FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Ric]

RIC, where on the Mount site is the 2014 schedule?

http://www.oac.org/sports/fball/Future_Schedules/Future_OAC_Schedules

[purple]

  I didn't see anything on the replay that justified a "Personal Foul" flag on Mount's no.25 late in the game?  Did anyone see that?  It was on the JCU sideline. I noticed VK did not take the young man out of the game. Anything anyone has on that would be appreciated.  Another great job by Ric and HS Coach.  JCU's quarterback is truly blessed to have receivers like that,they made catch after catch with tight coverage. I love it we get JCU at home again next year.

[HScoach]

Get this JCU fans. Next year the OAC schedule flips like it does every few years. Because of this flipping of the schedule, you have some teams playing back to back years on the road against the same team. That happens to JCU next year. Mark your calendars, week ten, John Carroll AT Mount Union in 2014. Yes this is insane. The best QB in the history of JCU (yes I said that) and he will have to play AT Mount Union both his junior and senior seasons. Tim Gleason was behind me in the bathroom line at halftime. For an instant I really thought about dragging him in there with me and pummeling the $h!t out of him. First we have deal with CYA officiating, now this. Wait till JCU fans see next year's schedule. Its just ridiculous.

Should have taken your shot when you had it.   The OAC as a whole would have pooled resources to post your bail.

[joelmama]

RIC, where on the Mount site is the 2014 schedule?

http://www.oac.org/sports/fball/Future_Schedules/Future_OAC_Schedules

Who does Mount play out of conference next year?

[reality check]

Anyone else looking forward to purplesuit's "expert reaction/analysis" of the big game?  For entertainment sake I mean.

[skunks_sidekick]

RIC, where on the Mount site is the 2014 schedule?

http://www.oac.org/sports/fball/Future_Schedules/Future_OAC_Schedules

Who does Mount play out of conference next year?

Bethany I believe for the next two years.

[reality check]

Regarding the clock:

I don't know all the details so I am asking to make sure I understand this correctly.  With 2.2 on the clock, they attempted to spike?  I assume the new spike rule should have been enforced anyways.  Remember Wisconsin/ASU at the beginning of the season?  New NCAA rule, I assume effects all levels, says you can't spike with 3 seconds or less on the clock. 

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2013/08/17/new-ncaa-spike-rule-could-add-chaos-to-end-of-games-change-strategy/

[wally_wabash]

Regarding the clock:

I don't know all the details so I am asking to make sure I understand this correctly.  With 2.2 on the clock, they attempted to spike?  I assume the new spike rule should have been enforced anyways.  Remember Wisconsin/ASU at the beginning of the season?  New NCAA rule, I assume effects all levels, says you can't spike with 3 seconds or less on the clock. 

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2013/08/17/new-ncaa-spike-rule-could-add-chaos-to-end-of-games-change-strategy/

Correct. By rule, you can't spike the ball and get another play with under three seconds to play.

Minimum Time For A Play After Spiking The Ball
ARTICLE 5. a. If the game clock is stopped and will start on the referee's signal with three or more seconds remaining in the quarter, the offense may reasonably expect to throw the ball directly to the ground (Rule 7-3-2-e) and have enough time for another play.
b. With two seconds or one second on the game clock there is enough time for only one play. (A.R. 3-3-5-I)

[HScoach]

Anyone else looking forward to purplesuit's "expert reaction/analysis" of the big game?  For entertainment sake I mean.

I can hardly wait.

[Dr. Acula]

Two things from my days being a scoreboard operator for Mount games.  First, I remember every single week when we met with the officials before the game they would tell us the same thing:  Do NOT anticipate anything.  You stop and start the clock on our signals, not the game action.       

Second, the scoreboard clock isn't even the official clock.  One of the officials keeps the time on the field.  Or at least that's how it was.  I would assume that's still the case.

[Craft_Beermeister]

Watched the game last night on STO and it was truly amazing. The first half was incredible and the stop just before half by Munt was key. If JC scores right before half then comes out and gets the ball first too start - that COULD have changed the outcome. However, I am not so sure it would have. I wattched the game and what I saw was Mount taking the foot off the gas in third quarter. I didn't see JC really stop them so much as Mount not executing. That is not a slap on JC by any means - just seemed like Mount got comfortable and stopped being as aggressive. IMHO.

