FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

I realize that the shovel-fumble was a terrible call, but did anyone else notice LK run right onto the field to argue with the refs about it?  I have to feel like if that was an AD from any other college that would be a 15 yarder..

I didn't see LK go out on the field. I don't believe LK was even on the field. The person I think you think was LK was not.

Ric, I disagree. That is LK talking with the refs in the team box at the 2:08:37 mark. I remember making note of it while it was happening live.

Whether he is physically on the field is another question, but he is definitely at least in the team box and part of that discussion, even if just by standing there.

[Pat Coleman]

I listened to the podcast over lunch to hear what Pat and Keith had to say about the big games.  Pat mentioned that in the first half he thought Mount's WRs looked average for DIII, but by the end of the game he upgraded them to average for Mount.  He also made a good point in that none of them require a double team which is unusual for Mount recently.  I noticed in the Ott game and again Berg where Burke had time, but no one was getting open.  The odd thing is that all of them have, on occasion, gotten deep and made big plays.  It's just that none of them are burners that just take off and outrun the DB and force safety help like a Garcon/Shorts/Collins type.

The other intriguing thing was their discussion of the OAC tiebreaker in the event of a 3 way tie at 9-1.  The other 7 coaches vote for who gets the Pool A.  Pat brought up that they should vote in the least worthy (according to the selection criteria) in an attempt to make sure you get 2, possibly 3 teams in.

They talk about the Berg/Mount game first and I'd definitely recommend giving it a listen.  Well worth the 10-15 minutes (or in my case the hour I ended up listening!).

Thanks for sticking out a whole hour! But for those interested, my discussion of the game is in that first 15 minutes.

[MUC80]

In the podcast, I laughed when I heard Pat's comment about "it's hard to recruit a punter to Mount Union because what does a punter get to do" there? I never really thought about it but he's right. It's not like he's going to be playing Tressel-ball and keep playing for position by pinning the opponent inside the 10 all day.

[rscl70]

Thanks for all the kind words!

Yah.....Blutarsky.......ARRGGH!  Exactly what I didn't want to hear, but certainly realize that is what he is signing up for (provided he makes it through the program).

Interesting note....when talking to the ROTC guy at George Mason, I asked him what was the #1 reason kids didn't make it in the ROTC program.  Answer.....they just hate getting up that early in the morning for PT.  Jr. isn't the greatest early riser (to put it mildly), so that will be a challenge for him.  He is passionate about all things military and global, so I think he is making a great decision.  I believe JK was a recruiter at one point, and possibly even the POMS at a college down south somewhere.  I think he then opted out of the military and is doing something else these days.  Don't quote me on that though.

On to all things OAC football.  It will be very interesting to see how the JCU/Berg game shakes out.  I am thinking it could be a slugfest, with a last man standing kind of feel.  If JCU does roll them, then I will say......."UH OH"!  Here comes a Mount/JCU classic.

JK is currently deployed in Qatar.

[SaintsFAN]

Thanks for all the kind words!

Yah.....Blutarsky.......ARRGGH!  Exactly what I didn't want to hear, but certainly realize that is what he is signing up for (provided he makes it through the program).

Interesting note....when talking to the ROTC guy at George Mason, I asked him what was the #1 reason kids didn't make it in the ROTC program.  Answer.....they just hate getting up that early in the morning for PT.  Jr. isn't the greatest early riser (to put it mildly), so that will be a challenge for him.  He is passionate about all things military and global, so I think he is making a great decision.  I believe JK was a recruiter at one point, and possibly even the POMS at a college down south somewhere.  I think he then opted out of the military and is doing something else these days.  Don't quote me on that though.

On to all things OAC football.  It will be very interesting to see how the JCU/Berg game shakes out.  I am thinking it could be a slugfest, with a last man standing kind of feel.  If JCU does roll them, then I will say......."UH OH"!  Here comes a Mount/JCU classic.

JK is currently deployed in Qatar.

