FB: Ohio Athletic Conference

[02 Warhawk]

  As you referenced in your post many on the outside looking in have high expectations of Mount Union or should we say fear that has made many wet down their leg.  You also use the reference to word dynasty while those on the INSIDE prefer to reference to The Machine. 

No offense intended but I think it hilariously funny that you actually might think UMU is that frightening.

I find it more hilarious that you think Mount isn't frightening.  Its not like the Raiders didn't make the playoffs and lost to some scrub team from NY last year.  Mount might have played some close games score-wise in 2013 but you're also looking at the most battle tested Mount team in a while.  They have shown the ability to keep composure and pull out tight games.  Are they the best Mount team? Probably not, but they are good enough to win the NC.  I'd be more frightened about UMHB getting the tapes of the multiple losses UWW had in one season, I wonder what that is like, than the real D3 dynasty having a couple of close games.  No offense intended

Let them get tapes and game plan from last year's team...not sure how much good that'll do them in the game tomorrow against this year's team.

[PurpleSuit]

  As you referenced in your post many on the outside looking in have high expectations of Mount Union or should we say fear that has made many wet down their leg.  You also use the reference to word dynasty while those on the INSIDE prefer to reference to The Machine. 

No offense intended but I think it hilariously funny that you actually might think UMU is that frightening.

I find it more hilarious that you think Mount isn't frightening.  Its not like the Raiders didn't make the playoffs and lost to some scrub team from NY last year.  Mount might have played some close games score-wise in 2013 but you're also looking at the most battle tested Mount team in a while.  They have shown the ability to keep composure and pull out tight games.  Are they the best Mount team? Probably not, but they are good enough to win the NC.  I'd be more frightened about UMHB getting the tapes of the multiple losses UWW had in one season, I wonder what that is like, than the real D3 dynasty having a couple of close games.  No offense intended

Let them get tapes and game plan from last year's team...not sure how much good that'll do them in the game tomorrow against this year's team.

relax my man, the game isn't tomorrow.  I know its a stressful time of year, but UWW will play on Sat.  I would think the opponent would study a multiple loss team, I might be wrong since I can't remember when Mount lost 2+ games.  It's a weird feeling I'm sure, but having that on tape is a bit much.  Has the UWW personnel changed that much in a year? It probably won't matter but it is an interesting question.

[02 Warhawk]

  As you referenced in your post many on the outside looking in have high expectations of Mount Union or should we say fear that has made many wet down their leg.  You also use the reference to word dynasty while those on the INSIDE prefer to reference to The Machine. 

No offense intended but I think it hilariously funny that you actually might think UMU is that frightening.

I find it more hilarious that you think Mount isn't frightening.  Its not like the Raiders didn't make the playoffs and lost to some scrub team from NY last year.  Mount might have played some close games score-wise in 2013 but you're also looking at the most battle tested Mount team in a while.  They have shown the ability to keep composure and pull out tight games.  Are they the best Mount team? Probably not, but they are good enough to win the NC.  I'd be more frightened about UMHB getting the tapes of the multiple losses UWW had in one season, I wonder what that is like, than the real D3 dynasty having a couple of close games.  No offense intended

Let them get tapes and game plan from last year's team...not sure how much good that'll do them in the game tomorrow against this year's team.

relax my man, the game isn't tomorrow.  I know its a stressful time of year, but UWW will play on Sat.  I would think the opponent would study a multiple loss team, I might be wrong since I can't remember when Mount lost 2+ games.  It's a weird feeling I'm sure, but having that on tape is a bit much. Has the UWW personnel changed that much in a year? It probably won't matter but it is an interesting question.

Yes indeed. New offensive philosophy. New offensive coordinator. New O-line coach. New WR coach. New RB coach, New offensive line. New QB. New RBs.

Needless to say there was a huge amount of change on the offense from 2012 to 2013. No change needed on the defense....that wasn't an issue last year.

That multiple-loss team you enjoy referring to isn't really relevant to this year's team. I believe MHB is smart enough to realize that.

[Desertraider]

  As you referenced in your post many on the outside looking in have high expectations of Mount Union or should we say fear that has made many wet down their leg.  You also use the reference to word dynasty while those on the INSIDE prefer to reference to The Machine. 

No offense intended but I think it hilariously funny that you actually might think UMU is that frightening.

