. This is why we keep you around.  Well, that and you like to drive.

[HScoach]

In my best Rainman voice: "I'm an excellent driver, excellent driver".

[Raider 68]

Since it's the middle of the off season and I have no life, I went back and checked some statistics to dispel something that has annoyed me since the Stagg Bowl.  All the discussion, articles and the game announcers talking over and over again about how UST completely shutdown the Mount offense and held them to a fraction of their normal output and to their lowest point total of the season.  But there was very little, if any, acknowledgement of the job the Mount defense did on UST.

Heading into the Stagg, Mount was averaging 54.57 pts/game and scored 28, which is 26.57 pts under their average.  UST came in averaging 36.36 and scored 10, which is 26.36 under their average.   Even.

As a percentage, Mount score 51.3% of their average whereas UST could muster only 27.5% of their average.   Advantage Mount D.

And on the subject on Mount being held to their lowest point total, their 28 points were only 5 points under the H'Berg game.   Compared to UST's 10 points being 11 under their previous low of 21 versus Concordia Moorhead.   Advantage Mount D.

If comparing defensive numbers, UST averaged 14 points surrendered coming in and gave up double that.   Mount by contrast was surrendering 9 and gave up only 1 point more.  Advantage Mount.

For all the accolades that the UST defense got for playing Mount tough, I think the Mount defense out shined them but got no love.  Just saying.

Good points hscoach. This is why we keep you around.  Well, that and you like to drive.

HScoach,

Well said! Now what is your take on 2013 in terms of those seasonal stats. Can the Raiders score
at that level with some holes to fill? Will the defense be strong again, with some new faces in the secondary?
Those numbers were exceptional in 2012, but other Raider teams were close, so 2013 could be very strong as well!

[Toph]

Since it's the middle of the off season and I have no life, I went back and checked some statistics to dispel something that has annoyed me since the Stagg Bowl.  All the discussion, articles and the game announcers talking over and over again about how UST completely shutdown the Mount offense and held them to a fraction of their normal output and to their lowest point total of the season.  But there was very little, if any, acknowledgement of the job the Mount defense did on UST.

Heading into the Stagg, Mount was averaging 54.57 pts/game and scored 28, which is 26.57 pts under their average.  UST came in averaging 36.36 and scored 10, which is 26.36 under their average.   Even.

As a percentage, Mount score 51.3% of their average whereas UST could muster only 27.5% of their average.   Advantage Mount D.

And on the subject on Mount being held to their lowest point total, their 28 points were only 5 points under the H'Berg game.   Compared to UST's 10 points being 11 under their previous low of 21 versus Concordia Moorhead.   Advantage Mount D.

If comparing defensive numbers, UST averaged 14 points surrendered coming in and gave up double that.   Mount by contrast was surrendering 9 and gave up only 1 point more.  Advantage Mount.

For all the accolades that the UST defense got for playing Mount tough, I think the Mount defense out shined them but got no love.  Just saying.

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[purpled]

To all Mount fans...I am asking a favor...I have decided to change tv providers and there's one huge downfall...I will lose my dvr copy of the 2012 Stagg Bowl and the UMHB game...does anyone have a copy of both they would like to copy and share or does the bookstore sell copies on either game. And yes, it's a matter of life or death.

[Ric]

To all Mount fans...I am asking a favor...I have decided to change tv providers and there's one huge downfall...I will lose my dvr copy of the 2012 Stagg Bowl and the UMHB game...does anyone have a copy of both they would like to copy and share or does the bookstore sell copies on either game. And yes, it's a matter of life or death.

I have a copy of both on my dvr. I've been asked for a copy but I don't have anything to make a copy. If you have a way to get that done let me know.

[HScoach]

HScoach,

Well said! Now what is your take on 2013 in terms of those seasonal stats. Can the Raiders score
at that level with some holes to fill? Will the defense be strong again, with some new faces in the secondary?
Those numbers were exceptional in 2012, but other Raider teams were close, so 2013 could be very strong as well!

As I look toward 2013, here's what I see in my crystal ball:   As the O-line goes, so goes the '13 Raiders.


Strengths, listed in order of importance and/or confidence level:

QB:   We know that we have a great young QB returning that should only get better, which should be a scary thought for the opponents as he was already darn good.   Burke has a chance to be one of the greats and join Ballard, Borchert and Micheli on the Mount Rushmore of Mount QB's.

DEFENSIVE LINE:    The D-line will should be a HUGE advantage for a young secondary as they enter the season with only Frank Orteca graduating.   Matt Fetcko (2x - 1st Team All-OAC) leads the groups at DT with starters Nyejel Thomas and Ted Rosalva at DE also returning.    Plus DE Tom Lally returns who has star written all over him after playing so well as a freshman.  Reminds me very much of Scott Campbell.   D-line is going to be loaded.

