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[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Sorry to interrupt any banter, but over on the E8 boards, a few are discussing "greatest comeback wins" after determining that Alfred's win at Brockport State Saturday night, in AU's 118 years of college football, was just that. Alfred trailed, 28-0, at halftime and after missing a game-winning field goal on the last play of regulation, defeated their hosts, 34-28 in OT.

Someone over there inquired about Mount Union's greatest comeback win. Aside from the crazy win over UMHB in the playoffs last year, Pep can't imagine the Raiders ever had to come from behind to win....at least in the past 20 years.

On Saxon Warriors!

I would say the time Mount Union failed to come back against JCU in 1991 and JCU won 20-20 was probably one of the best games ever.

JCU won 20-20?

Mount Union came back from being down 7-0 against Marietta last week and won 84-14. 

[HSCTiger74]

Sorry to interrupt any banter, but over on the E8 boards, a few are discussing "greatest comeback wins" after determining that Alfred's win at Brockport State Saturday night, in AU's 118 years of college football, was just that. Alfred trailed, 28-0, at halftime and after missing a game-winning field goal on the last play of regulation, defeated their hosts, 34-28 in OT.

Someone over there inquired about Mount Union's greatest comeback win. Aside from the crazy win over UMHB in the playoffs last year, Pep can't imagine the Raiders ever had to come from behind to win....at least in the past 20 years.

On Saxon Warriors!

I would say the time Mount Union failed to come back against JCU in 1991 and JCU won 20-20 was probably one of the best games ever.

JCU won 20-20?

Mount Union came back from being down 7-0 against Marietta last week and won 84-14. 

Maybe it's come to the point that for the JCU folks a tie with Mt. Union IS a win.

[Dr. Acula]

Sorry to interrupt any banter, but over on the E8 boards, a few are discussing "greatest comeback wins" after determining that Alfred's win at Brockport State Saturday night, in AU's 118 years of college football, was just that. Alfred trailed, 28-0, at halftime and after missing a game-winning field goal on the last play of regulation, defeated their hosts, 34-28 in OT.

Someone over there inquired about Mount Union's greatest comeback win. Aside from the crazy win over UMHB in the playoffs last year, Pep can't imagine the Raiders ever had to come from behind to win....at least in the past 20 years.

On Saxon Warriors!

The game at JCU (actually Bedford HS that year) in 2001 was a good comeback. Not really because of the deficit but because that was a REAL chance to lose. JCU went up 30-27 late I'm sure on yet another Arth TD pass. Mount had to put together a clutch final drive including convert a 4th down where the TE deflected the ball up in the air and it hung there for what felt like an hour before he grabbed it again for the 1st down.  They scored as time was winding down and escaped 33-30.  That was a heavyweight fight. Those Arth JCU teams were legit.

[Toph]

Sorry to interrupt any banter, but over on the E8 boards, a few are discussing "greatest comeback wins" after determining that Alfred's win at Brockport State Saturday night, in AU's 118 years of college football, was just that. Alfred trailed, 28-0, at halftime and after missing a game-winning field goal on the last play of regulation, defeated their hosts, 34-28 in OT.

Someone over there inquired about Mount Union's greatest comeback win. Aside from the crazy win over UMHB in the playoffs last year, Pep can't imagine the Raiders ever had to come from behind to win....at least in the past 20 years.

On Saxon Warriors!

I would say the time Mount Union failed to come back against JCU in 1991 and JCU won 20-20 was probably one of the best games ever.

JCU won 20-20?

[Toph]

Sorry to interrupt any banter, but over on the E8 boards, a few are discussing "greatest comeback wins" after determining that Alfred's win at Brockport State Saturday night, in AU's 118 years of college football, was just that. Alfred trailed, 28-0, at halftime and after missing a game-winning field goal on the last play of regulation, defeated their hosts, 34-28 in OT.

Someone over there inquired about Mount Union's greatest comeback win. Aside from the crazy win over UMHB in the playoffs last year, Pep can't imagine the Raiders ever had to come from behind to win....at least in the past 20 years.

On Saxon Warriors!

The game at JCU (actually Bedford HS that year) in 2001 was a good comeback. Not really because of the deficit but because that was a REAL chance to lose. JCU went up 30-27 late I'm sure on yet another Arth TD pass. Mount had to put together a clutch final drive including convert a 4th down where the TE deflected the ball up in the air and it hung there for what felt like an hour before he grabbed it again for the 1st down.  They scored as time was winding down and escaped 33-30.  That was a heavyweight fight. Those Arth JCU teams were legit.

JCU also just missed a FG to tie if memory serves, the kick coming up short as time expired (fact check:  It does!).  I remember Coach Scafe telling me about that game when I was an undergrad and hanging around football practice pretending I was a journalist.  I can't remember if he said this in an interview or if we were just talking in his office, so there's a chance I have audio of this somewhere.  When the kick went up, Scafe thought it was good, and turned around to start prepping for overtime.  Only when he saw his players faces and heard the crowd did he realize that the kick missed.  If I remember correctly (don't hold me to it), he put that game in front of the game of the millennium as his best chance at beating Mount.

[pradierguy]

Mount Union announced the newest members of the M Club. Among this year' inductees are Mark Black and the great Bill Borchert. Here is a link with more info: http://athletics.mountunion.edu/m-club/m-club-hof-2013

Looking through the quick stats listed in the release, Bill Borchert was simply amazing. My favorite stat is of his 946 career completions, 189, or 20%, of them were for touchdowns. Downright silly. For those who saw him play, how good was he, really?