I find it more hilarious that you think Mount isn't frightening.  Its not like the Raiders didn't make the playoffs and lost to some scrub team from NY last year.  Mount might have played some close games score-wise in 2013 but you're also looking at the most battle tested Mount team in a while.  They have shown the ability to keep composure and pull out tight games.  Are they the best Mount team? Probably not, but they are good enough to win the NC.  I'd be more frightened about UMHB getting the tapes of the multiple losses UWW had in one season, I wonder what that is like, than the real D3 dynasty having a couple of close games.  No offense intended

Let them get tapes and game plan from last year's team...not sure how much good that'll do them in the game tomorrow against this year's team.

relax my man, the game isn't tomorrow.  I know its a stressful time of year, but UWW will play on Sat.  I would think the opponent would study a multiple loss team, I might be wrong since I can't remember when Mount lost 2+ games.  It's a weird feeling I'm sure, but having that on tape is a bit much.  Has the UWW personnel changed that much in a year? It probably won't matter but it is an interesting question.

The last time Mount lost 2 games in a season was 1994 (10-2, 8-1 OAC). The last 2 loss team in conference was 1988 5-2-1 and that team was also the last to lose more than 2 games in a season (6-3-1).

[Desertraider]

BTW - any idea how Mount's JV squad did this year? The website has a link for JV but does not post the results. Come-on Man! If you're gonna post the schedule - post the scores!

[ExTartanPlayer]

BTW - any idea how Mount's JV squad did this year? The website has a link for JV but does not post the results. Come-on Man! If you're gonna post the schedule - post the scores!

This is purely anecdotal and from a program that did not play as long of a JV schedule, but when I was at CMU, the 2-3 yearly JV games were much more like scrimmages than actual games.  I guess you could have figured a final score but it was really just a way to get the younger kids some plays.

[Dr. Acula]

The Mount JV games were much more like real games than scrimmages.  I had to work them all so I was one of the poor souls who had to watch every minute of them.  They generally played 8 or so games usually against Ashland, BW, JCU, W&J, etc.  Ric used to post the scores on his old site.  All I remember is they went years and years without losing a JV game either.

[jaypeter]

Just made my decision to head up to Belton, TX on Saturday to catch the game there.  Will be sporting my Mount Union colors but suspect they'll blend in a bit.  Hoping to bump into some tailgating and listen to the UMU-NCC game on my phone while driving/visiting.

[emma17]

  As you referenced in your post many on the outside looking in have high expectations of Mount Union or should we say fear that has made many wet down their leg.  You also use the reference to word dynasty while those on the INSIDE prefer to reference to The Machine. 

No offense intended but I think it hilariously funny that you actually might think UMU is that frightening.

I find it more hilarious that you think Mount isn't frightening.  Its not like the Raiders didn't make the playoffs and lost to some scrub team from NY last year.  Mount might have played some close games score-wise in 2013 but you're also looking at the most battle tested Mount team in a while.  They have shown the ability to keep composure and pull out tight games.  Are they the best Mount team? Probably not, but they are good enough to win the NC.  I'd be more frightened about UMHB getting the tapes of the multiple losses UWW had in one season, I wonder what that is like, than the real D3 dynasty having a couple of close games.  No offense intended

I have to admit that, while at work, if I see that Purple Suit has added to the OAC thread, I typically look it up.......he's entertaining.  Sometimes a little over the top, but entertaining.

I do the same.  His schtick has got me hooked.  Whatever it is Suit is going to post, for the most part we know it will trigger emotions and generate conversation.

I don't argue the wetting the leg theory.  Obviously the choice of words has a tendency to call into question a man's fortitude.  But hey, I was figuratively wetting my leg the first time I had to present to a group of adults.  Now that I've done it a few times, it's like UWW facing Mt, ain't no thing anymore. 

[raiderguy]

Tre Jones second team all region defense.?  It seems to me he should have made the all OFFENSIVE TEAM considering his performance against Wesley and before.  The man has never seen a pass except as it lands in the opposing players hands. Before you mention four interceptions I subscribe to the "a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and them"  Don't get me wrong I am  behind the Raiders 100% but a back fumbles a ball and he may never see the field again.....how about someone who can't seem to prevent big completion after big completion. I'm just saying.

Earlier some one mentioned the team yelling "ball " when a pass is in the air... might help out. It sure is better than hearing touchdown from the other sidelines.

Spoke recently with a college (D1FCS) db coach about yelling "Ball".  He doesn't believe in that practice because once the DB turns to look for the ball, he slows down and on a deep ball the WR runs by him for the possible catch/long gain.

His philosophy was for the DB to keep running with the WR, watching the eyes and making a play once the WR puts his hands up to catch it.  I don't know how this affects play on back shoulder throws though.

While I tend to agree about the losing touch with the receiver idea, I also think if they do take that look the number of INT's would increase and some additional passes would be defensed. It also takes out the pass interference penalty that so many refs love to call. What can it hurt in this case he is giving up a ton of completions the way it is now. Something needs to change IMHO. Don't get me wrong I wish it wasn't so but the competition is going to continue to take what we give them. I still can't believe what I witnessed on Saturday.

