FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[HScoach]

its not arrogance if your team backs it up, arrogance would be the couple 'berg fans two weeks ago or the lone JCU fan.   Its easy to call names but I would like to see somebody predict a JCU win using numbers.  Any chance they had of coming out and grabbing an early lead has been erased by their own "arrogance" on social media.  Discuss....

If your arrogant, or dumb, enough to believe the JCU isn't a legitimate threat tomorrow you're beyond help.   Just in case there is an once of sense in your head, I already posted the numbers.  See below:

Was looking over some of the defensive # for JCU and it's quite impressive.
#1 in total defense (190 yds)
#1 in pass efficiency defense (62.95 rating)
#2 in pass defense (97.3 yds)
#14 in rushing defense (93.6 yds)
#1 in scoring defense (3.7 pts)
#1 in 3rd down conversion defense (20.3%)

Which makes some great contrasts to Mount Union's offense:
#2 in total offense (545 yds)
#1 in pass efficiency offense (188.78 rating)
#55 in pass offense (250 yds)
#8 in rushing offense (294 yds)
#2 in scoring offense (50.1 pts)
#1 in 3rd down conversion offense (63.6%)


Especially the huge difference in 3rd down conversion rates.   Other than turnovers, the game is likely decided right there. Should be a classic.

[02 Warhawk]

its not arrogance if your team backs it up, arrogance would be the couple 'berg fans two weeks ago or the lone JCU fan.   Its easy to call names but I would like to see somebody predict a JCU win using numbers.  Any chance they had of coming out and grabbing an early lead has been erased by their own "arrogance" on social media.  Discuss....

If your arrogant, or dumb, enough to believe the JCU isn't a legitimate threat tomorrow you're beyond help.   Just in case there is an once of sense in your head, I already posted the numbers. 

Ding!

HSCoach gets it.

[PurpleSuit]

its not arrogance if your team backs it up, arrogance would be the couple 'berg fans two weeks ago or the lone JCU fan.   Its easy to call names but I would like to see somebody predict a JCU win using numbers.  Any chance they had of coming out and grabbing an early lead has been erased by their own "arrogance" on social media.  Discuss....

If your arrogant, or dumb, enough to believe the JCU isn't a legitimate threat tomorrow you're beyond help.   Just in case there is an once of sense in your head, I already posted the numbers.  See below:

Was looking over some of the defensive # for JCU and it's quite impressive.
#1 in total defense (190 yds)
#1 in pass efficiency defense (62.95 rating)
#2 in pass defense (97.3 yds)
#14 in rushing defense (93.6 yds)
#1 in scoring defense (3.7 pts)
#1 in 3rd down conversion defense (20.3%)

Which makes some great contrasts to Mount Union's offense:
#2 in total offense (545 yds)
#1 in pass efficiency offense (188.78 rating)
#55 in pass offense (250 yds)
#8 in rushing offense (294 yds)
#2 in scoring offense (50.1 pts)
#1 in 3rd down conversion offense (63.6%)


Especially the huge difference in 3rd down conversion rates.   Other than turnovers, the game is likely decided right there. Should be a classic.

Once again certain D3 radio superstars have to call names to try to get a point across.  I have never said that JCU is not a good team.  I would struggle to call them a "great team."  The stats are what they are, beating 'Berg at home is a good win.  Maybe 'berg isnt anywhere close to what the D3 world thought they were?  Comparing scores is not a good way to measure teams, I'm sure the illustrious radio commentator would agree.  Mount dominated 'berg and so did JCU.  The rest of JCU's schedule is the bottom of the OAC and mighty St Norbert.

Mount shouldn't even show up on Saturday, the John Carroll defense is too good.  Good season Mount, the 11 national titles and 21 straight OAC titles mean nothing.  JCU deserves the conference title because they are decent again and they beat 'berg by more points.  I guess Mount could consider it a bye week before the playoffs.

We can argue about the definition of arrogance, but that doesn't matter.   Can anyone explain how JCU is going to make up the 40ish point difference between the teams last year, let alone now JCU has to play in Alliance?  "But they're good" is the response I think we'll see. 

