FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[ExTartanPlayer]

Apparently SOME JCU fans have decided to take the 'classy' title from Philly fans. Had a bunch of students talking about JCU fans f'bombing them walking across campus after game, throwing "stuff" at King Hall and other buildings, and even f'bombing them at Chipolte after the game. I know this will of course invite every tale of a bad Mount fan, however - f'bombing (literally quoted as "F@#! you! Mount Sucks! F@#! Mount Union!) 3 girls and their Mom at a restaurant after the game? Knocking stuff over and throwing things at campus buildings? Stay classy JC, stay classy.

Posted this article and had a lively discussion about it elsewhere a few weeks ago.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2013/10/canzano_blog_ex-ducks_player_t.html

This is a slightly different perspective (fans being critical of their own team), but the point stands that often times the behavior of fans can be at odds with what the coaches and players would desire.  I don't think most players would condone such behavior from their own fans towards another team's fans or players.  As a player, I wanted to beat my opponent on the field, but not for my own fans to openly disrespect or taunt the other team.

[PurpleSuit]

its not arrogance if your team backs it up, arrogance would be the couple 'berg fans two weeks ago or the lone JCU fan.   Its easy to call names but I would like to see somebody predict a JCU win using numbers.  Any chance they had of coming out and grabbing an early lead has been erased by their own "arrogance" on social media.  Discuss....

First, pal...I've been around here far longer than you have, and secondly, I'm fairly certain I've seen more Mount Union games than you have.  I saw games at Mount Union before the purple suits even existed.  I watched Bill Borchert carve up defenses in person. 

I also find it funny that you ask people to back up a prediction for a JCU win "using numbers" and then later mock that use of numbers...here:

but how many Pitt transfers have they beat??? well I guess last year when they beat the current JCU QB...but its a whole new JCU offense and coach and their players have confidence now!!!!  JCU has stats!!!

You're projecting.  I actually haven't seen anyone actually outright predicting a JCU win (myself included).  If I had to pick a winner, I'd pick Mount close.  I'll stick to what I said earlier.  This is JCU's best shot in years. 

Stick to what you do best.  Get outrageously drunk, put on a suit you bought at the thrift store and dyed purple.  The adults are talking.

I'm glad you decided to show up for the biggest game in your program's lackluster history.  I guess you could skip the dyed purple suit, but I think the getting outrageously drunk part would be an ok choice for the Jesuits watching JCU football over the years.  At least you would leave the ballboys alone.  You can keep your adult conversation about the last time JCU was a relevant football program.  In two years nobody will care about JCU unless Arth can convince another failed Iggy QB to transfer in.

Good luck with your joke of a program in MHB's region

Anyone else looking forward to purplesuit's "expert reaction/analysis" of the big game?  For entertainment sake I mean.

Maybe I'll make a prediction after the ONU playoff matchup comes out........
will be a blowout, just like if Mount made a single adjustment in the JCU game.  VK is still learning from the guy down in the endzone corner on games.

Anyone else looking forward to purplesuit's "expert reaction/analysis" of the big game?  For entertainment sake I mean.

I can hardly wait.

you can hardly wait, or can't hardly wait?  not a Mount english major...I'm guessing

[ITH radio]

our podcast from last night featuring D3 Selection Chair Duey Naatz and Lenny Reich of UMU, among other guests:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ith/2013/11/18/in-the-huddlle--liberty-league-football-talk-show

[emma17]

Purplesuit,
I ask this question w all respect to you as a person- why are you so filled with anger?

I'm sure you're a decent person- you don't need to be so harsh in order to make your point.

Fwiw- I think some of your football opinions have merit, but it would be great if you would ease off a bit on personal attacks.

[Desertraider]

Apparently SOME JCU fans have decided to take the 'classy' title from Philly fans. Had a bunch of students talking about JCU fans f'bombing them walking across campus after game, throwing "stuff" at King Hall and other buildings, and even f'bombing them at Chipolte after the game. I know this will of course invite every tale of a bad Mount fan, however - f'bombing (literally quoted as "F@#! you! Mount Sucks! F@#! Mount Union!) 3 girls and their Mom at a restaurant after the game? Knocking stuff over and throwing things at campus buildings? Stay classy JC, stay classy.