No pressure.

No running game.

No problem.....59pts.

Thank goodness for the first quarter!

[robertgoulet]

If you have the time look at NCC games stats vs Wheaton and Elmhurst on their site.  Check out the opp. rushing yds and their passing stats.  Both games were 14-14 at half and both games NCC scored 14 in 3rd to zero for their opp.  The Elmhurst game was QB for NCC poorest game.  What I took from this was neither opp. could throw the ball at all.  HOW ABOUT 27 YDS OF PASSING IN ONE GAME.  Yet both ran the ball decent, one over 200 yds.   If I am a fan of NCC I have to be worried can I score enough to win.  NCC ran for over 200yds. in one game and 137 in the other.   Wheaton ran for over 200 yds. and passed for only 74 yds.  Elmhurst ran for 178 yds.  So can NCC run the ball, and if they can't will they be as effective as Wesley being one dimensional.  NCC has lost to Capital in their playoff past two times.  NCC has the glamor and glitz, do they have the guns for 60 mins.  I see both def. has having trouble.  I see NCC however having more trouble, Mount has seen some great passers and more quality teams then NCC.  Mount will be the best by far of any off. the NCC def. has faced all year.  Hang on to your hats and buckle up.

I am an NC fan and I am always worried if we can score enough to win.   With that said, if you google North Central football vs [          ] 2013, you will find the 5 minute or so highlight of each game which is produced very professionally.  It will give you a real sense of the Cardinal season.  And, it gives some insight to the games like the Elmhurst game which had a couple of real strange plays in the 1st half followed by an hour and a half storm delay in which there was so much water that the artificial turf began to buckle.  As far as running on NC, look at the Wheaton highlights.  Wheaton coach Mike Swider says in his post game comments that the plan was to run the ball and control the clock since they couldn't match up with NC's receivers.  The point being that the game plan all year against NC has been to pound the ball, no big secret. 

As far as Capital, I believe those games were in 2005 and 2006, so I'm not sure what we can take away from them.  More recently, we played Ohio Northern both in the playoffs and in a home and away nonconference series, I believe the last game being in 2010, so the seniors were around for one of those games.

With all that said, this is a real step up in class for the Cards, we shall see how they handle it.

I thought this was in the CCIW thread, but since it's not I'll respond here: I do appreciate that NCC's highlight videos include opponents highlights as well. It doesn't seem that many schools (Bethel, for instance) do this.

[pradierguy]

  As you referenced in your post many on the outside looking in have high expectations of Mount Union or should we say fear that has made many wet down their leg.  You also use the reference to word dynasty while those on the INSIDE prefer to reference to The Machine. 

No offense intended but I think it hilariously funny that you actually might think UMU is that frightening.

I find it more hilarious that you think Mount isn't frightening.  Its not like the Raiders didn't make the playoffs and lost to some scrub team from NY last year.  Mount might have played some close games score-wise in 2013 but you're also looking at the most battle tested Mount team in a while.  They have shown the ability to keep composure and pull out tight games.  Are they the best Mount team? Probably not, but they are good enough to win the NC.  I'd be more frightened about UMHB getting the tapes of the multiple losses UWW had in one season, I wonder what that is like, than the real D3 dynasty having a couple of close games.  No offense intended

I have to admit that, while at work, if I see that Purple Suit has added to the OAC thread, I typically look it up.......he's entertaining.  Sometimes a little over the top, but entertaining.

I do the same.  His schtick has got me hooked.  Whatever it is Suit is going to post, for the most part we know it will trigger emotions and generate conversation.

I don't argue the wetting the leg theory.  Obviously the choice of words has a tendency to call into question a man's fortitude.  But hey, I was figuratively wetting my leg the first time I had to present to a group of adults.  Now that I've done it a few times, it's like UWW facing Mt, ain't no thing anymore.

And to top it all off, he is usually right, as in this specific conversation.

[Gregory Sager]

He's not as right as you think he is, pradierguy. As 02 Warhawk explained, using tapes of last year's UWW games wouldn't really be useful for UMHB or any other Warhawks opponent, as the UWW coaches, players, and schemes have changed significantly from 2012 to 2013. Plus, as emma17 pointed out, UWW seems to have developed an immunity to the whole wetting-the-leg thing when it comes to playing Mt. Union.

I get that Purple Suit basically threw in all that last-year's-tapes stuff as a gibe at UWW, but in terms of actual football-specific content he was effectively rebutted by 02 Warhawk.

[Craft_Beermeister]

For what it is worth.

@JeffZupReview: Mount Union has never played North Central. @purpleraiders are 31-1 vs first-time opp in playoffs since 1993. Avg. score is 46-13

[HScoach]

The 1 being MHB in '04