FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[reality check]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/pierre-garcon-donated-50-000-worth-uniforms-dc-154157202.html

Did this get posted yet?

[SaintsFAN]

Are there any Otterbein posters out there with a snapshot of what the team will look like this year? I am relatively unfamiliar with the OAC outside of Mount Union, so any help would be appreciated. Looking forward to the first game of the year!

You could always register for Kickoff 2013 and read the expert analysis for yourself on OTT and the other 243 teams in Division III.  The writers that put that together do a great job of getting information out about each team.  The guy that writes for the SCIAC schools is especially good.  He's well-spoken, informed and incredibly good looking.  Modest too.

Also, it's cute how Berg gets two fans and all of the sudden they want to act like they know a thing or two about d3boards and the posters.  It's always been a Mount-dominated board.  I can count more "regulars" that have disappeared from the Mount bandwagon than I can count posters for all other schools combined over the years. Been here since 99.  Has any non-Raider been here that long?  I'm actually curious about that one.

Wow! Look at you... Aren't you special!

Not about being special but thanks for the recognition.  You've been here less than a year but graduated from the Berg 15 years ago.  Where were you in those lean years? 

Also, Go Chaminade.

They play flag football at Chaminade -- the boys from there also like playing patty-cake.

[Desertraider]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/pierre-garcon-donated-50-000-worth-uniforms-dc-154157202.html

Did this get posted yet?

Ya know as soon as I say that nothing seems beyond your reach....it turns out the video I posted of PG delivering the goods was/is. Oh well. 

[ONUFB77]

http://www.cleveland.com/hssports/blog/index.ssf/2013/08/unveiling_top_10_players_in_pd.html#incart_river#incart_special-report

The Plain Dealer released the top 50 high school football players in the last 50 years in Northeast Ohio (PD coverage area), a few notables, the first being London Fletcher, of course. 

Chuck Moore made honorable mention, I would have ranked him in the top 50.  I don't have the time to look up his stats in high school, but he was flat out dominant with Mogadore.

How is Charles Woodson not on this list?

[Dr. Acula]

It's only players in the PD coverage area.

[reality check]

They play flag football at Chaminade -- the boys from there also like playing patty-cake.

As opposed to your school? 

You can't spell "BADMINTON" without B-A-D-I-N.

[pradierguy]

Tampa Bay Bucs started making their cuts today. Chris Denton was NOT among them, but did include former Browns WR Carlton Mitchell. Still think he is a long shot to make it, but WR vets being let go before might be a good sign... http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-1/Bucs-Add-TE-Shanahan-Begin-Roster-Reduction/c0f2b2f0-dd01-41ff-b78c-8b3e9eadb830

[Dr. Acula]

If some of you are procrastinators like me, now is your time....Kickoff comes out tomorrow. 

I never bought it up until a year or two ago and it's definitely worth $11.  It's worth $11 just to support this site.  It's definitely worth $11 to support this site AND read the OAC previews and see the full ranking of all of D3.  And it's DEFINITELY worth $11 for those things plus all the feature stories.  There were some really interesting reads in there. 

Sorry for the advertisement, but it's true.   

[bleedpurple]

Had to post a video of a professional athlete doing GOOD - instead of the crap the national media (yes ESPN that is directed at you) focuses on. Would like to see more of these getting coverage.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/8/22/4646620/hogs-haven-exclusive-a-day-in-the-life-of-pierre-garcon-video

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/redskins-pierre-garcon-donates-football-uniforms-to-roosevelt-jefferson-and-springbrook/2013/08/20/79f3c2dc-09af-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

Nice to see Pierre understands that being a good man - is just as important (if not more) as being a good athlete.

On the Cecil front (and I guess still on the Pierre front as well):
http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/2013/08/14/fantasy-feud-2013-pierre-garcon-vs-cecil-shorts/

Very interesting links- thanks for sharing.
The rantsports fantasy article is really cool- 2 former Mt receivers being compared for Fantasy points- IMO that's when a player knows he's made it.
I understand Mt fans might be reluctant to comment on the Pierre vs Cecil comparison, but for those who aren't I'm interested in your opinions. Limiting the discussion to Fantasy points is a good way to get around direct comparisons of the two.
Having seen both of them play vs UWW I'd have to say I feared Pierre more, but Shorts was so versatile.  Is it fair to say Pierre was a bigger "big play" threat while Cecil was a constant unstoppable? (I recall his crisp route running in the 2009 Stagg- couldn't be stopped).

The other difference from a UW-W perspective is that Cecil was well respected as a good guy.

Is that because Pierre beat UWW more often than not?  Or was it his "Mount Union arrogance" that rubbed UWW the wrong way?  I guess you could argue that Cecil was a better player, but to say that Pierre is not a good guy is laughable.

It certainly wasn't about Pierre beating UW-W. UW-W beat him in the last game of his collegiate career and he had all of 4 catches for 30 yards. That game didn't change the team opinion of him. Nate Kmic on the other hand scored 3 TD's and is very highly respected in these circles as is Cecil. In fact, as are almost all of the Purple Raiders and certainly LK.  The "Mount Union" arrogance I refer to is almost exclusively among the fans on this board and does not seem to seep into the program itself. I think when Pierre was in college, he was one of those guys who went beyond competing and into taunting against his opponents. I know he flapped his jaw a lot.  Maybe it was a UW-W thing. I have no doubt the defensive guys made it clear he didn't intimidate them. Maybe he wasn't used to that.