[rscl70]

Sorry to interrupt any banter, but over on the E8 boards, a few are discussing "greatest comeback wins" after determining that Alfred's win at Brockport State Saturday night, in AU's 118 years of college football, was just that. Alfred trailed, 28-0, at halftime and after missing a game-winning field goal on the last play of regulation, defeated their hosts, 34-28 in OT.

Someone over there inquired about Mount Union's greatest comeback win. Aside from the crazy win over UMHB in the playoffs last year, Pep can't imagine the Raiders ever had to come from behind to win....at least in the past 20 years.

On Saxon Warriors!

The game at JCU (actually Bedford HS that year) in 2001 was a good comeback. Not really because of the deficit but because that was a REAL chance to lose. JCU went up 30-27 late I'm sure on yet another Arth TD pass. Mount had to put together a clutch final drive including convert a 4th down where the TE deflected the ball up in the air and it hung there for what felt like an hour before he grabbed it again for the 1st down.  They scored as time was winding down and escaped 33-30.  That was a heavyweight fight. Those Arth JCU teams were legit.

JCU also just missed a FG to tie if memory serves, the kick coming up short as time expired (fact check:  It does!).  I remember Coach Scafe telling me about that game when I was an undergrad and hanging around football practice pretending I was a journalist.  I can't remember if he said this in an interview or if we were just talking in his office, so there's a chance I have audio of this somewhere.  When the kick went up, Scafe thought it was good, and turned around to start prepping for overtime.  Only when he saw his players faces and heard the crowd did he realize that the kick missed.  If I remember correctly (don't hold me to it), he put that game in front of the game of the millennium as his best chance at beating Mount.

As long as we're talking comebacks and Mount - JCU match ups - No one who saw it will ever forget the 1999 game at John Carroll, which Mount won 57- 51 in three overtimes.  Man, I was shaking like a leaf when that one ended!

[Dr. Acula]

Mount Union announced the newest members of the M Club. Among this year' inductees are Mark Black and the great Bill Borchert. Here is a link with more info: http://athletics.mountunion.edu/m-club/m-club-hof-2013

Looking through the quick stats listed in the release, Bill Borchert was simply amazing. My favorite stat is of his 946 career completions, 189, or 20%, of them were for touchdowns. Downright silly. For those who saw him play, how good was he, really?

I only saw him for the 1997 season (my freshman yr), but we worked every home game so I saw them all that year.  He didn't have the rocket arm of a Ballard, but his accuracy, touch and decision making were second to none.  His completion % and TD:INT ratio were video game level outrageous.  He had unbelievable touch on deep balls.  And he was a sneaky good runner too (was an option QB in HS).  Quite simply he didn't have a weakness.  He was good at every aspect of the position.  His stats tell you he was the best ever at Mount.  Nothing I saw that year or since makes me believe any different.  The only argument I could see is "Ballard was better, but didn't have as many games to rack up the stats."  That was before my time though so I don't know. 

[Dr. Acula]

Also on Borchert...his two Stagg Bowl stat lines? 

1996:  26-38, 505 yds, 7 TD
1997:  25-41, 439 yds, 6 TD

[joelmama]

Also on Borchert...his two Stagg Bowl stat lines? 

1996:  26-38, 505 yds, 7 TD
1997:  25-41, 439 yds, 6 TD

Yeah his completion percentage really sucked in the 97 Stagg. but between the two years MUC gained 12 yards per attempt ( 18.5 per completion) scored a TD on 1 of every 6 attempts and 1 of every 4 completions.  I don't think there is a video game you can do that on.

[HScoach]

Borchert was the best of the Mount QBs.   Scary good.   Unbelievable deep ball.

[reality check]

Best Mount Union comeback?

They trailed 7-0 to Marietta just this weekend as late as 3 minutes into the first quarter and fought back hard to come away in a squeaker 84-14.

[Jacket_Backer]

How about 2011 BW vs. Mount? 

Not a huge comeback in terms of points, but a pretty damn good game.  BW comes back from being down 19-0 at half to take a 20-19 lead with under 2min remaining.  Mount throws 35+ yard TD pass on 4th and 13 over NEARLY perfect coverage with 40ish seconds left. 

From the highest of highs to the lowest of lows for a BW senior

[purple]

I'd like to make the case for Gary Smeck as the equal of The Great Number 7. Gary is the only Mount QB who won a title as a sophomore,was an incredible 40-1 as a starting QB at Mount and won two National Championships. Gary wasn't perhaps the most talented QB we ever had ,but also did not have,especially his sophomore year,as good a supporting cast. The miracle 1998 team was led by the incomparable linebacker Jason Hall.

[Dr. Acula]

I'd like to make the case for Gary Smeck as the equal of The Great Number 7. Gary is the only Mount QB who won a title as a sophomore,was an incredible 40-1 as a starting QB at Mount and won two National Championships. Gary wasn't perhaps the most talented QB we ever had ,but also did not have,especially his sophomore year,as good a supporting cast. The miracle 1998 team was led by the incomparable linebacker Jason Hall.

Burke was a sophomore last year.

I've long been a Smeck homer.  As I said, I was a freshman in 97 so Smeck and I were in the same class.  I saw all their home games, was friends with guys on those teams, etc. so I always temper it with the understanding that I'm biased because of those things.  But Smeck's numbers are underrated.  Because he started 3 years his career numbers are impressive.  2 titles is also impressive. 

But while I agree about the 1998 supporting cast being green, the 2000 team had seasoned Marino, Moore and Pugh as the main skill guys.  Those guys are all top 5 (possibly top 3) at their position in the history of the program.  Plus he had an AA tackle and guard in front of him (Gerber, Rychel).  Not a bad situation!