Lets just hope JCU can make a better playoff impression than 'berg last season

[HScoach]

Want more numbers supporting JCU?   See below.   Advantage in BOLD.   Kind of looks like JCU stacks up quite well by the numbers against a very similar schedule.   And after Franklin's loss to crappy Bluffton, one could argue that JCU's schedule was better than Mount's.

TEAM STATISTICS and NATIONAL RANKING

3rd down conversion pct.
Mount 64% = 1st
JCU 44% = 45th

4th down conversion pct.
Mount 40% = 168th
JCU 60% = 33rd

First downs defense (per game)
Mount 12.5 = 5th
JCU 11.8 = 3rd

First downs offense (per game)
Mount 27.2 = 5th
JCU 21.1 = 67th

Fumbles lost
Mount 10 = 164th
JCU 6 = 69th

Fumbles recovered
Mount 15 = 12th
JCU 11 = 29th

Kickoff return defense
Mount 15.2 yds = 18th
JCU 16.9 yds = 43rd

Kickoff returns
Mount 15.8 yds = 228th
JCU 25.8 yds = 8th

Net punting
Mount 31.0 yds = 236th
JCU 30.4 yds = 162th

Passing offense (yards per game)
Mount 250.3 yds = 56th
JCU 304.3 yds = 16th

INT's thrown
Mount 6
JCU 6

TD's thrown
Mount 28
JCU 26

Passing defense (yards per game)
Mount 124.9 = 5th
JCU 97.0 = 2nd

Punt return defense
Mount 9.3 yds = 152nd
JCU 4.3 yds = 30th

Punt returns
Mount 7.8 yds = 121st
JCU 12.3 yds = 26th

Rushing defense (yards per game)
Mount 67.6 yds =  5th
JCU 93.0 yds = 14th

Rushing offense (yards per game)
Mount 294.3 yds = 8th
JCU 149.8 yds = 142nd

Scoring defense
Mount 10.2 = 4th
JCU 3.7 = 1st

Scoring offense
Mount 50.1 = 2nd
JCU 45.7 = 8th

Team pass sacks (defense)
Mount 27.0 = 27th
JCU 29.0 = 21st

Pass sacks allowed
Mount 13 = 73rd
JCU 3 =  2nd

Total defense
Mount 192.4 = 2nd
JCU 190.0 = 1st

Total offense
Mount 544.7 yds = 2nd
JCU 454.1 yds = 30th

Turnover margin
Mount +7 = 41st
JCU +13 = 14th

[Desertraider]

It's not Mount arrogance; it's one person's obnoxiousness.

obnoxiousness is arrogance's ugly cousin.

Yes, cuz we have never seen any Warhawks come on here and be arrogant - it's only Mount Union fans that are arrogant. I know I got the memo on that, must have misplaced it - or wiped with it. Can somebody PLEASE explain why a Mount fan thinking Mount is the best, and going to win is arrogance? And don't define 'arrogance' ya jack wagon. I mean fans from UWW got pretty "arrogant" after a couple Stagg Wins, Heidi fans (both of them)got pretty "arrogant" after 2wins this season. Mount fans thinking Mount is the best and going to win isn't being arrogant - it's being aware of history. Now then - moving on.

[HScoach]

......  Mount dominated 'berg and so did JCU.....

Hmmm, so Mount winning 44-34 is just as dominating as JCU winning 48-7?   

[ADL70]

JCU improved 62 points vs Heidelberg this year over last and Heidelberg improved 9 points vs Mt. Union.

[rscl70]

If it weren't for our Warhawk friends (and HScoach), who would represent for John Carroll?  Even Toph has been silent.  I'm sure if JCU wins tomorrow plenty will show up to rub it in. 

[rscl70]

its not arrogance if your team backs it up, arrogance would be the couple 'berg fans two weeks ago or the lone JCU fan.   Its easy to call names but I would like to see somebody predict a JCU win using numbers.  Any chance they had of coming out and grabbing an early lead has been erased by their own "arrogance" on social media.  Discuss....