He was in the UK ROTC office in Lexington.  I contacted him via Facebook to mosey on back to this thread.

[SaintsFAN]

I listened to the podcast over lunch to hear what Pat and Keith had to say about the big games.  Pat mentioned that in the first half he thought Mount's WRs looked average for DIII, but by the end of the game he upgraded them to average for Mount.  He also made a good point in that none of them require a double team which is unusual for Mount recently.  I noticed in the Ott game and again Berg where Burke had time, but no one was getting open.  The odd thing is that all of them have, on occasion, gotten deep and made big plays.  It's just that none of them are burners that just take off and outrun the DB and force safety help like a Garcon/Shorts/Collins type.

The other intriguing thing was their discussion of the OAC tiebreaker in the event of a 3 way tie at 9-1.  The other 7 coaches vote for who gets the Pool A.  Pat brought up that they should vote in the least worthy (according to the selection criteria) in an attempt to make sure you get 2, possibly 3 teams in.

They talk about the Berg/Mount game first and I'd definitely recommend giving it a listen.  Well worth the 10-15 minutes (or in my case the hour I ended up listening!).

Thanks for sticking out a whole hour! But for those interested, my discussion of the game is in that first 15 minutes.

Pat - liked your comment on how your opinion of the UMU WR's changed upon the 60 minutes of football you saw in Tiffin.

[SaintsFAN]

I realize that the shovel-fumble was a terrible call, but did anyone else notice LK run right onto the field to argue with the refs about it?  I have to feel like if that was an AD from any other college that would be a 15 yarder..

I didn't see LK go out on the field. I don't believe LK was even on the field. The person I think you think was LK was not.

Ric, I disagree. That is LK talking with the refs in the team box at the 2:08:37 mark. I remember making note of it while it was happening live.

Whether he is physically on the field is another question, but he is definitely at least in the team box and part of that discussion, even if just by standing there.

Maybe Grossman was boxing Ric out, basketball-style in the tent at precisely that moment??

[SaintsFAN]

I listened to the podcast over lunch to hear what Pat and Keith had to say about the big games.  Pat mentioned that in the first half he thought Mount's WRs looked average for DIII, but by the end of the game he upgraded them to average for Mount.  He also made a good point in that none of them require a double team which is unusual for Mount recently.  I noticed in the Ott game and again Berg where Burke had time, but no one was getting open.  The odd thing is that all of them have, on occasion, gotten deep and made big plays.  It's just that none of them are burners that just take off and outrun the DB and force safety help like a Garcon/Shorts/Collins type.

The other intriguing thing was their discussion of the OAC tiebreaker in the event of a 3 way tie at 9-1.  The other 7 coaches vote for who gets the Pool A.  Pat brought up that they should vote in the least worthy (according to the selection criteria) in an attempt to make sure you get 2, possibly 3 teams in.

They talk about the Berg/Mount game first and I'd definitely recommend giving it a listen.  Well worth the 10-15 minutes (or in my case the hour I ended up listening!).

To me, what stood out about Collins was the precision he ran his routes with. He was a damn good route runner.

[jaypeter]

I realize that the shovel-fumble was a terrible call, but did anyone else notice LK run right onto the field to argue with the refs about it?  I have to feel like if that was an AD from any other college that would be a 15 yarder..

Perhaps he was just trying to pay Vince back for the Stag Bowl a few years back!   

[mr_mom]

The spreads for Week 10 of the OAC Pick-Em are posted.

I've decided to scrap the playoff analogy; it's Round 2 of the OAC Rock-Paper-Scissors Challenge!   

Go have at 'em!

[JK]

I am here.  I am currently deployed to Qatar.  I was supposed to be in Afghanistan, so all things considered, it ain't too bad.

I was hit up not once, but twice on facebook to come back to the thread.

It was never anything personal.  I just got more responsibility at work and, at the same time, Capital started to suck again, so I started following less and less.  I didn't really have anything to add to the discussion, so I visited less often, until I hardly visited at all.  By that point, I was so behind on conversations, I didn't just want to jump into the middle of something. 