RUNNING BACK:  The RB position will be GREATLY improved with Germany Woods running it in lieu of Lattimore.   I like what Skilliter brought to the '12 offense in terms of his quickness and toughness, but he's a scat back trying to be a TB.   Woods is a difference maker at TB that you can pound the ball with.   I'm really excited to see him in this offense because any TB good enough to make Cartel Brooks a reserve is a stud.   Mason Minnich, and hopefully a 100% healthy Prendergast, will provide a nice change of pace to the bruising Woods.

LINEBACKER:   I realize we lose Dieuseul who made play after play, but sophomore-to-be Hank Spencer was already a better LB than Diesueul by the end of the season.   He didn't have the bulk and power to bull rush the QB that Charles had, but he was much better in coverage and scraping to the edges to stop the off tackle and sweeps/options to the outside.   I'm not worried about finding another LB to play beside Spencer.   

TE:   Lane Clark at 6'-5', 230 lbs looks like another Kyle Miller which should greatly improve the running game in short yardage situations and be a big target in the middle of the field.   Losing Shannon Stewart will take away some flexibility and explosiveness from the passing game from the TE position, but he was really another WR, not a TE anyway.   He just lined up at TE. 


Areas of concern, in order of importance or severity:

OFFENSIVE LINE: the only concern I truly have about Mount in '13 is the O-line with all 5 starters graduating.   Antonio Tate at LT is going to be the hardest to replace.  He was a very good tackle that many people overlooked because of his consistency.   Wasn't a big road grader like Jason Gerber, but he was a good one.   The experiment of moving D-linemen over is likely to continue with junior-to-be DT Pat Mahoney moving to center.   Finding 7 or 8 legitimate linemen is the key to the '13 season in my opinion.   They don't need to be All-Americans, just solid and tough SOB's.   

WIDE RECEIVER:    individually, losing Junior Collins will be the biggest hole to fill as I'm not sure there's a returning WR on the roster that has the open field ability to stretch the defense like Junior did.  I'm comfortable in Luke Meacham, Jack Nicholls, Brian Gainer and Sherman Wilkenson being able to replace Chris Denton and Julius Moore, but it's finding The Guy to fill #1 receiver position that is the question.    Getting the first shot should be former QB Roman Namdar, but in his first year at receiver that's a real leap of faith to expect him to replace Collins.    As an overall receiving corps, I'm not worried '13.   It's only finding someone that can really be the #1 target.    Luckily for Mount given the depth they have elsewhere, LK and Burke have 12 +/- weeks to figure it out.

DEFENSIVE BACK:   Some folks may think I'm crazy for listing the secondary so low on the list of concerns with all 5 starters graduating, but I'm very confident in the 2nd unit being able to step up.   Nick Driskill leaves as one of the greatest DB's in school history and will be a huge loss, but freshman Alex Kocheff played more and more as the season went along and was a huge part of the defense in the playoffs.   Expecting him to be exactly replace Driskill is unrealistic, but I think he's going to surprise a lot of people with how good he really is.   The OAC teams that are celebrating the Driskill graduation should temper their partying a bit.   Isaiah Scott was a very good, multi-year starter at corner but sophomore-to-be Tre Jones should fill that role pretty easily.   Jones might run as well as any Mount DB since Chris Kern.   He has to solidify his recognition and coverage skills, but he's supremely athletic and a year of experience should help him immensely.   Isaiah Chambers, Joshua Scott and Mike Maier all got significant playing time and should replace Shawn Riley, Alex Nicholls and Blair Skilliter without too much drop off, if any.   I except a few mental breakdowns from this group early in the season simply due to inexperience, but the physical talent is there to be very good in the secondary by season's end.

[HScoach]

Toph:   Thanks for the help.   Now i have something to do this weekend instead of re-watching the MHB game for the 37th time.........

[purpled]

To all Mount fans...I am asking a favor...I have decided to change tv providers and there's one huge downfall...I will lose my dvr copy of the 2012 Stagg Bowl and the UMHB game...does anyone have a copy of both they would like to copy and share or does the bookstore sell copies on either game. And yes, it's a matter of life or death.

I have a copy of both on my dvr. I've been asked for a copy but I don't have anything to make a copy. If you have a way to get that done let me know.

Ric, I do not have the equipment to do that, I have a friend in Norfolk who "thinks" he recorded both onto dvd's...waiting for an answer.

[reality check]

I know I'm not nearly as old as the really old guys here but I swear I remember there used to be a history link somewhere on the OAC website that actually stated that although Ohio State stopped participating as a member of the OAC, the fact was that they never "officially" withdrew from the conference. 

Does anyone else remember a story that went like that?  Given the statements in the last week of Delaney, I think that fact book-keeping factoid was worth mentioning.  The Buckeyes might not even need to officially reapply if they'd like to see how they stack up against Mount Union and the rest.