Posted this article and had a lively discussion about it elsewhere a few weeks ago.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2013/10/canzano_blog_ex-ducks_player_t.html

This is a slightly different perspective (fans being critical of their own team), but the point stands that often times the behavior of fans can be at odds with what the coaches and players would desire.  I don't think most players would condone such behavior from their own fans towards another team's fans or players.  As a player, I wanted to beat my opponent on the field, but not for my own fans to openly disrespect or taunt the other team.

The article is a good read. I have seen some Mount fans berate Mount (even during the LK years) because they felt the score should be 70-3 instead of 56-3 ("if the second team didn't suck" or "if LK put as much time in with the backups" and my favorite "they have no heart that's why they quit in the 3rd quarter"). I remember when Mount played Cortland State in playoffs and Kmic got stopped on like his second or third carry at LOS, had a guy in front of me turn and say "What? Is it too cold for him?" and then yell "you ain't won anything yet!" I guess I understand that better than opposing fans being jackwagons while visiting another campus. I mean I have trashed my parents house (in HS) and my brother trashed my parents house - but when he threw a party and his friends were trashing my parents house, I had to kick the crap out of a few of them to clean it up cuz it isn't THEIR house. And don't misunderstand this post - this was not all the JCU fans. It was primarily the students from JCU. I went to an OSU/Michigan game (more pre-game at OSU, tickets were way too expensive) a few years back. And a buddy of mine (we were Michigan fans) was throwing trash in the lots, and on the lawns, and yelling at the OSU fans. I told him that if they came after him I wouldn't have his back. The reason: be respectful when in sombody else's house.

Hope JC students don't do that if they travel to UWW. Lots of uncharted areas in Wisconsin that will be frozen over til May....I'm just saying.

[boobyhasgameyo]

Does anybody know if JCU games typically are broadcast over the internet?  Or is the only chance of watching the game to be in person? 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Does anybody know if JCU games typically are broadcast over the internet?  Or is the only chance of watching the game to be in person?

Yes, they normally offer a videocast of their games.

[emma17]

Interesting bracket.  The days of region pairings are definitely long gone.

Bethel bracket seems to be the most balanced with Bethel, NCC, Platteville and Ill Wesleyan all being quality teams.   Not sure who to predict coming out of here.   Bethel has had the most impressive season, but NCC is no slouch and is playoff tested too.   

Whitewater bracket has the toughest #2 in Linfield, but absolutely nothing else.   Outside of those two, that bracket is WEAK and neither of them should brake a sweat getting to the regional final.

MHB bracket has 3 other good teams (Hobart, JCU and SJF) in it, but all 3 are on the opposite side from MHB.   I could easily see any of those 3 traveling to Belton in the regional final, but none of them beating MHB.

Mount's bracket could be entertaining in nothing else.   Wittenberg is Round 2 steam rolled the NCAC after the season opening loss against D1-AA Butler and gives us a chance to welcome back our dear friends from Springfield.   Johns Hopkins is the 2nd seed, but the NCAC didn't do them any favors with Wesley in Round 1.   J Hopkins was a very young team when they came to Mount last year and got blown off the field.   Does that experience help them get back to a regional final?  I think winner of JHU/Wesley comes to Alliance in Round 3.

HSC I'm going to have to disagree with you a bit here, maybe it's just semantics. 
At the end of the day, IMO, the question is, what bracket is the toughest to make it out of?     
-I agree that the Bethel bracket is the most balanced and I believe it contains 3 teams that I think could go 3 rounds deep (NCC, Bethel and UWP)- based on performance against other very good teams.  Sorry IWU, I'm not there with you.
-On the UWW bracket, it's probably semantics, but IMO, when 2 of the 8 teams in a bracket are ranked by ALL organizations in the Top 5 of the country, the word WEAK simply cannot be used.  I realize you're referring to the other 6 teams, but that's really not the point as one has to beat the other to move on.  In addition, I know you put a lot of weight into Franklin's loss to Blufton.  Perhaps it would be helpful if you reread many of the posts on this very OAC board that not only complemented Franklin time and again, but pointed to that game as support of Mt's strength.  It is a whole lot more likely that the Blufton game is a complete anomoly and not indicative of Franklin's ability to win some playoff games.  I'm not suggesting they should beat UWW, but I am suggesting if you put them against 7 of the 8 teams in the Mt. Union bracket they would give each of them a tough game.  Pacific Lutheran is not a Weak team, come on man.   
-MHB, IMO will have a tough go against JCU.  Like most I suppose, Hobart's 9-0 record doesn't give me a comfort level that they are capable of going 3 rounds. 
-The Mt bracket.  Johns Hopkins, the #2 and Hobart are in the same category- great record but who did they play.  Mt put 55 up on Johns Hopkins last year- that's the #2 team in the Mt bracket.   Perhaps Wesley will show they are back to national contender form.  My darkhorse for the Mt bracket is Wittenberg. 

