FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[Dr. Acula]

I realize it sucks for the alumni that aren't local, but until one of the rich ones wants to pony up the $ to sponsor the streaming broadcasts, I doubt we see it any time soon.    There's a bunch of construction on going that is paid for by wealthy donors, maybe we should be hitting them up for some internet productions?

If cost is an issue then what if they charged for the content?  If you told me they could provide Wabash quality video I'd gladly pay $50/yr for it.  I don't know how much the equipment costs, but I'd have to think even if there are only a few hundred idiots like me they'd be able to recover their costs.

I realize this is 2013 and the thought of paying for streaming video may not be agreeable to some, but if they said $10 to watch the JCU/Mount game I still think some people out of the area would have rationalized "It's about what I'd pay for a game ticket" and pulled the trigger.  I could be way off base on that though.     

[USee]

Wheaton was one of the early adoptors for streaming video. It has been huge. Has helped alums and recruiting while attendance is up over the same period. They are very budget constrained. If the University wants it, they can do it without any cost (see Wally's notes on Wabash). Alums would also pay for it. I think its foolish to not have it at a place like Mount. Its a huge advantage in branding as well.

#justdoitnoexcuses

[joelmama]

I find it very funny that the Wabash guys are the ones complaining the loudest about Mount not streaming online.    Not sure why this strikes me so oddly, but maybe it's because "Wabash always fights complains".

I'd like to watch the best team in the country play games. Sue me.

You might want to note that OSU and TSUN played "The Game" this week at the same time.  That will drop attendance by a lot.  I know me and a few friends did not go this week for that reason.   It is also the same reason Columbus area schools will many times schedule their games away from the OSU start times.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I realize it sucks for the alumni that aren't local, but until one of the rich ones wants to pony up the $ to sponsor the streaming broadcasts, I doubt we see it any time soon.    There's a bunch of construction on going that is paid for by wealthy donors, maybe we should be hitting them up for some internet productions?

I don't fit into that statement.  LOL

[Mr. Ypsi]

I find it very funny that the Wabash guys are the ones complaining the loudest about Mount not streaming online.    Not sure why this strikes me so oddly, but maybe it's because "Wabash always fights complains".

I'd like to watch the best team in the country play games. Sue me.

You might want to note that OSU and TSUN played "The Game" this week at the same time.  That will drop attendance by a lot.  I know me and a few friends did not go this week for that reason.   It is also the same reason Columbus area schools will many times schedule their games away from the OSU start times.

Boy, am I slow sometimes.   I've seen TSUN for years and only just now realized that is for 'that school up north'!  Now, if you were being fair, you would say Ohio vs. TSUN - we've got our ways of getting under your skin too!

Woody and Bo are spinning in their graves so fast, they could power a medium-sized city!  42-41!!   Woody might be sorta pleased with the 400 yards rushing (though he just died all over again over giving up 600+ yards), but Bo is spitting nails over 451 yards passing!

Disappointed in the final result, but perhaps the most exciting OSU/UM game EVER!

[sigma one]

A couple of comments on the lack of video.
     I've read about costs.  Heck, many schools are now providing a live stream, not all of them "rich."
    The point about far-away alums and locals as the focus is fine, but there are a lot of other people (relatively speaking) who want to see Mount.  Why wouldn't the Mt. Union administration want to show off their success to people in Oregon or Georgia?
    (I've posted this elsewhere)    As odd as it might seem, The NCAA requires that schools who want to host a playoff game fill out a pretty extensive form.  Hosting is not automatic.  If the school does not submit a form, the NCAA assumes they do not want to host, for whatever reason.  (I don't know of any case where a school has requested to host and been denied, particularly if they are a high seed--whatever that now means to the NCAA.  I also don't know how the NCAA would react, beyond reminding the school that it has not yet applied, if a "high seed" did not fill out the form.)  The form includes information on press box facilities, stadium seating, local hotels/motels, nearby restaurants, etc.  And the school has to do it for every round in advance of the beginning of the playoffs.  Yes, the schools have to APPLY to host games round by round.  One would think that part of the requirement in this time of easy technology might be the ability to provide video, if for no other reason than for the NCAA to showcase their product.  But the NCAA does not stipulate video capability as part of their equation.  I believe that the Wittenberg/Mt. Union game was the only one not to have video last weekend. 
     Cutting through all the official talk and speculation about why Mount does not do video, I can think of only two really legitimate reasons.  One is if an advertising or sponsorship contract says no video (possible, if unfortunate).  The other is if someone believes that video would be glaringly harmful to attendance.  From Mt. Union's perspective, could they believe their long success has jaded fans so much that they assume the team will win, so why show up to see another lopsided game when one could stay home and watch, or check in occasionally?  This one makes some warped sense to me--however, also unfortunate if that is the case.  By the way, I think the NCAA requires an accounting of playoff gate receipts; these are sent to the NCAA minus expenses.  If expenses exceed revenues, the NCAA sends the school a check for the difference.  The visiting school also keeps an accounting of expenses and is reimbursed (certain maximums apply).   This is one reason the NCAA tells schools the minimum they can charge for admission to a playoff game.  Some schools apparently charge more.  Also, the NCAA sends the school a certain number of commerative items--shirts, hats, etc--that the school can sell.  The school then sends the revenue to the NCAA, as well as the leftover items.  Whether the expense of video is included in the NCAA equation, I don't know.
     If this has changed in recent years, someone please correct me. 
         