Plus, the Army, perhaps because at one point I was spending every free second on here, blocked the site on my work computer.  Now that my kids are 7 and 3, they are involved in a lot more stuff, so there wasn't a lot of time to surf the thread at home either.

Anyway, nice to be back.  A quick scroll through the last couple of pages makes it seem like it is all the usual suspects. 

I was an APMS/ Instructor at the University of Kentucky from 05-08 and then I have been an APMS/Recruiting Officer for the combined ROTC program at Xavier/ Miami (OH)/ Northern Kentucky University/ MSJ/ TMC for the last couple of years until I was deployed.  The Kentucky National Guard (I switched from Active Duty to Guard duty in 2008) put me there to build up the number of Cadets in the NKU part of the program and thus, get more into the KY Guard.

There are a number of reasons kids don't make it in ROTC, but it's not a stretch to say early morning PT is a big reason why.  It's not just PT, it's having the discipline to make unpopular choices, like stay in when all your friends are going out, and commitment to forcing yourself out of bed when all your buddies are sleeping.  It has to be that way, because as you move up into the ranks like where I am at now, no one is there to hold your hand, to force you to get up and do PT, but you still have to meet the standard- set the standard, actually.  Time management is another big issue.  ROTC adds a lot to your schedule as a college kid, and you have to be able to juggle it all.  That is tough for younger Cadets, and they quit becasue they don't see the payoff after four years of it.  Anyway- if there is a specific question or something you would like me to explain more, I'd be happy to.  Just have to remember I am 8 hours ahead of you all, and I can't get to the boards on my work computer, so it might take me a while to respond.   

[JK]

Also, ROTC Scholarships have become almost as competetive as West Point appointments.  The Sequester cuts and other budgetary issues have caused things like ROTC to become a "bill payer" for other things, like the war in Afghanistan.  When I went back to ROTC in 2010 at Xavier, the Senior Class that year had 21 of 23 Cadets commissioned who went through College on ROTC Scholarship.  Last year when I left there, the incoming freshman class had 4 scholarships.  The "average" ROTC Scholarship cadet went from a 3.6 GPA and 25 ACT to 3.8 and 29 ACT.  Not to mention, the big push is for STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math) Majors.  SO they are looking at HS transcripts for Calculus, Physics, other AP Math and Science classes, and factoring in how well kids performed in those classes to gague their propensity to excel in technical majors as opposed to "soft sciences."  If he doesn't get a scholarship, don't worry, there are other options, and I can tell you how to get him free, or nearly free, college through the SMP program or other options.  There are some risks, but I can show you how to mitigate them and make more spending money than you would on an ROTC scholarship anyway!  You can email me at jonathan.r.kovach.mil@mail.mil if you want to move this discussion off the football boards.

[mr_mom]

Welcome back, JK!   

[section13raiderfan]

Blutarski, good to hear you kid is comming home. Evidently my son is his replacement as he will be in Afghanistan in a couple of weeks on his second deployment. He returned home last April only to see his neighborhood get flattened by a tornado. Now thats stressful!

As for the fumble pass, or shuffle drop as its know its know elsewhere, do you think this crew even knows what the fumblerewski is? Might be fun to run one and see what kind of call emerges from that crew. I envision the refs huddling and fighting over who has to make the call.

If the tape is reviewed by a rules committee do you think they would admit error? If they know something we dont about the play why not let us in on the secret?

On the video broadcast the announcer said that there were more people standing to see the game than were seated. Why wouldnt you move the game to a bigger venue? Those standing will remember that next time the game is played there again and will stay home. Is there a lawn chair rule at the stadium?

[Dr. Acula]

Hallett said on Twitter there was zero chance of the game being moved to Frost Kalnow.  I believe someone mentioned that Tiffin was using it though so it may have been hard.

Even when they upgrade that place it will barely be better. I believe the capacity will be 1200 it said.  So any big game will have double the people standing as sitting.  Seems silly.