If your arrogant, or dumb, enough to believe the JCU isn't a legitimate threat tomorrow you're beyond help.   Just in case there is an once of sense in your head, I already posted the numbers.  See below:

Was looking over some of the defensive # for JCU and it's quite impressive.
#1 in total defense (190 yds)
#1 in pass efficiency defense (62.95 rating)
#2 in pass defense (97.3 yds)
#14 in rushing defense (93.6 yds)
#1 in scoring defense (3.7 pts)
#1 in 3rd down conversion defense (20.3%)

Which makes some great contrasts to Mount Union's offense:
#2 in total offense (545 yds)
#1 in pass efficiency offense (188.78 rating)
#55 in pass offense (250 yds)
#8 in rushing offense (294 yds)
#2 in scoring offense (50.1 pts)
#1 in 3rd down conversion offense (63.6%)


Especially the huge difference in 3rd down conversion rates.   Other than turnovers, the game is likely decided right there. Should be a classic.

Once again certain D3 radio superstars have to call names to try to get a point across.  I have never said that JCU is not a good team.  I would struggle to call them a "great team."  The stats are what they are, beating 'Berg at home is a good win.  Maybe 'berg isnt anywhere close to what the D3 world thought they were?  Comparing scores is not a good way to measure teams, I'm sure the illustrious radio commentator would agree.  Mount dominated 'berg and so did JCU.  The rest of JCU's schedule is the bottom of the OAC and mighty St Norbert.

Mount shouldn't even show up on Saturday, the John Carroll defense is too good.  Good season Mount, the 11 national titles and 21 straight OAC titles mean nothing.  JCU deserves the conference title because they are decent again and they beat 'berg by more points.  I guess Mount could consider it a bye week before the playoffs.

We can argue about the definition of arrogance, but that doesn't matter.  Can anyone explain how JCU is going to make up the 40ish point difference between the teams last year, let alone now JCU has to play in Alliance?  "But they're good" is the response I think we'll see. 

Lets just hope JCU can make a better playoff impression than 'berg last season

Perhaps a new coach, a new system that better takes advantage of the player's talent, and a much improved level of confidence?

[voice]

John Carroll is a good team but they are not a Mount caliber team.  Mount put up 59 on JCU last year, are we thinking that Mount has taken that big of dip/JCU gotten than much better this year?  I love the D3 love fest that we have with 'berg and JCU, but there's a difference between Mount and others.  JCU poked the bear with the whole Mount Who thing and they will get the consequence.  JCU caught Heidi in their annual November swoon that ruins their seasons, a good win but nothing surprising.  JCU will get their welcome to the playoffs on Sat, hopefully they can bounce back and make a good run after losing the OAC.  Second place is really good for JCU.

Mount scores 40+ unless JCU goes BW and slows the game down to 1960, nine games of #1 defense is a great accomplishment for JCU but that wont last

From a neutral observer...

I've enjoyed HScoaches thoughts and statistical breakdown of tomorrow's game.

In my mind, if you listed each team's season stats without indicating which team's stats are which... I think JCU is a slight favorite. I'm just saying......

[PurpleSuit]

......  Mount dominated 'berg and so did JCU.....

Hmmm, so Mount winning 44-34 is just as dominating as JCU winning 48-7?

I thought you were a football expert, final score is everything? I know you were at the Mount-Berg game, tell me it was an evenly played game. 

It will be interesting to see the radio wonder make his pick for tomorrow.  Do you follow all the amazing JCU stats or pick Mount to win as always?  I mean JCU looks tremendously better in the punt and kick return coverage game, maybe I'll change my pick.  Does anyone think that in the first year of JCU being decent since the first Bush administration, maybe they are playing their starters a little bit longer into the second half of blow outs, thus changing the oh so influential stats? 

It will be business as usual for Mount Who tomorrow at 1:30

[MasterJedi]

If it weren't for our Warhawk friends (and HScoach), who would represent for John Carroll?  Even Toph has been silent.  I'm sure if JCU wins tomorrow plenty will show up to rub it in. 

From this UWW fan the game could go either way. Maybe I'll root for JCU because Mount isn't having video! 

[Desertraider]

I was going to come on here and mention that I am impressed by what JCU has done, offense and defense. I was going to talk about JCUs QB and how he worries me a bit with his size, big-arm, accuracy, and ability to read defenses. I was going to mention that I think JCU has a LEGITIMATE shot to win this game. Was going to mention that Mounts pass D has been questionable against average QBs, and the D has not been consistent with pressuring the QB.