[edward de vere]

I wonder how long it's been since Larry Kehres received this much criticism from so many people.

If ever.

[wesleydad]

hey mount guys, be seeing you again this weekend.  panchos at 10 so I am told.  hope to see as many of you there or at the game as I can.  sorry cant make the wings on friday night.  weather looks iffy on friday for a drive across pa, but early sat morning looks good to go.  will be bringing the warm clothing since below 30 is not my kind of weather.  see you saturday.

[Dr. Acula]

Wesley has lost 12 starters to season ending injuries this year?  12?!  Is that right wesleydad?? 

[Dr. Acula]

Over the last 5 games BJ Mitchell has averaged 149 yds/gm.  That's against Berg, BW, JCU, W&J and Witt. Not too bad. 

[mr_mom]

Spreads for the Third Round of the Post-Season OAC Pick-Em are posted.

[Insert something witty here]

Please get your picks in before Noon Saturday.

[ExTartanPlayer]

I realize it sucks for the alumni that aren't local, but until one of the rich ones wants to pony up the $ to sponsor the streaming broadcasts, I doubt we see it any time soon.    There's a bunch of construction on going that is paid for by wealthy donors, maybe we should be hitting them up for some internet productions?

If cost is an issue then what if they charged for the content?  If you told me they could provide Wabash quality video I'd gladly pay $50/yr for it.  I don't know how much the equipment costs, but I'd have to think even if there are only a few hundred idiots like me they'd be able to recover their costs.

I realize this is 2013 and the thought of paying for streaming video may not be agreeable to some, but if they said $10 to watch the JCU/Mount game I still think some people out of the area would have rationalized "It's about what I'd pay for a game ticket" and pulled the trigger.  I could be way off base on that though.   

I think this is accurate.  I was busy with family commitments during the Mount/JCU game but had I been available, I probably would have been willing to pay a few bucks to watch it.  10 seems high but I may have bit the bullet and done it ($2.99 or $3.99 and that jumps to "Yes, I definitely would have paid to watch a live stream"); and I have no connection to either school, I'm just a random fan from out of the area that loves good D3 football.

[Jonny Utah]

I realize it sucks for the alumni that aren't local, but until one of the rich ones wants to pony up the $ to sponsor the streaming broadcasts, I doubt we see it any time soon.    There's a bunch of construction on going that is paid for by wealthy donors, maybe we should be hitting them up for some internet productions?

If cost is an issue then what if they charged for the content?  If you told me they could provide Wabash quality video I'd gladly pay $50/yr for it.  I don't know how much the equipment costs, but I'd have to think even if there are only a few hundred idiots like me they'd be able to recover their costs.

I realize this is 2013 and the thought of paying for streaming video may not be agreeable to some, but if they said $10 to watch the JCU/Mount game I still think some people out of the area would have rationalized "It's about what I'd pay for a game ticket" and pulled the trigger.  I could be way off base on that though.   

I think this is accurate.  I was busy with family commitments during the Mount/JCU game but had I been available, I probably would have been willing to pay a few bucks to watch it.  10 seems high but I may have bit the bullet and done it ($2.99 or $3.99 and that jumps to "Yes, I definitely would have paid to watch a live stream"); and I have no connection to either school, I'm just a random fan from out of the area that loves good D3 football.

A few years back the Patriots were playing at the Chargers in an NFL playoff game.  The San Diego Chargers did not allow anyone with a zip code outside California order tickets online, as they were having trouble selling some tickets and/or a lot of season ticket holders were looking to cash in on their tickets.  The reasoning was to ensure  that the Chargers had a home field advantage (having more fans in the stadium).

Although it is probably a long shot and difficult to do, you wonder if they could stream the game and have those outside Ohio be able to purchase the game online, and those inside Ohio have to go to the game.

It is just a shame that alumni from across the country have to suffer because of the reasons listed above.  I wouldn't be happy anyway. 

I can't say I totally disagree with the reasoning behind the decision and explanation, but some sort of middle ground should be sought for those who live far away.

[MUC80]

The other is if someone believes that video would be glaringly harmful to attendance.  From Mt. Union's perspective, could they believe their long success has jaded fans so much that they assume the team will win, so why show up to see another lopsided game when one could stay home and watch, or check in occasionally?  This one makes some warped sense to me--however, also unfortunate if that is the case.       

I think this is the same logic as the "local blackout" rule they have in the NFL (is that still in place?). If the capability to block streaming video to those within x miles of the game was possible, then I would think that it may be more likely that more streaming would take place.

Living in Columbus, Ohio with lots of family commitments on the weekends, it is very difficult for me to get to a game. However, I would gladly pay a per view or per season subscription to watch online. I listen to the audio streams for many games and usually all of the playoff games.

[Jacket_Backer]

Check out https://www.boxcast.com. It's a pretty cool little startup company in the Cleveland area that seems to solve many of the problems with live streaming games to the masses.  It was actually started by a few students out of Case and it's only $300 for one of these little streaming boxes (I don't think that is too big of an investment for UMU to make).  I noticed that this is what BW used in its live stream of the game against the 'berg.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/06/boxcast_hopes_to_become_the_ki.html