Based on the playoff projections (which would be SWEET!) Mount will roll into the semis. JC on the other hand would have the UWW bracket. If they were to make it throught that bracket for a rematch with Mount - wow. They would have already run a gauntlet. We shall see. Great game by both teams - here's hoping the playoff projections pan out. Have this fear the NCAA slaps Mount and UWW in same bracket to avoid Stagg #5000 between them.

I agree that the stop at end of the first half was one of the keys to the game, but Mount got the ball first in the second half not JCU.  JCU got a quick turnover with a strip sack of Burke which from vantage point appeared that the ball was at Burke's feet and a Mount lineman was first to ball but wasn't aggressive enough in securing the ball which was pulled out of his hands in the scrum.  Similar to the Heidelberg game Mount's of offense got a bit sluggish and let their opponent back in the game.  The 3rd quarter seemed to last forever.

Great game and great win for the young Mount team which earned some more time to grow as a team.

[Toph]

Regarding the clock:

I don't know all the details so I am asking to make sure I understand this correctly.  With 2.2 on the clock, they attempted to spike?  I assume the new spike rule should have been enforced anyways.  Remember Wisconsin/ASU at the beginning of the season?  New NCAA rule, I assume effects all levels, says you can't spike with 3 seconds or less on the clock. 

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2013/08/17/new-ncaa-spike-rule-could-add-chaos-to-end-of-games-change-strategy/

Ric mistyped, I think.  There was 8.2 left.  A total of 2.2 came off on the spike.  My argument is that the clock didn't stop fast enough on the spike.  I understand the clock starts when the ball is set.  But the team was already lined up when the ball was set.  As soon as the ball is set, it was snapped and spiked.  I see that taking no more than 1.5 seconds tops.  There were clock issues throughout the day and the lights weren't turned on.  I really don't know what was happening in the Mount press box.  We will have to agree to disagree.

The other key play that no one has mentioned yet is the pass interference that wiped out an interception in the 3rd.  The consensus from my section (of which I was the only JCU fan) was that the Mount receiver tripped or stutter-stepped, causing incidental contact.  Not that OAC officiating has been great, but I think that's why the back judge, who was right on top of the play, kept his flag in his pocket while the flag came from the side judge 15 yards away.  That led to a Mount score, and who knows what could've happened if the interception stood.  I didn't watch the replay yet, so I'll have to take another look.

As for the flipped schedule, clearly the OAC is more interested in protecting Mount Union than anything.   

[section13raiderfan]

My favorite moment of the STO replay was watching Larry Kehres celebrating a touchdown pass as he stood at the goal line on the track. Not his usual sideline Deportment.

There sure was a lot of grabbing of receivers as they made their cuts! The officials didnt seem to mind though. I hope that crew does not get a playoff game.

Tom Arth might just win COY for the improvement of that program. Vince Kehres and Tom Hallett will be  stiff competition. Heidy faded, true, but do you remember where that team was before him?

To all those critics who say that Mount Union gets to the playoffs because all the teams in their conference are weak.....Keep your eye on John Carroll.

ROLL RAIDERS ROLL

JOHN CARROLL SHOW EM WHAT YOU CAN DO!

[bambord]

great catch rc.  Wish I knew how to praise you w/Karma; if I am eligible.

pt

Regarding the clock:

I don't know all the details so I am asking to make sure I understand this correctly.  With 2.2 on the clock, they attempted to spike?  I assume the new spike rule should have been enforced anyways.  Remember Wisconsin/ASU at the beginning of the season?  New NCAA rule, I assume effects all levels, says you can't spike with 3 seconds or less on the clock. 

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2013/08/17/new-ncaa-spike-rule-could-add-chaos-to-end-of-games-change-strategy/

[edward de vere]

Toph - It would seem reasonable to believe that if the powers-that-be say that a spike cannot be expected to be accomplished  in less than three seconds at the end of the quarter, then a spike cannot be expected to be accomplished in less than three seconds at ANY POINT OF THE GAME.  Maybe it CAN be but it cannot be EXPECTED to be.

Yes?  No?