However, I will instead focus on the fact that Mount is Mount - and Mount will win. I will put my faith in Big Ted Rosalva, Matt Fechko (No stupid penalties!), and Tom Lally. They will dial it up. All the stats are great (they really are - I love them) but they are also misleading and we all know that (HSCoach you even have the "statistics/bikini reference"!). I notice the rushing yards are not listed (for offense). Mount has 2649 yards on the season (average of 294 a game). JCU has 1348 (avg. 149). Against Heidi Mount geared up on the run - I counted 8 in the box all afternoon - and Heidi got a lot of passing yards. But JCU can't run the ball. Would not suprise me to see Mount drop 7 or 8 in coverage and force JCU to try and run. The more I look at it the more I see that Mount is a team with weapons (not as many as last year), while JCU is a team with a stud QB. But one more statistic is not mentioned in that impressive list: Mount Union has won 22 in a row against JCU.

Remember: The Autumn Wind is a Raider! http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/index

BTW: Mount has beaten D1 transfer QBs before - Gus Ornstein, who unlike JCUs guy actually PLAYED D1 and was all-Big 10 2 years in a row.

[PurpleSuit]

I was going to come on here and mention that I am impressed by what JCU has done, offense and defense. I was going to talk about JCUs QB and how he worries me a bit with his size, big-arm, accuracy, and ability to read defenses. I was going to mention that I think JCU has a LEGITIMATE shot to win this game. Was going to mention that Mounts pass D has been questionable against average QBs, and the D has not been consistent with pressuring the QB.

However, I will instead focus on the fact that Mount is Mount - and Mount will win. I will put my faith in Big Ted Rosalva, Matt Fechko (No stupid penalties!), and Tom Lally. They will dial it up. All the stats are great (they really are - I love them) but they are also misleading and we all know that. I notice the rushing yards are not listed (for offense). Mount has 2649 yards on the season (average of 294 a game). JCU has 1348 (avg. 149). Against Heidi Mount geared up on the run - I counted 8 in the box all afternoon - and Heidi got a lot of passing yards. But JCU can't run the ball. Would not suprise me to see Mount drop 7 or 8 in coverage and force JCU to try and run. The more I look at it the more I see that Mount is a team with weapons (not as many as last year), while JCU is a team with a stud QB.

Remember: The Autumn Wind is a Raider! http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/index

BTW: Mount has beaten D1 transfer QBs before - Gus Ornstein, who unlike JCUs guy actually PLAYED D1 and was all-Big 10 2 years in a row.

must be arrogant or dumb

[ADL70]

I was going to come on here and mention that I am impressed by what JCU has done, offense and defense. I was going to talk about JCUs QB and how he worries me a bit with his size, big-arm, accuracy, and ability to read defenses. I was going to mention that I think JCU has a LEGITIMATE shot to win this game. Was going to mention that Mounts pass D has been questionable against average QBs, and the D has not been consistent with pressuring the QB.

However, I will instead focus on the fact that Mount is Mount - and Mount will win. I will put my faith in Big Ted Rosalva, Matt Fechko (No stupid penalties!), and Tom Lally. They will dial it up. All the stats are great (they really are - I love them) but they are also misleading and we all know that (HSCoach you even have the "statistics/bikini reference"!). I notice the rushing yards are not listed (for offense). Mount has 2649 yards on the season (average of 294 a game). JCU has 1348 (avg. 149). Against Heidi Mount geared up on the run - I counted 8 in the box all afternoon - and Heidi got a lot of passing yards. But JCU can't run the ball. Would not suprise me to see Mount drop 7 or 8 in coverage and force JCU to try and run. The more I look at it the more I see that Mount is a team with weapons (not as many as last year), while JCU is a team with a stud QB. But one more statistic is not mentioned in that impressive list: Mount Union has won 22 in a row against JCU.

Remember: The Autumn Wind is a Raider! http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/index

BTW: Mount has beaten D1 transfer QBs before - Gus Ornstein, who unlike JCUs guy actually PLAYED D1 and was all-Big 10 2 years in a row.

This bio doesn't seem to support All Big 10.

http://www.jewsinsports.org/profile.asp?sport=football&ID=298

Mt Union also beat another MSU transfer BW's Dan Larlham.