But going into the tournament, you certainly can't look past the Mt bracket and refer to another bracket as capital weak, can you?

   

[pumkinattack]

I know this is a new year, but I thought Witt was going to be tough, but the same Hobart (9-0 against basically the same schedule) dispatched them easily last year.  They flipped the Wabash game, but otherwise I don't know what makes them so much better than they were last year (maybe top 15). 

I can't disagree about Hobart, but you could've said the same thing last year based on their regular season (or even the year before where they had one horrid fluky loss and then a first round close exit to a pretty tough Wesley team on the road).  I know how Hobart fared against STU last year in the final 8, but I also think they've (players and the staff) learned their lessons well over the past two years and there aren't a lot of FR/Sophs starting or playing major minutes (meaning most of these guys experienced 4 playoff games, two against top 4 teams over the past two years). 

If both get through, I really can't wait to see JCU/Hobart.  Tough matchup for Hobart who has perhaps the best DE in the country (Tyre Coleman) and also a great OLB (Devin Worthington), but small DB's and our ILB's are first year starters who sometimes don't cover the middle of the field perfectly, so a great passing team is much tougher than a rushing centric team. 

And for what it's worth, I think Hobart would've beaten JHU by 17-21pts last year as well.  Conference-wise, the LL and CC are pretty similar (both on the field and culturally/academically), but I think that's where the comparison stops (other than that Hobart and JHU are the only D3 schools to participate in D1 lacrosse as well). 

[ADL70]

Does anybody know if JCU games typically are broadcast over the internet?  Or is the only chance of watching the game to be in person?

Yes, they normally offer a videocast of their games.

Yes, but if I recall correctly you have to get approval from NCAA to broadcast playoffs.

[edward de vere]

PurpleSuit - You castigated HS coach with the following:  "you can hardly wait, or can't hardly wait?   not a Mount english major. . . I'm guessing"

And I'm guessing you are not/were not, either, else you would have written something like:  "You can hardly wait, or can't hardly wait?  Not a Mount English major . . . I'm guessing."

Notice your missing capitalization of three words that should have been capitalized.  Please also note that you neglected to place a period at the end of your final sentence.

(People in glass houses and all that, eh?)

[HScoach]

My God, I'm a freaking engineering!   Being able to spell is completely optional in my happy little world.  And I like it that way.

Not sure the proper English to say this, but I was honestly looking forward to hearing P-Suit's great analysis of how JCU was lucky to be within 30 points of Mount.   It's been a rough day at the office and I could use a little humor. 

[SaintsFAN]

PurpleSuit - You castigated HS coach with the following:  "you can hardly wait, or can't hardly wait?   not a Mount english major. . . I'm guessing"

And I'm guessing you are not/were not, either, else you would have written something like:  "You can hardly wait, or can't hardly wait?  Not a Mount English major . . . I'm guessing

No. I think he was admitting to not being an English Major and was stating that he was guessing.

[Dr. Acula]

As someone with a sister, father and grandfather that are engineers I can confirm with complete certainty that proper spelling is not required for the profession.  Some of my sister's papers that I proof read in college...yikes.  She had the last laugh when I was in Calculus though.  That was ugly.   

[SaintsFAN]

My God, I'm a freaking engineering!   Being able to spell is completely optional in my happy little world.  And I like it that way.

Not sure the proper English to say this, but I was honestly looking forward to hearing P-Suit's great analysis of how JCU was lucky to be within 30 points of Mount.   It's been a rough day at the office and I could use a little humor.

how can you tell if you've met an extroverted engineer??  If he looks at your shoes instead of his own when he's talking to you.