[pradierguy]

It certainly wasn't about Pierre beating UW-W. UW-W beat him in the last game of his collegiate career and he had all of 4 catches for 30 yards. That game didn't change the team opinion of him. Nate Kmic on the other hand scored 3 TD's and is very highly respected in these circles as is Cecil. In fact, as are almost all of the Purple Raiders and certainly LK.  The "Mount Union" arrogance I refer to is almost exclusively among the fans on this board and does not seem to seep into the program itself. I think when Pierre was in college, he was one of those guys who went beyond competing and into taunting against his opponents. I know he flapped his jaw a lot.  Maybe it was a UW-W thing. I have no doubt the defensive guys made it clear he didn't intimidate them. Maybe he wasn't used to that.

Have you seen a single game of Pierre's in the NFL? He plays the exact same way, but it isn't taunting. He is ridiculously passionate and feels like he has something to prove every single play. Undoubtedly one of the reasons he is such a good blocker.

Highly doubt UWW's intimidation levels had anything to with how he played/acted.

[Jacket_Backer]

Had to post a video of a professional athlete doing GOOD - instead of the crap the national media (yes ESPN that is directed at you) focuses on. Would like to see more of these getting coverage.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/8/22/4646620/hogs-haven-exclusive-a-day-in-the-life-of-pierre-garcon-video

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/redskins-pierre-garcon-donates-football-uniforms-to-roosevelt-jefferson-and-springbrook/2013/08/20/79f3c2dc-09af-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

Nice to see Pierre understands that being a good man - is just as important (if not more) as being a good athlete.

On the Cecil front (and I guess still on the Pierre front as well):
http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/2013/08/14/fantasy-feud-2013-pierre-garcon-vs-cecil-shorts/

Very interesting links- thanks for sharing.
The rantsports fantasy article is really cool- 2 former Mt receivers being compared for Fantasy points- IMO that's when a player knows he's made it.
I understand Mt fans might be reluctant to comment on the Pierre vs Cecil comparison, but for those who aren't I'm interested in your opinions. Limiting the discussion to Fantasy points is a good way to get around direct comparisons of the two.
Having seen both of them play vs UWW I'd have to say I feared Pierre more, but Shorts was so versatile.  Is it fair to say Pierre was a bigger "big play" threat while Cecil was a constant unstoppable? (I recall his crisp route running in the 2009 Stagg- couldn't be stopped).

The other difference from a UW-W perspective is that Cecil was well respected as a good guy.

Is that because Pierre beat UWW more often than not?  Or was it his "Mount Union arrogance" that rubbed UWW the wrong way?  I guess you could argue that Cecil was a better player, but to say that Pierre is not a good guy is laughable.

It certainly wasn't about Pierre beating UW-W. UW-W beat him in the last game of his collegiate career and he had all of 4 catches for 30 yards. That game didn't change the team opinion of him. Nate Kmic on the other hand scored 3 TD's and is very highly respected in these circles as is Cecil. In fact, as are almost all of the Purple Raiders and certainly LK.  The "Mount Union" arrogance I refer to is almost exclusively among the fans on this board and does not seem to seep into the program itself. I think when Pierre was in college, he was one of those guys who went beyond competing and into taunting against his opponents. I know he flapped his jaw a lot.  Maybe it was a UW-W thing. I have no doubt the defensive guys made it clear he didn't intimidate them. Maybe he wasn't used to that.

Could not agree more.  The Mount Union arrogance I see that comes from many of the posters here is unbelievable.  They are the best (probably ever) and that's great, but come on.  Every single game is not just a given for Mount.  I'm not sure if/when many of you played, but I'm guessing (correct me if I'm wrong) it was before this reign of dominance even began.  The other place that I see the most arrogance in the Mount program is the "players" that never saw a down, but were simply on the team.

Every Mount Union alum that I have met in recent years that got significant playing time is nothing but respectful to (most of) the rest of the OAC.  They don't seem to think that Mount can just show up and win every game, as many of the posters here seem to think.  They realize that many of their wins were hard fought and they very well could have lost, but the thing is they didn't and that is why they are so great.  Especially in the case of BW I have never once heard a player say that BW wasn't one of the hardest hitting teams and one of the most difficult games of the year, including playoffs.  They know the emotion that goes into every game and they know the preparation.  Most on this board simply do not.

As a side note: Heidelberg is going to have a great team this year and excitement should be high! A little good natured ribbing of the Mount posters is needed on here.  If this is a Mount Only board make it a Mount Only board.  Until that happens Go Jackets! Looking forward to a great season of competition!

[Pat Coleman]

I think a lot of the so-called arrogance is really just one or two young people running their mouths for show. Now, unfortunately, those are the people who dominate the board at certain times of year but I definitely encourage fans of other schools to establish their presence and stick it out.

[Raider 68]

Jacket_Backer,

I had the opportunity of being a player when the Raiders were a 500 level team. Winning the
OAC then, was a true goal but  the other OAC teams lead the way then. After the last 20 years,
the Raiders have been the dominant OAC team. That is the fact and the records bear that out.
The program is proud, grateful and successful and arrogance is not part of it. It is unfortunate
that a few people fuel the arrogance fire. I think the OAC is a great conference with several
teams with winning programs. This year is no exception, and I stated before, B-W and Heidlelberg
especially will have a major impact on how the title is decided in the last 3 weeks of the season.

I have great respect for other major programs, i.e. UWW, Mary Hardin Baylor,
Wesley to name a few. This is an exciting time of the year, so let's support our teams
in the best way we can by being proud, grateful and hopeful!

[Pat Coleman]

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[RoyalPurple]

Any of you arrogant sob's coming to the scrimmage Thursday night?